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Topic: MK-Ultra again: DC Navalyard Shooting leaves 13 dead.
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iQ Moderator Posts: 4552 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 17, 2013 07:49 AM
When specific numbers like "13 killed" are seen in conjunction with a lone sniper, then it is quite clear that is yet another Mind Controlled killing to satisfy bloodthirsty masters. So many incidents, yet the public does not openly discuss the possibility of MK-Ultra. This Apathy is as tragic as the killings of innocents.IP: Logged |
BlackSeraph Knowflake Posts: 404 From: PA, USA Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 18, 2013 12:34 AM
I forget offhand what the significance of the number 16 in numerology is, but that's the number of hours per day he was said to play violent video games.A weekend or two ago I did about 12 hours of a new-ish (well, revamped and rereleased) MMO (Final Fantasy XIV). Let me tell you, eyestrain alone dissuades me from doing that again. But 16 hours of stuff like Call of Duty? Unless he had superhuman eyes, I have to wonder on that one. What also gets me is that he was said to be into Buddhism (wouldn't know it with the shooting), and would apparently meditate? But it's also been reported in the mainstream news that he heard voices and had some mental difficulties (claim of PTSD after helping out after 9/11? I don't remember offhand)... As soon as I heard about the voices, meditation and all, I immediately thought that something "jacked in" and took over. Akin to an Agent Smith jumping into a "still connected body"... if he had mental difficulties, did some opening up into the metaphysical, and had violent tendencies, would he or would he not practically act as a beacon to whatever malevolent entities are out there? Not saying that this is outright possession, but the possibility cannot be discounted. Especially considering the toll. I'm a bit nervous at work myself now, considering we have armed officers around (though they're wildlife conservation officers and don't usually come up to my neck of the woods unless they have computer problems/work needed)... plus I've in the past, I'll put it this way: a friend of mine voted me in the high school yearbook years ago "most likely to wind up in a clock tower with a medium-powered sniper rifle, because it would hurt more". I've been incendiary quite a bit, and still am fiery, yes, but I've also recognized a great many things and likely have a greater bulwark against doing something like this because I'm more aware, plus it would flat-out be wrong. It would also make future plans and survival (for myself and others) pretty inconvenient... and we can't have that. Now, I'm wondering if coworkers will be looking at me with greater scrutiny in light of the DC incident, as I've been speaking out a bit more with frustrations lately... (and a few coworkers have agreed with said frustrations). I'm sure I'm being profiled, and I'm not sure if anyone else is going to have that same scrutiny now. But honestly, some things about this shooter, reminds me of... me. Or at least, how I've been in the past and what could have happened if I hadn't been aware or protected or what-not. I haven't discounted the possibility of a disgruntled hunter deciding to hunt wildlife government people, or a coworker snapping. I've increasingly been getting negative vibes. Hence adding to the urgency of my exit. I can only wonder if anyone at that navy yard was getting strange feelings that something terrible was about to happen. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 257 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 19, 2013 12:32 PM
Numerous past incidents of inappropriate firearm use. Drank a lot. What Buddhist carries a gun @ all times? Somwthing v screwy about this guy. Interesting weird fact he apparently lived for some time in a texas town called WhiteSettlement. Working in a thai restaurant. Def wonder if something was planted in his brain! IP: Logged |
BlackSeraph Knowflake Posts: 404 From: PA, USA Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 19, 2013 07:28 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57603572/navy-yard-shooter-etched-messages-into-shotgun-used-in-massacre/ Two phrases carved into his shotgun according to this: "Better off this way" ...and here's the kicker: "My ELF weapon." ELF, isn't that Extreme Low Frequency, something mentioned prolifically in MK-ULTRA and similar mind control experimentation? This implies that he was fully aware of what he was doing and not a simple "hijacking" as I was theorizing. No known connection to the victims, I also hear... so now I'm convinced we're asking the wrong question. Not "Why did he do it?" Ask the question "What were any of the victims working on?" OR "What did any of the victims know?" Then, we shall be closer to the truth, I bet you. Also, the more I hear about what this guy was like and what he's experienced, the more parallels I'm starting to see between him and me. And I don't like it. Prayers/meditations, please. I suspect I've poked my head through the rabbit hole a little too far. IP: Logged |
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posted September 20, 2013 05:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by BlackSeraph: I forget offhand what the significance of the number 16 in numerology is, but that's the number of hours per day he was said to play violent video games.
