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rajji
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posted September 14, 2011 12:39 AM
  
This a quite a Complex Phenomenon.The world of Karma is a complex and challenging subject, and different beliefs can bring confusion. Hence let us all discuss How it works and what it means in its true essence.
How to go about as IQ suggested in realising the trick to Balance the scales of Karma......
During life there can be many events and circumstances that seem to us impossibly harsh and unfair. Whether it is a minor event such as unjustified accusations and ensuing judgments, or a major disaster involving brutality and even murder, the damage can be far reaching and deeply traumatic to the lives of more than just the victim. And this can be made even worse when there seems to be no punishment for the aggressor. Even when our courts take charge, the emotional scars of an offence can remain for years to come, and no amount of money or length of prison sentence can compensate for such a trauma. And so it can often seem that the world is a very unfair place. Yet there are those who believe in the absolute perfection and justice of the universe, and that somehow, somewhere, someday- in this life or maybe the next - a price will be paid for all wrongdoings that will adjust the scales and bring justice to bear upon any aggressor. IP: Logged |
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posted September 14, 2011 12:42 AM
The Lords Of Karma- There is a notion that Higher Disincarnate Beings are in charge of the process, and these are known as The Lords of Karma.
they are thought to reside as arbiters in the Universal Judgment Hall, where hearts are weighed against actions taken in life, and retribution or reward assessed accordingly. To many this is a frightening prospect, but it should not be forgotten that the rewards for honesty, truth and love can be very great, and retribution only comes to those who cannot or will not take responsibility for the errors they have made, or indeed the pain they have caused to others. Karmic Retribution is not about bringing "suffering", but bringing "realisation", and the job of the Karmic Lords is not to dish out punishment, but to show us how to avoid it. The way that this is done is to put us in a position where we really "feel" what others have felt at the hands of ourselves. There is no greater learning than that of a total experience first hand. The process is governed by Truth - absolute truth - and all the facts, however obscure, are placed before the individual so there can be no illusions, for they can see this truth for themselves. The end result is that either proper recompense is made, and the scales adjusted, or the aggressor unwittingly becomes the new victim, for a wilful liar will always live in a hell of their own making. IP: Logged |
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posted September 14, 2011 12:44 AM
So maybe, those who have ever suffered an untruth, injustice or brutality at the hands of others, can take some solace in the belief that there are no secrets in the after life - no lies can be hidden, no truth untold, and there is nowhere to run from any misdeed. And those who genuinely have given their hearts and mind to the benefit of this beautiful world we live in, without seeking recognition or return, can be rest assured that their efforts have not gone unnoticed. But maybe too we all could be more careful in the negative judgments we make of others, and the actions we take because of them? Due to the fragility of our personalities, such judgments are likely to be flawed, and we rarely if ever will really know all the facts. Of course, through life we have to make assessments all the time, but perhaps it is wise to try to make these on situations rather than the people within them? This makes for simpler choices for, if we don't like a "situation" we have the freewill to stay in it or move out of it. Situations are not reactive, but people are, and if we insist on laying blame on individuals, then this can just open the way to unnecessary karmic hurdles. It is said that what we give out to others will be returned to us 3 fold, and if this is so, then surely the rewards of honest respect, loyalty and love are preferable to that of wilful ignorance, false pride, and aggression? IP: Logged |
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posted September 14, 2011 12:59 AM
Karma is Cause and Effect-"It's not what happens to us, but the way we react that counts"
And we all have to experience everything about life - both the good and bad, joy and sorrow, from the rich and famous to the damaged and betrayed - if we are ever to have real compassion and empathy with our fellow man.
And just as we can make mistakes and fail our exams, so we can make mistakes in life also, and pay the price accordingly.We are told that Karma is the result of previous actions and, those who believe in reincarnation can see how the this law of cause and effect can work, not only within one life, but across a series of lives. Hence there is the claim that there is always a logical reason why some people appear to have to cope with much more suffering than others, but we are only able to observe this from a narrower view point than the greater whole, and that's why it is so difficult to understand. Karma and suffering-
True to human nature the suffering part of karma seems to catch the attention first, yet it is a popular misperception that karma must necessarily be bad. We are told it can be good also. It only depends on what went on before, and karmic conditions are only a process of adjustment to obtain spiritual balance, and if we have "sown" well, we will "reap" a good harvest. Karma is not a harsh judge, just an honest one, for it requires exact retribution or reward for both previous thought and action. Apparently thoughts are a key factor for, even these and our emotional behavior, have a direct affect upon our lives and those of others. This reasoning may be interesting to consider for, although reincarnation suggests that the body and personality are born again and again, it is considered that the "higher" part of our mind is only born once, and proceeds with us from life to life; thus learning from, and absorbing experiences in an attempt to reach ultimate perfection. Instant Karma-
The lives of all of us revolve around time, and sections of time, divided into days, hours and minutes. This is quite acceptable to us, and we all understand that if we drink too much on a wild night out, we will likely pay the price with a violent hangover the following morning. It is what some might call "Instant Karma" or, to others, just "suffering the consequences" of previous actions the day before.
