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Mannu
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posted June 24, 2007 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great article!!

I too agree, that "The Secret" is promoting materialism. Theres nothing wrong in materialism. It should come to you sooner or later. But without the heavenly treasure one is still left incomplete/insatiable.

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Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all other things will be added on to you.

Forgive me if I misquoted great ones.
That is the teaching that won't change no matter what. Self inquire and realize who you are. That is the greatest treasure anyone can have.

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26taurus
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posted June 24, 2007 12:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nicely said, Dulce Luna (fellow Virgo Mooner )
..and Mannu.
"Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all other things will be added unto you."

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26taurus
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posted June 24, 2007 01:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Seek ye first the Kingdom of God

Blessed are all who seek after God with all their hearts, minds and souls.
For they shall find Him and He shall be their God and they shall be His chosen people.

God rewards those who diligently seek Him by an increase in Heavenly virtue, wisdom and power and grants to them eternal and everlasting life filled with glory.

Jesus said, "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His justice and all these things (the things of God) shall be given you."

Paul said, "One man sows and another waters but God grants the increase."

All increase in Heavenly things are born of God, not by the will of man nor by the efforts of man, but of God.

Brethren, if you lack any good thing seek God and there you will find it."

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 24, 2007 03:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what did you guys think of my story of when I was a child? Weired, huh?

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26taurus
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posted June 24, 2007 04:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice story LTT!

...Maybe out of children's own innocence and purity, their wishes come true more readily and easily. The faith & trust is there naturally.

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trillian
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posted June 24, 2007 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Satan doesn't sound so bad. Maybe s/he's been getting a bad rap all these years.


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fayte.m
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posted June 24, 2007 08:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LTT
Your caterpillar, was, I surmise, infested with a beneficial parasite.
I too have long been interested in various species of Lepidoptera and Coleoptera. http://uanews.org/cgi-bin/WebObjects/UANews.woa/29/wa/CALSArticle?ArticleID=11447

Do you happen to know what species he was?

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Dulce Luna
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posted June 24, 2007 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks 26Taurus!

While I don't think that wanting material things is bad, pure materialism will not make one happy. I see the movie trying to emphasize that it will.

I also liked Mannu's quote

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Aselzion
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posted June 24, 2007 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings...

Trillian... long time no see! How are you? How is Ms. FishKitten, I have been unable to reach her via e-mail. Hoping all is well with BOTH of you!!

The Secret is that there is NO SECRET! We can learn what we need to (and we DO) when we are ready for the info. As with Ramtha and others of this ilk... They make their money and run, laughing all the way to the bank! Then they go someplace where no one has ever heard from them, and vacation for the rest of their lives.

My opinion, as ever!

Blessings...

A

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trillian
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posted June 24, 2007 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aselzion I am well! It is so wonderful to see you, and I hope life is abundant for you. Do you still have my email? Drop me a line, and I'll forward your current address on to FishKitten. I think trillian@linda-goodman.com still works, if you don't have my regular addy. If not, just let me know. We'll work it out.

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26taurus
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posted June 24, 2007 04:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps, trillian!

DL,

Great opinion, A.

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 24, 2007 05:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fayte

Wow, I wasn't aware of this.

I've been looking at species of caterpillar but I just can't find the exact one. He/she had stripes going down the body (not across) which as I remember were kind of candy coloured, and was found in a garden by the school playground on a cabbage patch....the ones I couldn't catch. The ones I'd seen near my own garden looked completely different. I saw something online about wasp parasites, so perhaps this is what it was....

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 24, 2007 05:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Universe.....bring me a band for me to sing in!!!

I don't think material things are bad. I believe in balance. I'm still trying to solve all these riddles in my head....however, right now I'm tired and going to bed!

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26taurus
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posted June 25, 2007 12:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really not trying to bash "The Secret" here
but i did just run across this ...

The Deeper Secret Part I http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=312&Itemid=70

Part II http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=313&Itemid=70

III http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=315&Itemid=70

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26taurus
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posted June 25, 2007 01:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blame yourself if you have no branches or leaves; do not accuse the sun of partiality.

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26taurus
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posted June 25, 2007 01:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"THE PROSTITUTE

One choice is to approach your Higher Self as if it were a prostitute. “This is what you’re going to do for me,” you say. “I ask you for this and you will give it to me. I want a big mansion, I want a BMW, I want a basic living budget of 50 thousand dollars a month. I want, I want, I want, I want.” This is precisely what you learn in “The Secret”… with seemingly endless repetition!

Sure enough, you CAN use the “Law of Attraction” and get this “cosmic welfare system” to work. You can approach your Higher Self like a ***** , tell her what you want her to do, how you want her to lie there, how much to undress, what you’re willing to pay, how long you want it to take, and what you’re going to do after you’re finished with her. You may feel you’ve found a great Secret… THE Secret. And it may work… for a while.

Some people become high priests of this philosophy — and charge exorbitant fees to teach it to others. People are inspired by their own greed, thinking they will make similar amounts of money, and thus pay these speakers the fees they ask. There is a deep belief in the human psyche that the more you pay for something, the more it is worth. Seems to make sense, right? Thus, the speakers make substantial profits from their followers, and appear to be living proof that the philosophy works.