Ok that is enough with this line of thinking... How many years (non-biblical) have humans been on the Earth? For how many of those years have we been killing each other for whatever reasons? Ok, now then, why is anyone placing any labels on anything 'Modern' as a cause? Video Games? you gotta be kidding me.. How long have we had them in comparison to how many years humans have blood lusted? FFS give me a break... (forgive my aggression, but I am ******* sick of this nonsense, as it can be blamed on things this simple is absurd.) Were people playing 'Call of Duty' or 'Grand Theft Auto' when the Crusades were going on... or any other blood spilling down through the ages? quote: Foot Soldier: "Hold on my King, I cannot attack the walls because I am about to get an Xbox achievement!"King: "Where did you plug it in? we don't have electricity during this time period..."
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NoRainNoRainbows Moderator Posts: 334 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 20, 2013 08:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by Mblake81: FFS give me a break... (forgive my aggression, but I am ******* sick of this nonsense, as it can be blamed on things this simple is absurd.) Were people playing 'Call of Duty' or 'Grand Theft Auto' when the Crusades were going on... or any other blood spilling down through the ages?
Do you own a video game company or something Mblake81 Aaah, my favorite, the simplistic CLICHED arguments once again 'but humans have been killing each other for aeons...leave the video games out of it!...and buy some more ' sorry but i believe that there are hundreds upon hundreds of science arguments now, tht prove yes playing video games, or computer games i have no idea what the 'official' name is, does cause some serious damage. and is addictive. i presume someone really listened to Warren Buffet when he had invested in cigarettes and alcohol as the best investments are those involve things 'people get addicted to' according to him. they managed this with computer games, if not from the story, then the colours, then the action etc A few healthy 20 something year olds have collapsed and died after long hours of playing these things continuously. Yes staring at a computer for long hours without moving and with eyes and the whole head tense...i do believe would cause damage. so ppl have always killed each other...what makes you think it didn't advance to the point where the human mind is 'hacked' so that the usual killers don't have to the work themselves? http://endthelie.com/2012/08/17/hack ing-the-human-brain-researchers-demonstrate-extraction-of-sensitive-data-via-brain-computer-interface/ http://www.livescience.com/17033-gamer-brain-reward-system.html and this from cracked but worth the read, notice number 3 'press the lever' http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to -get-you-addicted.html and many more articles i can't bother finding now, written by ppl who researched these things before writing them up. sorry MB81, i would'nt have said this, but because of your 'aggressive' tone, to two people who are always polite to others on this forum... i will say, i myself am sick and tired of listening to people who are stringing a list of incoherent cliches together, hoping to sound deep, but only sounding like they're mixing up apples with oranges! on the other hand with people who have families and all, i can see how scary these things can become or even the idea of them being real, as they don't usually have enough info to know that it can be turned into 'no big deal'...so yeah. @BlackSeraph, do calm down though!! you think too much. but also the 16 is the equivalent of the Tower card in the Tarot. It's a man falling down from the tower with the crown on his head (early success but later a fall...those with prominet 2's in their name and birth are safe from the ill effects though...those with prominent 9's...this is a disaster number for them...spirituality is supposed to save the person from the ill effects of the number to, but only if it's real, i.e from within bcoz the person felt like it, and not bcoz someone told them to do so...) interestingly last December early in the day before the Sandy Hook murders, i kept hearing Boomtown rats 'i don't like Mondays' in my head, even though i hadn't in years.....a song about young people shooting at schools and something in their head 'flipping' and these few days ....out of all 'music' things, England's "God Save the Queen" for some reasons? hmmm......or that could be the 'aftermath' of watching some sport things last week IP: Logged |
BlackSeraph Knowflake Posts: 404 From: PA, USA Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 20, 2013 06:27 PM