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posted September 14, 2011 01:06 AM
How negative karma is born and How to avoid and know if you have reacted in the right way!Difficult karma is said to be born from bad habit patterns and weaknesses that we spend many a lifetime repeating until, through experience, we come to understand exactly what we are doing wrong. It appears that it is our attitude and motive for actions that are important and, although we may be struck by all sorts of major and minor disasters, it is our REACTION to events that can make the difference between our past sadness and future happiness. The surest way of knowing if we have reacted properly is when the pressure of the difficulties starts to fall away from us
It is the emotional upset associated with the problems that causes the trouble, not the problems themselves. Karma, like most beneficial philosophies, teaches us that it is not HOW we end up that matters, but how we have AFFECTED the hearts and souls of others - that is the true yardstick. We are assured that if we feel we are having a rough time in this life, there is absolutely no reason why we cannot take action to make it easier for ourselves in the next. It is what we THINK that counts as much as what we do, and "loving thy neighbour" can be as genuine as true consideration, or as false as our own selfish motives. We are warned that we can fool others and even ourselves for a while, but eventually events will surround us that will show us the truth of what our motives really are. And that is all that is needed - just to recognise the truth! If we take responsibility for our actions, and make the most of our lives, without blaming others or an illusive Creator, we are then more able to get off the wheel of fate and move forward in greater control of our destiny. source: http://www.orderofthewhitelion.com/karma@/Karmicretrib.html IP: Logged |
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posted September 14, 2011 01:45 AM
Few Doubts are plaguing me with regards to-Kundalini,Hermetics and Karma.
Is not awakening of this strange force a part and parcel of Occult or hermetic science?IQ stated-Hermetically speaking, they destroyed the energy of the Pendulum and polarized to the goal of freedom.Once the pendulum switched to begin punishment of the British for not leaving India, the enlightened Freemasons and Occultists in charge of Britain forced the Elite Windsor Reptilians to give in for they knew the consequences would be harsh for the Nation. The British Nation gained points by saving the world from Hitler and their good karmas would have been utterly wasted had they continued earning negative karma by brutal colonialism of a now non-violent population.
Karma is also related to blessings and curses of 100% Kundalini Realized Beings, those who are above Karmic Debts. Like Swami Vivekananda. The United States received a powerful blessing from from Swami Vivekananda when he went to Chicago.
Can you elaborate on this IQ?
Is not kundalini fire or serpent power an integral part of hermetic and occult science?
It produces the same effect irrespective of its use by any source.I believe it has nothing to do with outwitting karma. IP: Logged |
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posted September 14, 2011 06:14 AM
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Originally posted by rajji:
The Lords Of Karma- There is a notion that Higher Disincarnate Beings are in charge of the process, and these are known as The Lords of Karma.
they are thought to reside as arbiters in the Universal Judgment Hall, where hearts are weighed against actions taken in life, and retribution or reward assessed accordingly. To many this is a frightening prospect, but it should not be forgotten that the rewards for honesty, truth and love can be very great, and retribution only comes to those who cannot or will not take responsibility for the errors they have made, or indeed the pain they have caused to others. Karmic Retribution is not about bringing "suffering", but bringing "realisation", and the job of the Karmic Lords is not to dish out punishment, but to show us how to avoid it. The way that this is done is to put us in a position where we really "feel" what others have felt at the hands of ourselves. There is no greater learning than that of a total experience first hand. The process is governed by Truth - absolute truth - and all the facts, however obscure, are placed before the individual so there can be no illusions, for they can see this truth for themselves. The end result is that either proper recompense is made, and the scales adjusted, or the aggressor unwittingly becomes the new victim, for a wilful liar will always live in a hell of their own making.
