posted December 30, 2010 07:45 AM            

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[Lucifer's Redemption???

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What's that?

I wanna know because I've been hearing something quite like that for some time on the internet buzz

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अस्तो मा सद् गमय |
तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय |
मृत्योन् मा अमृतं गमय् ||
ॐ शांति शांति शांति

posted December 30, 2010 08:13 AM            

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अस्तो मा सद् गमय |
तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय |
मृत्योन् मा अमृतं गमय् ||
ॐ शांति शांति शांति

posted December 30, 2010 08:56 AM            

He removed the blog claiming ******** "National Security Reasons". The jest of the story can be picked up here...
http://www.savethemales.ca/playboy_lucifer_will_launch_be.html

Basically, he was buttfraked by some dude claiming to be Lucifer incarnate... and thus had to retract his whole blog to hide his own idiocy

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Here is the Blog itself in PDF.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19388401/Supriem-Rockefeller-Messiah-or-Antichrist-by-Wes-Penre

posted December 30, 2010 09:13 PM            

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Originally posted by RiverDawg47:
The hollow earth thing kinda made me smile, he was making a joke, like if someone asked if the sky was blue... "hang on, lemme look out the window... yup." I think he was inferring that he was currently underground...

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posted December 30, 2010 10:18 PM            

The fact that he only sees his family and he has an internet connection is an indication that he's underground. Like I said before though, it doesn't make sense. How would you make houses in a hollow earth? You can't sit around the inside rim, the gravitational force would be all wonky, not even considering what the orbit and axis wobble does. And if the gravity is weak like some theories say, floating around isn't exactly a comfortable way to live.

posted December 31, 2010 12:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Cancer/Scorpio729:
Haha, I see what you mean RiverDawg, I didn't notice that before (I'm stupid with jokes), he is kinda funny in places.

The fact that he only sees his family and he has an internet connection is an indication that he's underground. Like I said before though, it doesn't make sense. How would you make houses in a hollow earth? You can't sit around the inside rim, the gravitational force would be all wonky, not even considering what the orbit and axis wobble does. And if the gravity is weak like some theories say, floating around isn't exactly a comfortable way to live.

Did they dig barracks in the ground? How did they survive all this time down there without light?

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posted December 31, 2010 01:02 AM            

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Cancer/Scorpio, I think the best way to tackle those questions is to simply suspend all belief systems as you know them and think Star Wars type stuff, then it becomes possible and makes perfect sense... of course!

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RiverDawg you genius you

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maybe they generate their own light?

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posted December 31, 2010 07:12 AM            

So I don't get it, not many here questioning this persons validity. You really buying what they are selling?

Lets just break down the basic premise of what this insidious person is saying.

HH says we are slaves on this planet, slaves to an angry jealous god called Yahweh.
Our only hope of ever evolving, is through HH & his families good graces as he is literally Lucifer incarnate.
(Millions of little Lucifer's I might add) and is here to save and free us all as he was sent by
the Galactic Council of Elders from inside Saturn.

HH & his extended family from undisclosed secret (omgs so special) bloodline are the chosen ones.
Galactic volunteers and there mission is simple, be absolutely as evil/negative as possible and all
of the silly earth monkeys will start evolving... and when they have sufficiently cultivated there energy enough
and evolved to a reasonable level, its Harrrrrrrrrrrvessttt Time!!

Here is something I spotted that you may have seen as insignificant but note him differentiating his planet/system origins from us. Direct Quote: YOUR PLANET abides by the laws of the Creation of your Galactic Logos. The Galaxy runs on Cycles of time, known as the Precession of the Equinoxes. As I said, seek the Mayan Calendar for a deeper insight as to how the Galaxy runs (it is highly accurate), but for the purpose of this discourse, I will give a brief overview. The Maya use an astrological cycle called the "Precession of the Equinoxes". This is a 26,000 year cycle in which Earth transits through each of the 12 signs of the zodiac for about 2,152 years each. Each of these astrological ages represents one month of the grand Cosmic Year. This "Mayan" cycle also corresponds to a 26,000 year relationship of the Sun (Solar Logos) orbiting Alcyone, the central star of OUR Seven Sisters Pleiades constellation.