I wasn't saying I was buying the 16 hours of games as a reason, I was merely pointing out that that's being reported.And perhaps I do think too much, but I'd rather do that than not think enough. Anyhow... 16 is a Karmic Debt number, and I did find some info here: http://www.numerology.com/numerology-news/karmic-debt-numbers?page=0,2 From the link: "Karmic Debt number 16 The 16 Karmic Debt represents destruction of the old and birth of the new. The 16 is about the fall of the ego and all that it has built for itself; it is a cleansing. All that has been constructed and all that serves to separate the person from the source of life is destroyed. Through the 16, reunion with the great spirit is accomplished. This can be a painful process, because it usually comes after much ego inflation. Life presents challenges to your grand plans and you tend to make choices that seem specifically designed to break down what you have previously built -- a self-destructive career choice or an act of stupidity that ruins an otherwise wonderful relationship, for example. The 16 Karmic Debt is a lost battle and you will likely feel humbled in the face of the collapse that follows. But this humility is the key to later success, because you will learn to follow the intimations of a higher reality, approaching life with an entirely new awareness. It is a life much the better for the fall. Those with the 16 Karmic Debt must be careful of egoism. Very often, those with the 16 use their highly intuitive and refined intellect to look down upon others, and view the rest of the world as inferior, leading to acute alienation and loneliness. When the 16 is in one of the Core numbers, this process of destruction and rebirth is a continuous cycle that actually serves to bring you into higher consciousness. The 16 Karmic Debt can be a path of progress and great spiritual growth if it is looked at properly." Interesting that 16 would indeed be the number of the Tower, I'm all too familiar with that card. And 13, being the major trump number for Death, is eerily appropriate. IP: Logged |
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posted September 20, 2013 06:32 PM
Take away the video games and do you still have violence?Hell I don't care about the video games, I just do not think this will solve the problem, We still had violence before games so how do we explain that away with this argument? was it even the point the fix this problem that has been with us since the beginning? Take away the video games, sports, rough talking... hell have at it, I mean seriously take it all from the public.. not even a joke! I still think you would eventually have to come right back here to square one and admit that it didn't work. I mean a permanent fix to this, not a lousy bandaid!
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posted September 20, 2013 06:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by NoRainNoRainbows: sorry MB81, i would'nt have said this, but because of your 'aggressive' tone, to two people who are always polite to others on this forum... i will say, i myself am sick and tired of listening to people who are stringing a list of incoherent cliches together, hoping to sound deep, but only sounding like they're mixing up apples with oranges!
Zing quote: Originally posted by NoRainNoRainbows: so ppl have always killed each other...what makes you think it didn't advance to the point where the human mind is 'hacked' so that the usual killers don't have to the work themselves?
Yes. I can point to some history books and show killing and violence. If we never had video games of any sort, would the middle east war still have happened? Any war? How many wars have taken place in human history? Where did the idea for violent games come from? I honestly do not see games as being that big of a deal in the corporate world or in government offices where the fate of nations hang in the balance. Does President Obama play video games? If he does maybe we should ask him to put the controller down and make peace. IP: Logged |
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posted September 20, 2013 07:32 PM
Youtube Link "Hats Off To The Bull" All our needs put together Don't bleed on their own You're paid for an eyeful So behold the bull Why can't I look up, out in the clearing Tell me what's there below, end over end While he's safe for the moment, guess what I'm learning He's never safe from the crowd So hats off to the bull No giving up Either way, it makes ya mad Well some of us Hats off to the bull, keep giving all To be monumental Could mean the beyond The simpler the treasure Means the higher the cost Well as for the ending, damn right I'm learning You might ask for the door, end over end Well I hate how the clouds hide The gasps from above
So hats off to the bull No giving up Either way, it makes ya mad Well some of us Hats off to the bull, keep giving all Find your challenge, suffer miles Colors gray, he brings them out Don't mind the challenge, suffer miles A little shallow, if I don't say
Hats off to the bull His time ain't up Bitter hell in the lion's den For some of us Hats off to the bull The sun won't set Till the pain and the final breath
quote: Originally posted by NoRainNoRainbows: A few healthy 20 something year olds have collapsed and died after long hours of playing these things continuously.
quote: MK-Ultra again: DC Navalyard Shooting leaves 13 dead.