If you are NOT willing to pay the exorbitant fees, then like any good cult, the devotees will accuse you of having “issues with prosperity and abundance”. In fact, I’ve had MULTIPLE, very sad encounters where people defend this film, and its philosophy, with all the vigor of members of a fundamentalist religion. They become angry… even exasperated… that I would dare to say the film presents a corrupted message.

Then they automatically assume they are better or more evolved than I am, because I’m not “with it”. They tell me that I am the one who has the problem, because I am not “claiming my abundance.”

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"The Secret" teaches you to approach your Higher Self and tell it what you want, how you want it, where you want it, how much you're willing to pay for it and what you expect to do when it's over.

This philosophy elevates the 'ego,' and it's own demands, to a Godlike level… as if you should go forth and seek whatever your heart desires, no matter how big the price tag, because the Universe is basically built to satisfy you… like a giant "cosmic gumball machine".

If the world's most powerful people are ALREADY using this Secret, so the philosophy goes, then why shouldn't you? The problem, as we explained in Part One, is that the world's most powerful people are doing a lot more than sitting and meditating for prosperity… they are killing, starving and exploiting untold numbers of people to maintain their vast riches.

THE MAIDEN

The opposite approach — that of the positive path — is to approach your Higher Self as if it were a maiden.

Let's say you're the guy, and you want to 'get lucky'. With the prostitute you go, pay the fee, and get exactly what you want from her… but since it is illegal, you may end up getting hit with a few arrows as well.

If you want to connect with the maiden, it's not so simple. You have to LISTEN to her.

You have to dance with her… explore her needs… find out what she wants… and be willing to move with her own free will, so that the two of you can COMBINE your visions into a MUTUAL view of what you want. Only then do you consummate the relationship.

THE HIGHER SELF IS NOT THE EGO

The problem with philosophies like those in "The Secret" is they assume the 'ego' IS the Higher Self. There is no other authority to look to. You know what you want, and therefore that is what God wants. End of story!

This error in judgment is a classic mistake. This materialistic oversight is an experience that we are all intended to have, as it is written into the mind of the Galaxy. It is a growth experience we ALL must go through.

The Secret is at least teaching people to get to the point where they are aware of their power, and even though it nudges you towards the negative, I know for a fact that this film has had a positive impact on many people… namely because they read their pre-existing positive biases into it, though messages of service-to-others are strongly diminished, if not nearly eliminated in the actual finished product.

As you can see from reading my own life story, in "The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce?" and throughout this Divine Cosmos website, the Higher Self is far from a passive participant in your life. What most people think of as the 'self' is a vastly insufficient explanation of their true identity.

To really 'get' what spirituality is about, part of that awakening is realizing that all time is ultimately simultaneous. Your brief lifespan on Earth in this incarnation is but a microsecond in your overall cosmic evolution. You have multiple incarnations, with very definite lessons to learn, and if you don't 'get it' in one lifetime, then you'll come back and repeat the class in future lifetimes, again and again, until the truth sinks in."

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 25, 2007 06:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW

WOW, WOW, WOW!

I don't think it could have been said better!

I cannot thank you enough. Thank you 26T.....So much. I feel as if a fog has been lifted

It feels as though I am beginning to see......'On a Clear Day' (The title of one of Linda's favorite songs, not heard it yet though)

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26taurus
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posted June 25, 2007 03:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are very sweet, LTT.
I enjoy reading you.

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 25, 2007 04:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are too kind

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adrienne
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posted June 25, 2007 06:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The problem, as we explained in Part One, is that the world's most powerful people are doing a lot more than sitting and meditating for prosperity… they are killing, starving and exploiting untold numbers of people to maintain their vast riches."

(how do I do the thing with the quotes where it just makes lines above and below the quote??? Why can everyone do this but me???)

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Dulce Luna
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posted June 25, 2007 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome article, 26Taurus!

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Aen
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posted June 26, 2007 08:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
adrienne

quote:
(how do I do the thing with the quotes where it just makes lines above and below the quote??? Why can everyone do this but me???)

Like that?

[ quote]text[ /quote] but WITHOUT space in bracets. That link http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/ubbcode.html will help and this http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/smilies.html too

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Twinkle Stars
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posted June 26, 2007 11:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it's a dark one. This movie helped me alot. Everyone I know who has watched it has their life changed for good.

Believe in yourself.

Stop beleiving in the fake God Karma crap.

God or whoever the hell it is put us in the world to deal with bull crap then they better freakin reward us.

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mezzoelf1
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posted June 26, 2007 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mezzoelf1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
frankly I'm suspicious of ANYTHING that gets the sort of people who watch Oprah excited. Please! You American's are soooooo gullible....

Its simple, love others, be good and do what you can to prevent the suffering and pain of others/the Earth and so on.

Its not hard, its not mean,its not a 'tease' its just good, honest love. if there is nothing at the end at least we've done our best to make sure this one chance we have is the best and most rewarding it can be.

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mezzoelf1
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posted June 26, 2007 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mezzoelf1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
frankly I'm suspicious of ANYTHING that gets the sort of people who watch Oprah excited. Please! You American's are soooooo gullible....

Its simple, love others, be good and do what you can to prevent the suffering and pain of others/the Earth and so on.

Its not hard, its not mean,its not a 'tease' its just good, honest love. if there is nothing at the end at least we've done our best to make sure this one chance we have is the best and most rewarding it can be.

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