Well it is not right to accuse me or anyone of wrongdoing and to blame us for our woes and hardships in life without proving we are guilty or innocent.
Not very evolved those LORDS......
even humans at least try to determine guilt or innocence.
If these LORDS were real they would fraking know that you do not punish a baby, you do not torture anyone without proving they deserve it.
To the best of my knowing I committed none of the crimes that I am being accused of.
What good is it to torture either a person who is unaware of their crimes or worse,
is innocent and perhaps has even been martyred countless times?
This is not the actions of any advanced being to torture in essence either a person with amnesia of past lives, as we most are,
or an innocent person who by their very natures would not harm others intentionally.
I am so damn disgusted at being blamed for my hardships and the hardships suffered by others automatically being labeled;
they deserve the suffering. IP: Logged |
rajji
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posted September 14, 2011 06:20 AM
Lexx Please post your opinions as well.
Everybody join in, each voice matters.
Of course this topic of karma is 'A BIG CONFUSION' It seems the more you get into the core of it-the more it seems to be leading to nowhere...Result being it feeels like Sinking into a Quagmire....
But let us all come and voice out our opinions whether it be for or against karma for a better understanding of it.IP: Logged |
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posted September 14, 2011 06:37 AM
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Lexx Please post your opinions as well.
Everybody join in, each voice matters.
Of course this topic of karma is 'A BIG CONFUSION' It seems the more you get into the core of it-the more it seems to be leading to nowhere...Result being it feeels like Sinking into a Quagmire....
But let us all come and voice out our opinions whether it be for or against karma for a better understanding of it.
A better understanding, fine.
I am all for Karma for the guilty.
However they need to know why they are being punished, otherwise they will become bitter and some even meaner in time.
I mean you do not beat a dog a year later for a misdeed now do you? He will look at you like;
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oh why are you hurting me? 
:. What kind of idiot would do such a thing? Yet those so called LORDS if real are doing exactly that in essence! So they deserve punished for their crimes against humanity.
And the torture of innocent folks and even beginning the torture on newborns is just plain cruel, nasty, and the acts of highly un-evolved beings. .
If Karma is true, it it skewed and something went wrong with that system.
Or it is simply shite happens, luck of the draw.------------------
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posted September 14, 2011 06:39 AM
Thanks Rajji for creating this topic string.Kundalini Energy is very much related to Karmic Debts, as taught by the great Aghori Vimalananda. Only when maximum debst are paid can the Kundalini release fully from the Earth Element based root chakra. If someone raises Kundalini without repaying karmic debts, he or she will make egoistic errors and the next lifeline will be most likely full of suffering and misery to pay back tons of karmic debts that come from heaping abuse from power in the previous lifeline. Even this great man Vimalananda with his deepest knowledge of practical rituals and advanced occult magick could not stop his beloved son from dying at age below 10. There are hints in his books to show that his son was more evolved than him. This gives us a hint that Soul Contracts of highly evolved Beings have a different play of Karma. Meaning, highly evolved Beings realize their Kundalini fully in the immediate past lifeline, and then re-enter Earth by borrowing some karmic debts of others [lightening their burden selflessly] and help others close to them by helping eliminate karmic debts of their "imprisoned" Soul Mates.
The grief of losing his son propelled Vimalananda to even greater heights. He was Kundalini Realized yet without Nirvikalpa Samadhi because he chose to not pay off all his debts. He would repay debts worth lifelines of many by using the Race Track to earn and then freely give away the money. Others like Swami Vivekananda attain full Samadhi and are totally free of debts. They freely give their knowledge to help others break free and use their charged up Kundalini connected to God Source to effect magnificent blessings. Blessings work by burning off bad karmas of a nation ahead of the time of paying up. They delay retribution.
Curses do the opposite, they advance retribution. It is said the curse of a Kundalini Realized Being is also a blessing indirect because the speed up of retribution eases the next incarnation and helps bring enlightenment.
What about Atheists contention that KArma, Forgiveness and Love are all BS?
Well, for the Atheists, I have a material proof that they cannot take forgiveness and love lightly. Hate, Stress and rage, they make the body convert valuable hormone resources to Cortisol and excess Adrenaline at even normal times. Since Atheists do not believe in Infinite God Source, they do agree that Human biological nutrient resources are limited. Hence, when they truly need fresh Adrenaline and hormones for fast muscle action to duck or run to escape physical attacks, they will not have any, and they will get whacked by an abuser.
