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nordicsoul
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posted September 16, 2014 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a strange question, but I have the feeling that some people bodies has no soul or has something different than the different type of soul.. not sure what i am talking about..

and in my opinion.. these people dont look at the eyes, as we could discover they are not as we are...

I have a newphew who is visiting and me after many years of not seeing him. and although i feel there is some pain inside that can reveal a human that has become shallow to protect himself, i also see a lack of compassion for what happens in the world.. lack of interest in the real values of life.. i guess you know what i am talking..all the superficial stuff that attract many people such as money and luxuries. he is not in drugs nor a thief or anything, but he lack this connection to life that is beyond the superficial.. he admires bankers and whoever has money..

anyway... is there anything i should look for lack of sould in a chart. is there anything i cann look that explain why he cannot look in the eyes?

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deepseablues
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posted September 16, 2014 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't tell you what aspects to look for in the chart, but how can you be certain he is not into any type of drugs? Especially if you had not seen him for years... Drug addicts are the best liars there are, it is basically their profession, they are also so good at it because they lie to themselves. People who you would not suspect or don't even look like it can be in far deeper than you would ever think. I can tell you from personal experience, watching family members and my ex partner turn into people I no longer knew or recognized, that not being able to hold eye contact is a classic sign of some sort of drug use, even if it's just marijuana and especially if it's something heavier. I think they feel a guilt inside that they try to escape from by avoiding eye contact and drugs are the biggest soul destroyers out there. They LITERALLY change consciousness (particularly coke, crack, meth and heroin) and literally change the soul inside, and also allow for easier possession of the body/mind by lower soul entities/pieces. Drugs will change someone you think you know better than anyone into a complete stranger and you won't know it until it is too late. It is the most heartbreaking and painful thing one can ever watch/experience, not only because of the lack of care for what they are doing/how they are affecting the people closest to them in their lives, but also because of the lack of care they have for themselves and their own lives, no matter how much you love them, it won't help them stop, they have to find the reasons in themselves. Don't ever underestimate their power (drugs) or think you may know if someone is or isn't using.
Just one of many personal examples, I had a step mom growing up who was a heavy coke, crack, and meth user for many years. She was an elementary school teacher. The people teaching your kids could be doing heavy drugs, for years, and no one knows...
I have seen things akin to this documentary: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/ben-diary-heroin-addict/
See how much love this person has in his family. He is like a double personality.

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Randall
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posted September 17, 2014 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 18, 2014 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hope he heals.

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nordicsoul
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posted September 18, 2014 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by deepseablues:
I can't tell you what aspects to look for in the chart, but how can you be certain he is not into any type of drugs? Especially if you had not seen him for years... Drug addicts are the best liars there are, it is basically their profession, they are also so good at it because they lie to themselves. People who you would not suspect or don't even look like it can be in far deeper than you would ever think. I can tell you from personal experience, watching family members and my ex partner turn into people I no longer knew or recognized, that not being able to hold eye contact is a classic sign of some sort of drug use, even if it's just marijuana and especially if it's something heavier. I think they feel a guilt inside that they try to escape from by avoiding eye contact and drugs are the biggest soul destroyers out there. They LITERALLY change consciousness (particularly coke, crack, meth and heroin) and literally change the soul inside, and also allow for easier possession of the body/mind by lower soul entities/pieces. Drugs will change someone you think you know better than anyone into a complete stranger and you won't know it until it is too late. It is the most heartbreaking and painful thing one can ever watch/experience, not only because of the lack of care for what they are doing/how they are affecting the people closest to them in their lives, but also because of the lack of care they have for themselves and their own lives, no matter how much you love them, it won't help them stop, they have to find the reasons in themselves. Don't ever underestimate their power (drugs) or think you may know if someone is or isn't using.
Just one of many personal examples, I had a step mom growing up who was a heavy coke, crack, and meth user for many years. She was an elementary school teacher. The people teaching your kids could be doing heavy drugs, for years, and no one knows...
I have seen things akin to this documentary: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/ben-diary-heroin-addict/
See how much love this person has in his family. He is like a double personality.

he is not in drugs.. actually he is proud of not being in drugs.. he is social and can easily start conversation with people.. and not timid at all. that is why i was surprised to notice he doesnt hold my eyes look... however, he takes lot of things for the body (into bodybuilding), but he doesnt take steroids.. so not sure if any of these pills he takes can be the culprit or something else i cannot figure out

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posted September 19, 2014 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's good about drugs.

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posted September 19, 2014 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not to be annoying and try to push the drug thing too much, but from the description you've just given, I'd say its even more of a possibility he is using some sort of drug and don't think you should totally rule it out as a possibility.
For one, people who are social are even more likely to do some sort of drug, coke and amphetamines are extremely social drugs, and coke is also sort of a rich person's drug in a lot of ways. Many bankers, politicians, businesspeople, celebrities etc are doing coke, in varying quantities, and how many people admit, oh yes, I'm a drug user? I've known drug addicts that are "proud to be clean" only to find out later they are not so clean... And with body work etc, coke/amphetamines would give tons of extra energy/burn fat... hence why those diet pills are often full of amphetamines... but it doesn't say it on the label. Rich kids at Catholic schools are snorting coke, how many young people party on the weekend and dabble in some coke or E, then when their parents or relatives ask them what they did on the weekend, say oh you know, I went to a party and did some coke? I knew a guy when I was in high school who was a pro speed cyclist, competed all the time, practiced all the time, even made it to national races and placed very highly, his parents thought he was a goody two-shoes, but everyone who REALLY knew him knew he was the biggest MDMA user (and mushrooms) in school. His parents didn't have a clue and to this day probably don't. My ex managed to hold on to his high paying managerial type job for a year of using heroin after his relapse, before it all fell apart (heroin tends to be harder to hide, get more pulled into it, costs more, money wise and takes a harder toll on the body) but still it was a year into the relapse before it all came out, also he came across as WAY more friendly and sociable/outgoing than me, could do the small talk with anyone (I can't do small talk at all) yet he was the one who was/is a user. In fact you kind of have to be somewhat sociable/outgoing to use drugs at all, how else are you going to get the confidence to talk to the people you need to get the drugs from? Whereas loner/recluses like me don't have enough confidence to call up/strike up a convo with these people even if we WANTED the drugs (which I don't) but if I did, I wouldn't be outgoing or sociable enough to find out who has them, or the confidence to talk to them. And as I said before, coke and amphetamines are THE social/party drugs, no one really wants to do those alone, gives one too much energy and too much to say.
How many celebrities do we find out are using coke, or even the more dangerous, less sociable heroin, yet look how outgoing they all are, it's only when they get caught or take it too far (usually with heroin as coke overdoses are more rare) do we hear about it and find out that they are. None of them admit to it, rockstars, movie stars, athletes etc. They are all sociable, into money and image. Then there is the ease with lying, its second nature and they already have all the excuses prepared so there is no hesitation when you do notice something iffy and question. The response it so quick and sure you just think, oh they must be telling the truth they didn't even hesitate.
I just think it can't be ruled out as a possibility unless you have seen a clean drug test, and even then, there are ways around those if given enough time. A lot of pro athletes know how to get around the drug testing so they appear clean. It would just suck for you to totally believe him and then be heartbroken if you found out the truth one day because you couldn't even consider the possibility. How much can we ever truly know someone? I bet there are things you might not even admit to if asked by certain people. We all want to believe in the good in people, but sometimes it's also good to keep possibilities in mind without accusing, because you really can never know.
I basically baby-sat my ex for two years trying to help him get clean and he STILL found out ways around it. Unless you watch someone every second of the day, how can you KNOW?

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