Maybe he should have died in a chair like the 20 somethings as it would have been a better outcome for those 13 people that day. IP: Logged |
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posted September 20, 2013 09:53 PM
Probably will never have that ideal peace you hear people talk of until everyone on the planet is killed that does not think and act the same. That would also mean they would be killers by default. Misunderstandings and Differences.
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NoRainNoRainbows Moderator Posts: 334 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 21, 2013 01:05 AM
I wouldn't know if Obama plays computer games or not...but this shooting wasn't war!we're talking about individuals flipping suddenly. I posted u a few links, science seems to agree that long hours of these can let a lone individual mix up reality with fantasy. do i think Obama plays computer games? no, he comes more across as a book reader to me. do i think some of the US soldiers who like wikileaks showed, kill civilians for sport...play a lot of computer games? definitely...they can no longer tell the difference between 'killing' a pixel, and killing real humans for fun. They are not the same as the men who fought in world war 2 or Vietnam at all! if Tesla had been working on trying to communicate with both aliens and the dead (he discovered a frequency to it, and was working on it)....then i have no doubt that those ppl supposedly on top, have found a way to 'hack' some people's brains and put info and orders there, so when they need to kill people on an individual basis, like in this shooting...they can find their 'man' and have them do their dirty work for them....then have the rest ponder on about that individual themselves, without seeing that his 'lifestyle' is just a piece of the puzzle not the whole picture. i do think individuals shooting randomly have increased over the last 10 years or so.....war is a whole different story. IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows Moderator Posts: 334 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 21, 2013 01:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by BlackSeraph: Interesting that 16 would indeed be the number of the Tower, I'm all too familiar with that card. And 13, being the major trump number for Death, is eerily appropriate.[/B]
definitely!.....the illudarkati do love their number 'sciences' the 9 'expands' anything, and even the number of the day is strange...if everything is reduced we get 22...a master number and the card of the fool. if am not wrong the 22 was the day earlier this year, that some real terrorist murdered a British soldier in May,the killer himself was 22. if we keep it as it is, and just reduce the year, we get 31....13 reversed. so yes this isn't as random as some may think it is at all! IP: Logged |
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posted September 21, 2013 11:23 AM
Are you trying to tell another grown adult that some other grown adults can not tell the difference between a computer game and reality?This is not the matrix movie. If this is true then Hollywood has really really got humans good hasn't it? How could I tell the difference between the world and something like umm, hell I don't know what is a recent popular movie or new york times best seller? Grown Adults cannot tell the difference between pixels, pages and people.. wow just wow Did anyone tell them one is on a tv screen or paper and the other is flesh and bone? Did these people attend any school at all? I mean really? IP: Logged |
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posted September 21, 2013 11:37 AM
To a fren named Oracle. quote: William the Conqueror 'The Normans would fight back-
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NoRainNoRainbows Moderator Posts: 334 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 21, 2013 12:05 PM
Hmmm...i've listed some articles for you that show research, to where i got my opinion from....and you put a gif of a punching bag, to back your opinion up.... seriously? Yes some people can stop telling reality from fantasy, that is a fact. or are personality disorders, and some types of mental illness, just another 'conspiracy theory' for you? i'm not sure why instead of wanting a discussion of the underlying factors which may have caused this person to kill all these...u have decided it's either because people have always killed each other...well...ummm...duh...and not all people, a lot of people have helped each other throughout history to!
or you don't want to put any other idea out, ... so okay lets presume computer games, were sent by the arch angel Michael to Earth, to give bored people something to do in their every living hour sometimes...and away from 'man has always killed man'...what do you think may have caused this man to do what he did? And do you believe the victims were random, or there is more to it?