So, by mentally practicing forgiveness and keeping a state of uncondtional love, they imporve their breathing, oxygenate cells very well and prevent resource wastage. LAck of Cortisol will prevent fat from accumulating in the wrong areas and increased neuropeptides from positive attitude will increase awareness, quality of sleep, nerve response, reaction time etc to be in a better state to protect oneself. There is enough documented evidence of improved Melatonin-Serotonin ratio in improving all kinds of personal health, and someday Melatonin may safely treat Alzheimers, Cancer, Radiation Problems and Heart Disease. Hate filled and angry people do not produce as much Melatonin as peaceful, loving and positive minded folk who get a great nights sleep without any worry.
The Law of Karma thus works even for atheists in accordance with their Soul Less, Spirit Less, Karma Less, Random Theory of Life. Ergo, only the most Self Sabotaging of atheists will scoff at the notion of Unconditional Forgiveness. Again to the Occultist, this Self Sabotage is perfectly in line with karmic retribution earned by the atheist. The atheist is destined to suffer by deliberately ignoring Karmic Laws after having the rare good fortune of studying them. Also, the Atheist is not 'karmically' permitted to safely raise his Kundalini beyond the 3rd Chakra until some amount of unconditional love develops for God Source, Spirituality, Spiritual Beings and the Divine Spark in Humanity and all Sentient Life. IP: Logged |
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posted September 14, 2011 06:39 AM
Hmmm I cannot help but try to understand both sides of the coin-I understand that Karma has to be worked through Unconditional love but that cannot be at the cost of adopting non-violence as a means of life.
It just does not seem to be feasible to me like lexx and voix and others say... at the same time there are certain aspects that I seem to agree to regarding karma those put by IQ and Mochai and emerald..
Seems like it is a complex web indeed!IP: Logged |
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posted September 14, 2011 06:55 AM
Violence is permitted for Self-Defense without earning karmic debts AFTER Spiritual Realization. Gandhi chose the non violence route because he was aware of the nature of the Karmic Debts. Britain was not a Pol Pot regime , the British did many good things. They were not assassinating millions, they were provoking to incite violence to win the battle of Karmic Debts. Please understand, an enlightened Gandhi and Nehru [ whose dad was a Freemason] were fighting enlightened Reptilian-German Windsors who also had enlightened Freemasons in their rank and file. It was quite a chess match spanning Beings with millions of years of combined evolution. Gandhi could not teach the masses karmically "ok" violence that Krishna taught Arjuna.
Arjuna would respect every Higher Soul and take permission before piercing the enemy with his arrow. He would not think of him as enemy either, even that thought produces karma so he would send the arrow as an instrument of God to complete a Play [Leela] of God in which the so called enemy combatant is a willing player, though far less evolved than Arjuna. There was not a drop of hate before the arrow left Arjuna's Quiver. He would not credit for any "kill". Krishna would guarantee safe passage in the Astral to each and every killed combatant. Can any proponent of violence in the world today guarantee such Self Control before proceeding to land blows or shoot AK 56 rifles? I do not think so, hence Non-Violence has better results today by offering a much easier route [albeit a bit more painful] to freeing karmic debts and attaining goals. Please note that Krishna himself did not fight [except Asuras or 4th D Demons. He could slaughter them in a 4D light versus 4d Dark zero-karma death match. ].
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posted September 14, 2011 06:59 AM
iQ
you have never actually gotten in my face and told me you see me as a bad person an un-evolved person but have in your round about way said so many times.
I will not list all the insults you have thrown at me and others from we are evil reptilians or low lifes, and other judgements on us whom you believe deserve punished.
That is just plain not compassionate.
It gives the wealthy and the fortunate more excuses to look down their holier than thou noses upon the undeserved suffering of others and worse,
makes them feel they have to right to cause suffering or not help the suffering.
Yes I remembering arguing with you about that bit before;
that to help the suffering is wrong because it is interfering with their Karma.
You never explained why you think that way except to indicate you are in your mind better than me and others.
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posted September 14, 2011 07:02 AM
There is a very good point that there are problems in the current implementation of Karmic Retribution on Earth today. Yes, there is a huge problem since 1945. Those creating the problem are trying to take advantage of inter dimensional loopholes involving Mind Control and Manipulation.