YOUR Planet... OUR Seven Seven Sisters Pleiades constellation!!???

If you look around LL you will find many threads on our insidious friends the P, and many alternative theories posted as to who and what they truly are. But sure as hell dont take my word for it. Look to the works of Barbara Marciniak a bona fide Pleiadian lover/channeller. Check out her audio book on youtube and note the tone of the language used, very very similar and just as pretentious as this jack ass here. Earth: Pleiadian Keys to the Living Library - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-zWwVgq2SY

Look into all of the Yahweh, Satan, Samuel, Lord Baal & many other Lord of The Harvest variations & the Pleiadian connections.

Now ofc there is truth among the lies... How else can they rope a person into such crap! They give you some great stuff that makes you go omg... This resonates with me, feels so right! I've be saying this for years...!! It must be true. So by association with one set of good information you then start to tie knots to all this other garbage. Pretty soon you wondering if your family are secretly members of the Illuminati and that if you should finally begin your sacred mission to free humanity. -giggles-

I'm just BARELY scratching the surface when it comes to the kinda garbage this person is regurgitating here.

Ill be back with LL links to threads when I find them....

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Here are some.

The Pleiades http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002287.html

~Creator god-faux gods-and humans-a short story~ http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000277.html

~RETHINKING THE BIBLE~ http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000005.html

'Lucifer' http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000010.html

Lucifer and his fallen angels http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000214.html

posted December 31, 2010 09:31 AM            

I have even more harsh words to say about those pompous delusional jerks than you have said.
Good thing for them that I am not God, because otherwise I'd boot that Mr.Lucifer wannabe and Mr.H.Hand and the Splinters back to the stone age or erase them all totally off the time line.
They must be a rather revolting batch of contaminated souls to have been unpalatable even to the soul eaters.
Or were not destroyed because they were/are being used to dupe the naive and gullible.
Many such minions were/are used to keep humankind from evolving.

However...NONE ARE REMOTELY CONNECTED TO LUCIFER!
I am quite disgusted with the lies still being perpetuated about Lucifer.

LOL!
Send them back to meet Rex!
Before P wiped the saurians out and worse.

posted December 31, 2010 03:30 PM            

Evil has no place in the Creation of the True One.

posted December 31, 2010 05:32 PM            

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Before P wiped the saurians out and worse.

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Originally posted by Lei_Keui:

This "Mayan" cycle also corresponds to a 26,000 year relationship of the Sun (Solar Logos) orbiting Alcyone, the central star of OUR Seven Sisters Pleiades constellation.

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That's creepy because he says later that the soul group Lucifer is from Venus...

Another thing I noticed is how he constantly emphasizes that he is more highly evolved than us, pretty much as if he's saying "I'm better than you, so obviously I know what I'm talking about and you don't and anything that doesn't make sense to you is because of your lack of understanding of...let's see...everything."
His politeness is (possibly) another tactic used to sell people. Humans respond to positive things better than negative (as was explained in the movie Inception) and Hidden Hand says repeatedly "It's hard, but we do this because we love you." That sold me when I was reading it.
The last thing that makes me wary is that, while responding to a hater comment that accuses him of being a fake conspiracy theorist, the last line he writes is "But you're doing a great job spreading the negativity around. We are grateful to you."

Err, what?

posted January 01, 2011 09:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
Im still reading through the HH PDF.... did they really have to drone on so much -rolls eyes-

So I don't get it, not many here questioning this persons validity. You really buying what they are selling?

Lets just break down the basic premise of what this insidious person is saying.

HH says we are slaves on this planet, slaves to an angry jealous god called Yahweh.

