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katatonic
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posted March 10, 2013 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fox showed two conspiracy shows today (one about aliens striking a deal with human governments and one about stargates).

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So "disclosure" seems like it's pretty close....when the government "comes out" about ufos and ets, will you believe it or call it a fabrication/conspiracy/false flag?

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posted April 14, 2013 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Dutch non-profit called Mars One is already recruiting 1000 volunteers for a planned colony. They are shooting for 2023 to get the first group out there, with additional colonizers every two years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cY15Esr264

Mars Colonization Mission Lays Out Applicant Requirements

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvPh310i7Mg

Colonizing Mars- 1,000 Volunteers For 1-Way Trip

"The Mars One organisation has revealed details of its plans to land four astronauts on the Red Planet in 2023, with four additional 'crew' arriving every two years.

"The organisation said that it had had more than 1,000 volunteers for the mission, who emailed in via the foundation's website.

"Selection of the astronauts will begin next year, the Dutch organisation says.

"The trip to the planned 'colony' would be one-way - and the astronaut volunteers will live and die on Mars.

"Mars One aims to finance a mission to Mars via donations from corporations, people - and by creating a reality show-style 'media event' around the training and selection of its astronauts."

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posted April 14, 2013 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
So "disclosure" seems like it's pretty close....when the government "comes out" about ufos and ets, will you believe it or call it a fabrication/conspiracy/false flag?

If the government at long last performs a "disclosure" you can bet they have it carefully planned. They've kept it hidden for decades, for "national security" reasons, they say.

However, you can't keep things at bay forever. People more and more don't trust TPTB (The Powers That Be). For example, we are being forced to deal with ancient technology, such as the burning of coal for energy, when the shadow government has been tinkering and utilizing other vastly more efficient and advanced sources of energy (and propulsion) for decades. Yes, I believe at least some of this advanced knowledge was bartered for with aliens, in exchange for abducting humans, among other things.

The accounts are out there, of the supposed treaty between Eisenhower and aliens in 1954, if one cares to research.

Here is one rather long accounting of the fascinating story, of pasted together sources.

http://www.info-quest.org/documents/Eisenhowerufo.html

So, the government is perhaps in a tight spot, if it has been dealing with certain untrustworthy alien groups, in its greed for obtaining new technology.

According to some of the records included in the link above, an overture was made by a more spiritually "advanced" "Nordic" race way back then, to help us evolve; but we had to agree to get rid of nuclear weapons, among other things. They thought we were not evolved enough to handle their technology. The offer was declined, as the U.S. did not know how to trust the motives of these beings (there being no protocol for dealing with off-world races of beings!). The U.S. instead made deals with perhaps less spiritually evolved races (the "Greys,") in exchange for technology.

Unfortunately, the U.S. quickly realized the alien group it had struck a "deal" with was untrustworthy. More humans were abducted than agreed upon, and less technology was offered by the aliens. The U.S. was in over their heads. The conflicts over telling the American people, and the threats for speaking the truth about our involvement with aliens, were to rage on....

The account is fascinating.

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Regarding the moon landing, I'm not sure.

There is the theory that Stanley Kubrick was recruited to stage the televised landings, and that he tried to give hints through his films of his involvement and what he knew of the goings on of the hidden forces at work.

Here is a brief article with an analysis of the Stephen King movie, "The Shining," that Kubrick directed, with an eye toward interpreting it as full of messages regarding a faked moon landing:

Faked Moon Landings and Kubrick's 'The Shining'
Jan 21, 2010, by Robert Lamb
http://news.discovery.com/space/faked-moon-landings-and-kubricks-the-shining.htm

Here is a much longer exposition on this theory about Kubrick's films, from the originator of the idea, Jay Weidner.

How Stanley Kubrick Faked the Apollo Moon Landings
http://www.realitysandwich.com/kubrick_apollo

Here is a section from the above article that is interesting. Just one more theory...

"But why fake the moon landings at all? What would be the motivation? Authors Joseph Farrell and Henry Stevens both have shown us undeniable proof that Nazi scientists had developed advanced flying saucer technology as early as 1943. These authors also show that the US Government brought these same Nazi scientists into this country in order to build these highly advanced flying machines.

"Furthermore, they believe that the idea that aliens from outer space are invading the Earth is a clever cover story concocted by NASA to hide this technology.

"Many sources inside the military industrial complex have related to me that after John Kennedy was shown the flying saucer technology early in his Presidency, he realized that the advances in technology promised by the flying saucers could solve many of the pressing problems of the world. He saw that releasing this exotic technology would point the way towards cheap and environmentally friendly energy among other things.

"Soon after seeing the flying saucer technology, JFK made his famous speech asking NASA to land a man on the moon before the decade was out. Many insiders believed that this was a ploy by JFK to get NASA, and the secret government, to release their saucer technologies. Since it was obvious to everyone that standard rocket technology could not get man to the moon and back, JFK may have thought that NASA would be forced to release the knowledge of the technology behind the flying saucers in order to fulfill his vision and get to the moon by the end of the 1960s. JFK's ploy was therefore intended to free this advanced technology from the insidious hands of the shadow government.

"After the assassination of Kennedy in 1963, NASA began a new plan that would solve the problem that JFK initiated. This new plan would allow NASA, and the shadow government, to keep the saucer technology secret and to still make it look like standard rocketry had taken man to the moon and back.

"Someone high up in the shadow government decided to fake the entire series of moon landings in order to conceal the United States' extremely new and advanced Nazi technology both from us, the citizens, and our enemies. In some ways NASA's position on this was understandable. We were in the middle of the cold war with the Soviet Union. Did we really want to show the Russians what we had?"


Obviously, Weidner is keeping his blinders on to the possibility that we have been interacting with aliens, rather than old Nazis.

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posted April 16, 2013 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting info, Jovian.

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posted June 04, 2013 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good stuff.

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posted August 11, 2013 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonpie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 11, 2013 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We were in a race with Russia, and we wanted to win. Fake it till you make it style.

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posted November 12, 2013 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What did you say, moonpie?

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posted November 13, 2013 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a Southern tradition to have an RC cola and a moon pie.

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