And any erring lords of karma [Fallen Angels?] will have to answer to those more advanced on why they allowed such wrong doing. Rules of the game were changed in the middle of the game.The Law of Karma ultimately catches up even with the most advanced of crooks. Why is the Kuipers Belt teeming with so much activity of late? 5th D retribution on its way to 4th D mistakes in tackling 3D Karma. IP: Logged |
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posted September 14, 2011 07:13 AM
Avoiding the issue by spewing gobblely goonk space cadet ramblings is not an answer.IP: Logged |
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posted September 14, 2011 07:15 AM
Lexx,
Nope, I do not think I am more evolved than you. I think you are more evolved than me but also you choose to stubbornly refuse to grow in wisdom beyond a certain point. You choose to stagnate for decades in an evolutionary score of say 89/100 whereas I choose to grow fast from my 30 to at least 45/100 in my life so far, and hope to crack centum next time round.Why are you bad because you suffer? Only a very powerful Soul could take the kind of suffering and misery that you have managed to bear in life. I have already cracked the reason for your suffering, your Ego gets in the way of assimilating this. You do not want to learn from me because your Ego paints me as a Sexist, Wealthy, Indian elitist. Why should God give an 89/100 student an easy test? He will Challenge you. He will challenge you to swallow your pride in your research and learn from a much less evolved guy like me. He wants you to get 100/100 in this incarnation and take you to new Angelic Heights. He Picks Wisely and Tests Wisely. Are you game? God knows what is in my heart. I have two beautiful toddlers, I cannot afford to hold hatred towards anybody nor think bad about anyone, least of all a person who suffers because the bad I do will afflict not me anymore but my kids because I am virtually in 4th D now. I have seen this happen. 10 harsh transits to me, not a scratch, yet a dozen genetically linked relatives suffered terribly. I certainly cannot afford to insult anyone. I am all for helping others compassionately but after we take spiritual permission from their Higher Self. It is ok to take this after we help too. Do you still harbor the thought that I think negatively or insultingly about you?
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posted September 14, 2011 07:28 AM
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Lexx,
Nope, I do not think I am more evolved than you. I think you are more evolved than me but also you choose to stubbornly refuse to grow in wisdom beyond a certain point. You choose to stagnate for decades in an evolutionary score of say 89/100 whereas I choose to grow fast from my 30 to at least 45/100 in my life so far, and hope to crack centum next time round.Why are you bad because you suffer? Only a very powerful Soul could take the kind of suffering and misery that you have managed to bear in life. I have already cracked the reason for your suffering, your Ego gets in the way of assimilating this. You do not want to learn from me because your Ego paints me as a Sexist, Wealthy, Indian elitist. Why should God give an 89/100 student an easy test? He will Challenge you. He will challenge you to swallow your pride in your research and learn from a much less evolved guy like me. He wants you to get 100/100 in this incarnation and take you to new Angelic Heights. He Picks Wisely and Tests Wisely. Are you game? God knows what is in my heart. I have two beautiful toddlers, I cannot afford to hold hatred towards anybody nor think bad about anyone, least of all a person who suffers because the bad I do will afflict not me anymore but my kids because I am virtually in 4th D now. I have seen this happen. 10 harsh transits to me, not a scratch, yet a dozen genetically linked relatives suffered terribly. I certainly cannot afford to insult anyone. I am all for helping others compassionately but after we take spiritual permission from their Higher Self. It is ok to take this after we help too. Do you still harbor the thought that I think negatively or insultingly about you?
Still judging me I see.
Still assuming you know all about me and my motivations.
Any one who really knows me knows I do not stifle my evolution.
I am willing to learn from anyone.
As one of my sig lines indicated;
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Everyone is a teacher
Everyone is a student
Learning is forever
And no, I am happy for your good fortune,
but that gives you no right to judge me without knowing me.
You asked me things in the past and I told you I was not allowed ethically on a spiritual level to divulge certain information to you or anyone at that time.
I take such responsibility very seriously.
It is not time to reveal certain things.
In fact I feel I am being punished because in the etheric realms I have battled the evilness that has deceived humankind and the more I am punished the more I know it is scaring something very much or they would not be trying to break me.
That tells me I am indeed on the right path.   quote:
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I have already cracked the reason for your suffering, your Ego gets in the way of assimilating this. You do not want to learn from me because your Ego paints me as a Sexist, Wealthy, Indian elitist.
Now that just smacks of an ego trip there iQ.
You cracked the reason for my suffering?
So if I do not bow to you as my guru/wise master as some others do......I am wrong?