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posted September 21, 2013 01:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by NoRainNoRainbows:
arch angel Michael to Earth
Why that particular one? I think I may have a clue. It won't work. Did the punching bag mean something else? *Note: My uncle at one point was locked in a padded room because he thought he had bugs crawling all over him. He would roll on the floor and it scared me as a child so I do know about mental illnesses. I remember during his better years we would play nintendo, something like duck hunt or mario brothers. He never got the two confused, even in later years when he started having bad episodes he never thought people were ducks or he could jump down tubes. I think you may be dealing with cannibalistic psychopaths more than just 'sick' people. These seem like normal people but they are not because they have no problem with what they are doing. No responsibility, complete lack of guilt. Hell, there are some teachings that say it is a mans duty to have no guilt and do whatever the hell he wants if he can do it to another(Darwin)as he who is strongest will take it. Be full of the ego and think you are the only one that matters. You do come into the world and leave it alone, you can also only die once. Go figure. Humans on the one hand are sane and logical... but on the other they are f**king crazy! I think the species as a whole could be schizophrenic.
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posted September 21, 2013 04:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by NoRainNoRainbows: ...and you put a gif of a punching bag, to back your opinion up.... seriously?
like it says, it's a shout out to an e-fren who might be reading this. It was not exactly to be used to back up any claims posted in anything above this one. quote: Originally posted by Mblake81: To a fren named Oracle.
He would get a chuckle out of this pic, so I post it. There was a time when me and him would duo newbs. Alas. I am a sentimental fool IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows Moderator Posts: 334 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 22, 2013 05:24 AM
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posted September 22, 2013 10:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by NoRainNoRainbows:
^ 'MB81, I like letting my guard down. whattya think aboot that?'
Get off my tip. IP: Logged |
BlackSeraph Knowflake Posts: 404 From: PA, USA Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 22, 2013 03:23 PM
^ Well I suppose that's one way to clear up a sinus infection...IP: Logged |
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posted September 22, 2013 03:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by BlackSeraph: ^ Well I suppose that's one way to clear up a sinus infection...
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1. Creation 2. Structure 3. Defense
quote: No rain means no rainbows or pots o' gold.
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NoRainNoRainbows Moderator Posts: 334 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 22, 2013 11:05 PM
mblake81 u get off this thread that u entered simply to spam ...oh and a few pills of advil, and bed rest usually help with the delirium fever you clearly suffer from. get well soon....and away from this thread!! IP: Logged |
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posted September 23, 2013 12:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by NoRainNoRainbows: mblake81 u get off this thread that u entered simply to spam ...oh and a few pills of advil, and bed rest usually help with the delirium fever you clearly suffer from. get well soon....and away from this thread!!
No, How about that. You can walk away from this thread just as easy as anyone or lock it down if you really think this is trolling. Unless this is a new account and you have a different one elsewhere, you will notice I have been here longer so you do not tell me what to do, say or think even if you are a mod or not. How about you leave. Do not talk about people with pissy direct attitudes when you came right off the bat at me with personal attacks when I was going after the damn video game notion.. Remember that! Actually a personal attack was in almost each of your posts. A higher ranking mod should do something about your attitude since you are here to be setting a 'higher social standard' with your mod responsibilities. IP: Logged |
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posted September 23, 2013 12:15 PM
Naval yard shooting and boston bombings are a waste of time.I would hard march 50-100,000 hickory switch wielding men through towns and cities. We would pull you from your offices and comfy homes to the street or front yards. We would then proceed to hold you and your loved ones to the ground and literally draw blood from your collective butts and thighs. You would remember this more than what has currently been going on. It would leave an impression so deep adults wouldn't be able to sit down properly for two days! IP: Logged | |