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He says we are part of the soul group yaweh, yahweh being the whole.

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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:

Our only hope of ever evolving, is through HH & his families good graces as he is literally Lucifer incarnate.
(Millions of little Lucifer's I might add) and is here to save and free us all as he was sent by
the Galactic Council of Elders from inside Saturn.

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There was nothing about that being our own hope of evolution. It was just a faster way that's all. I don't take hard lives because it's a slow way to evolve. Also my understanding is we're literally holding back the galaxy to some degree by where we are at.

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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:

HH & his extended family from undisclosed secret (omgs so special) bloodline are the chosen ones.
Galactic volunteers and there mission is simple, be absolutely as evil/negative as possible and all
of the silly earth monkeys will start evolving...

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You have no idea the trauma illuminati members go through to be 'family'. There is nothing innately special about the bloodline short of it just being a pawn for the higher ups. Most in the illuminati bloodlines are clueless to it short and are only vaguely proud of being related to the royal families of europe and that is as aware as many will get. Some are in the active satanic bloodlines where there is a little more awareness, but some of the mk-ultra survivors were clueless as to their blood until people had to point out they had two of the 13 satanic bloodlines on either side of their family tree. People who are aware take their order from above and the highest earthly illuminati are basically slaves to the orders of the higher ups. He -repeatedly- says this in the pdf. I don't know why you chose to say this.

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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:

and when they have sufficiently cultivated there energy enough
and evolved to a reasonable level, its Harrrrrrrrrrrvessttt Time!!

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Perhaps you have not read into the parable of the sower in the bible?

I'm also really honestly suprised you trust channeled information. The last time I watched a channeler he made the satanic symbol very briefly half way through the channeling. Even without that, knowing how easily it can be influenced or the speaker can change. Many try to pretend to be the pleiadians. A lot of channelings are said to be 100% CIA material anyway.

I don't know why you all need to be so judgmental. I'll leave weighing of karma to the lords of karma.

If evil has no place in creation tell me why does it exist? I've been wondering my whole live why I was so evil to deserve the punishments I have been given but so far I have no answers. If god is the creation of all that is and all is well, then tell me how that computes? Perhaps god is dualistic after all and only exists in certain things. I mean really..

posted January 01, 2011 10:18 AM            

I am not sure I understand the core of what you are saying.

but from what I understand from your post, you wonder why some of us question this character despite the evident metaphysical truth he's apparently giving.

is that what you are saying? well that is what I understand at least.

well, I personally disagree with what is said by this man, not because I question the validity of such and such topic he talks about, but because I refute the idea that this material is posted here as an insider's point of view.

I find sad that we jump to swallow everything supposedly "hidden"

it is the latest fashion I think.

there are valids point in what is said in the text, as you'd expect even from an hoax, when this one wants to be believable, being posted on a forum apparently specialist of the subject. (the subject here being the reality of an elite who enlsave human beings, but also an elite, however benevolent or not it is, mixing spirituality to our human conditions of living and state of affairs)

there is 2 subjects here, and disagreing with one is not the same as disagreing with both.

it is good for you if you believe anyone who speak confidently of an "elitist" or fairly avant-guardist subject matter. it shows that you'd not expect to find hoaxes being used on this kind of topics. but I am much more cynical, or conscious of human fraility. and I would expect that some of us, when faced with fear, try to quench it by many ways. especially if this person is really interested by the subject; otherwise he'd be baffled and leave the subject alone.

but someone concerned by it and fearing what he yet doesn't understand could believe the only solution for him would be to manipulate other and try to test their own certitudes.

that person would be aware of the subject, he would have read stuff, enough to have been awaken to those fears that lead him to act and manipultate the certitudes and doubts of fellow seekers for his own reassurance, or game.

regarding the topics evoked in the pages, I don't ascribe credibility to it nor judge them irrelevant because they are mentioned by the so-called Hidden_Hand

I am merely talking of the credibility of the source, like lexx and others here.