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Why should God give an 89/100 student an easy test? He will Challenge you. He will challenge you to swallow your pride in your research and learn from a much less evolved guy like me.
If I see validity I take that and have from you but not all you preach teach feels right. quote:
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He wants you to get 100/100 in this incarnation and take you to new Angelic Heights. He Picks Wisely and Tests Wisely.Are you game? God knows what is in my heart.
Angelics are mostly evil. I have personally witnessed such. The more beautiful and bright "appearing" the more they are deceivers. True light is knowledge not beauty and bedazzlements.
As to only God knowing what is in your heart?
OK.....
I shall grant you that but grant me the same sir,
you do not know me and my not blindly following you is not why I am suffering hardships!
You are not my saviour sir.IP: Logged |
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posted September 14, 2011 07:49 AM
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Avoiding the issue by spewing gobblely goonk space cadet ramblings is not an answer.
Well Lexx dont you know its time to book your place in space!Vroooooooooom!
Shuttling civilians into space is closer than ever. Bookings and deposits are already on the go!
Who would want to miss the ultimate adventure...I wish Randall could book a space ship for all of us. IP: Logged |
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posted September 14, 2011 07:52 AM
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Well Lexx dont you know its time to book your place in space!Vroooooooooom!
Shuttling civilians into space is closer than ever. Bookings and deposits are already on the go!
Who would want to miss the ultimate adventure...I wish Randall could book a space ship for of us.
Heh heh......
Got mine already. 
No further comment on that or I will sound like a space cadet.  IP: Logged |
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posted September 14, 2011 07:56 AM
OK...
must go for now.
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posted September 14, 2011 08:07 AM
Good day!
But Will wait for your comment.
Did you really book one??
That sounds amazing.
We all wannna see the other side of Us,Ya know.
It is worth it!Unless we dont get lost in space or kidnapped by some aliens and land back safely on our motherland.
But I guess the ship will be completely vaccum packed and we all will be flying inside!So there is no scope for us to have open windows.
I hope Randall is listening-Randall c'mon we are waiting for your green signal!
Hope he will book and pay the deposits as well on behalf of us-WE-The Ardent LL fans.
Lexx you can cancel the previous one and let Randall do the rest...hehe
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posted September 14, 2011 09:13 AM
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Now that just smacks of an ego trip there iQ.
You cracked the reason for my suffering?
So if I do not bow to you as my guru/wise master as some others do......I am wrong?
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Au contraire, I cannot handle the karmic debt of your acknowledgment of me as a Guru. I would not touch a powerful but misdirected etheric lightning bolt until I am evolved enough to have the right rubber gloves. Only a 90+/100 Lady will be brave enough to be your Guru. I am more like a humble Librarian who knows the books you have not read, and have found the answers to some of your questions clearly answered in those books, and am merely stupefied at the refusal to acknowledge these books, in spite of the proactive learning signature.<<
In fact I feel I am being punished because in the etheric realms I have battled the evilness that has deceived humankind and the more I am punished the more I know it is scaring something very much or they would not be trying to break me.
That tells me I am indeed on the right path.
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I think this is quite an Ego trip as well, that you alone have solved Spiritual Puzzles to the level that you alone are singled out for punishment, and that Vivekananda, VimalAnanda, Gautam Buddha, Shri Krishna, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Emerson and others were duffers or playing for Samael's team and hence did not suffer like you. I do not understand how lower negative beings can punish a Warrior who has defeated them on higher planes, it is a new idea to me and must research further. You are still focused in the Samael = Pleaidian, All Reptilians are good, and All Angelics are = Evil analysis. That is partially the mantra of Anna Hayes as well who asserts the entire Universe is Evil and must be annihilated to free trapped Souls. Anna Hayes was programmed at Montauk. I told you before, all 1954 born are susceptible to certain Montauk Programming that embeds graphical images to generate false memories.
The proof of being a ripe energy leak candidate is abuse as a child. Project Montauk was very active from 1963 to 1972, your formative years. The programming is done from the Astral during certain stages of sleep. Moms of Montauk Victims are also programmed by M-O-D programming. Your Mom can
kick your butt by hating herself, it is as if she is the Voodoo doll for you. The pain is transferred through the X-Chromosome Frequency becase her Astral masters can protect her [for which she may pay a very high price], and her Self Hatred gets directed to you. I am sure you know better but this is my humble view. Evil Angelics are a Hologram and you have rightly witnessed that. By judging all Angels as evil however, you invoke the Law of Attraction, simple. Nobody is above the 7 Hermetic Laws. Not even Samael. Samael is a negative Reptilian Entity. If you research the Book of Enoch and analyze the wonderful articles on "Flying Serpents" by Mr Boulay , you will understand that Samael is indeed a false god with a team of wicked enforcers [who had faces of a Fiery Serpent] but he was negative Draco Reptilian. This does not absolve negative Pleidians or "Astral Body" eaters whom you confuse to be Soul Eaters [because you may have not analyzed Robert Masters excellent analysis of the 5 Way Path of Sekhmet]. Earth has had to deal with many negative ETs with selfish agendas over many cycles of evolution. This is what Kundalini of the Earth is all about, Earth Being has plenty to release, and all of Humanity who think positive, adopt forgiveness and unconditional Love help the Earth as a positive collective without leaking energy to negative ETs by being negative, sad, depressed or miserable. We do the duty of releasing negative karmic debts on a global scale. <<
I shall grant you that but grant me the same sir,
you do not know me and my not blindly following you is not why I am suffering hardships!
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Granted that there are much better explanations than my humble analysis and am sure you have much better solutions than what I have researched but know this: Whatever I have collected works very well on others. I am sorry that they do not work for you but I will not stop writing them because other anonymous readers can get the benefit. I hope you are clear that I am not putting you down nor thinking negatively about you.
but I will expect more politeness and respect from an Etheric Warrior. Comments about my Kuipers Belt theory being junk are certainly not befitting an Entity of your calibre and absolutely do not help your cause, whatever it may be. ------------------
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posted September 14, 2011 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by LEXX:
Now that just smacks of an ego trip there iQ.
You cracked the reason for my suffering?
So if I do not bow to you as my guru/wise master as some others do......I am wrong?
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Originally posted by iQ:
Au contraire, I cannot handle the karmic debt of your acknowledgment of me as a Guru.
I am acknowledging what I have observed from others, and yes, whether you realize it or not that is how many seem to be perceiving you. quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
I would not touch a powerful but misdirected etheric lightning bolt until I am evolved enough to have the right rubber gloves.
Not sure how to take the flattery there.....but misdirected? I feel you are misdirected, and you feel I am.....so who is right?????????? quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Only a 90+/100 Lady will be brave enough to be your Guru.
I am missing what you mean there. Lady??????? quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
I am more like a humble Librarian who knows the books you have not read, and have found the answers to some of your questions clearly answered in those books, and am merely stupefied at the refusal to acknowledge these books, in spite of the proactive learning signature.
Again I ask....what makes you feel you have answers to my questions and all via any source at your disposal?
You do not know me well enough to make that call.
I have a keen sense of knowing when a thing is right or the right time. If your books were right for me I feel sure I would have read them. I feel God/Meta Soul would have guided me to read them if it were the right path for me. Everything you have offered I have not just tossed out.
Very careful consideration is what I do before "filing". And all is kept in case needed to review later.
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Originally posted by LEXX:
In fact I feel I am being punished because in the etheric realms I have battled the evilness that has deceived humankind and the more I am punished the more I know it is scaring something very much or they would not be trying to break me.
That tells me I am indeed on the right path.
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Originally posted by iQ:
I think this is quite an Ego trip as well, that you alone have solved Spiritual Puzzles to the level that you alone are singled out for punishment, and that Vivekananda, VimalAnanda, Gautam Buddha, Shri Krishna, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Emerson and others were duffers or playing for Samael's team and hence did not suffer like you.
Oh for crying out loud iQ 
I NEVER said me alone is singled out nor only one to suffer!!!!!!!! Geeez dude....millions have and do. Btw...S.Buddha sends a hello.
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Originally posted by iQ:
I do not understand how lower negative beings can punish a Warrior who has defeated them on higher planes, it is a new idea to me and must research further.
Firstly get over idea that there is higher and lower. Then look at aftermath of big battles. The field is often littered with hidden booby traps and it all a mine field of sorts and some go forth to de-arm the mines and get hurt or poisoned. The enemy vanquished and or taken away, does not mean there are no hazards left in the field to deal with. The worse are I feel the mind traps that can affect the naive and or vain....with what they think is information channeled to them from a "higher" plain, or some bright shiny oooh its soooo pretty angelic or whatever. Beware that which says you are special, chosen, and titles you as lightworker and other flowing flattering terms.
A quote from the movie;
"The Devil's Advocate"
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Vanity! My favorite sin!
Indeed! Vanity is the favorite of evil or those not out for the good of the human race.
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Originally posted by iQ:
You are still focused in the Samael = Pleaidian, All Reptilians are good, and All Angelics are = Evil analysis.
It may appear that way but that is not true. The need to radically simplify here at LL and anywhere, is required. The intricacy of it all would take way to much time to explain here and is really not the average person's business to need to know. quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
That is partially the mantra of Anna Hayes as well who asserts the entire Universe is Evil and must be annihilated to free trapped Souls. Anna Hayes was programmed at Montauk. I told you before, all 1954 born are susceptible to certain Montauk Programming that embeds graphical images to generate false memories.
The proof of being a ripe energy leak candidate is abuse as a child. Project Montauk was very active from 1963 to 1972, your formative years.
I am quite aware of all this and do not wish to divulge more here. quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
The programming is done from the Astral during certain stages of sleep. Moms of Montauk Victims are also programmed by M-O-D programming. Your Mom can
kick your butt by hating herself, it is as if she is the Voodoo doll for you. The pain is transferred through the X-Chromosome Frequency becase her Astral masters can protect her [for which she may pay a very high price], and her Self Hatred gets directed to you. I am sure you know better but this is my humble view.
Ok all that, sorry....personally cannot buy, at least not as described/connected.....
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Originally posted by iQ:
Evil Angelics are a Hologram and you have rightly witnessed that.
Well their effect of nearly killing me was no hologram. quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
By judging all Angels as evil however, you invoke the Law of Attraction, simple. Nobody is above the 7 Hermetic Laws. Not even Samael.
I do not judge all who humans call or would call "angel" bad.
Trouble is, it is the evil ones who loved the name humans gave them, and the others, the good "angels" prefer to no be called the name evil loved to use for themselves to deceive humanity.
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Samael is a negative Reptilian Entity.
Samael was no more no less a reptilian than any human being. We are all physically the reptilians at our base brain. That is a scientific fact! The non reptilians loved getting humans to turn against themselves and deny their base brain. quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
If you research the Book of Enoch and analyze the wonderful articles on "Flying Serpents" by Mr Boulay , you will understand that Samael is indeed a false god with a team of wicked enforcers [who had faces of a Fiery Serpent] but he was negative Draco Reptilian. This does not absolve negative Pleidians or "Astral Body" eaters whom you confuse to be Soul Eaters [because you may have not analyzed Robert Masters excellent analysis of the 5 Way Path of Sekhmet].
I have read all that and more sir. It was amusing, yet sad because of so much false information and hype, and overall a big disappointment. Nothing more dangerous than lies and mythos all mixed in with tiny gems of truth. Trouble is, many buy the entire package.
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Originally posted by iQ:
Earth has had to deal with many negative ETs with selfish agendas over many cycles of evolution. This is what Kundalini of the Earth is all about, Earth Being has plenty to release, and all of Humanity who think positive, adopt forgiveness and unconditional Love help the Earth as a positive collective without leaking energy to negative ETs by being negative, sad, depressed or miserable. We do the duty of releasing negative karmic debts on a global scale.
I will not address that at this time as it would open up a whole big can of worms, and open me up to having to tell things I'd rather not divulge at this time or any time in the near future. However yes, Earth has been visited from what I can ascertain, many times by many different "ETs".
quote:
Originally posted by LEXX:
I shall grant you that but grant me the same sir,
you do not know me and my not blindly following you is not why I am suffering hardships!
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Granted that there are much better explanations than my humble analysis and am sure you have much better solutions than what I have researched but know this: Whatever I have collected works very well on others. I am sorry that they do not work for you but I will not stop writing them because other anonymous readers can get the benefit.
Do as you feel is right, but kindly do not assume that what is right for you and others, is automatically right for me. quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
I hope you are clear that I am not putting you down nor thinking negatively about you.
but I will expect more politeness and respect from an Etheric Warrior. Comments about my Kuipers Belt theory being junk are certainly not befitting an Entity of your calibre and absolutely do not help your cause, whatever it may be.
Then I expect same from you. However I still cannot will not buy all you say as fact.
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posted September 14, 2011 12:48 PM
The Universal Laws that are Immutable!
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All my love, with all my Heart
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posted September 14, 2011 03:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
He would not think of him as enemy either, even that thought produces karma
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