posted April 23, 2015 09:18 AM            

Unless you are a TRUE Follower of Jesus's teachings, you should NOT participate.

This is about the Gospels...vs.. Old Testament

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1) Have you noticed how "God" in the Old Testament, is...

>> COMPLETELY at ODDS.. with Jesus's teachings ??

2)Have you noticed , ...how popular (contemporary) reference to
"Judeo/Christianity"? is.. ACTUALLY
an
>>OXYMORON ?<<<

OLD TESTAMENT GOD ( eg followers -"Zionists" today)

-REVENGE & PUNISHMENT.
-BLOODTHIRSTY
-DEMANDING BLOOD SACRIFICES
-KILLING
-GENOCIDAL
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BUT in NEW TESTAMENT :

God, whom Jesus spoke of, -

"OUR FATHER"
MERCIFUL
KIND
FORGIVING.

-HOW UTTERLY DIFFERENT! IRRECONCILABLE!

3) & THIS only proves and further CONFIRMS that - Satan (the DECEIVER) is ruling our World today!

For EXAMPLE : Contemporary ISRAEL = the "FALSE JEWS" mentioned in Bible !!

ISRAEL "Jews" have ( NOW PROVEN BY SCIENCE)NOTHING,
WHATSOEVER, - ACTUAL BLOOD DNA,to do with/
RELATED TO ANCIENT BIBLICAL "Israelites"!!

Their DNA shows that they are ancient Turkish/Khazarian blood.

= ie NOT "SEMETIC"
* = Deception!

TODAY'S "ANTI SEMETISM" Claims are A LIE!!
Because 98% of Israelis (ie of today's "Israel"/Jews) have NO DNA/blood ties to ancient biblical times/lands!

"ANTI SEMETISM" is, in reality
a Fraud-
- used to CONTROL/enslave the World..
(by the Satanic controlled)

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ISRAEL of today is FRAUD.

( "Synagogue of Satan").
JUST as described and quoted by JESUS !
John8:44-45

"Ye are of your Father the Devil,and the lusts of your Father ye will do.
He was a murderer from the beginning And abode not in the Truth, because there is no Truth in him, When he speaketh of a lie he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it."

WELL!
LOOK AT HOW THEY STOLE LAND OF, & MURDER Palestinians (who are TRUE Semetics) in GAZA, esp children !!

Today, these FAKE FALSE"JEWS"
1) Own/Control WORLD BANKING
2) thus all nations via their fraudulent one world ( fiat banking system)
3) Own /control ALL nearly all public info- Mainstream Media, TV, Radio, Google/Facebook/Wikipedia etc
4) Own /control Hollywood/BBC /Nearly ALL film industry,
Books/Publishing Industry..

Thus influence & control peoples minds.

Satan RULES the World today.

Just as in Jesus time, those who sought to have him executed (murdered) , those same ones STILL are around today as even bigger threat to humanity.

STILL SAME BATTLE TODAY= GOOD vs EVIL.

ZIONISTS (=EVIL VENGEFUL/MURDEROUS/ GENOCIDAL GOD)
eg how Israel murders eg: Gaza peoples -ESPECIALLY CHILDREN (shot through the head & heart deliberately aimed)
Israel total control of USA = billions of USA tax money per year to Israel
Israel has built a HUGE armory of Nuclear Weapons themselves !!
-YET..induces USA to embark on bombing of Iraq (millions killed) for same reason (tho fraudulent: NO weapons ever found)..
Israel did 9/11. (overwhelming proof)

VS

CHRIST JESUS's GOD (FORGIVING MERCIFUL KIND LOVING)
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You can clearly see the "ANTI CHRISTS" in force today..

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WHO ELSE is out there who also has seen through all the extensive lies/brainwashing/ social programming..that has happened especially via TV, movies .(not called "PROGRAMMING " for nothing )

posted April 23, 2015 08:23 PM            

While it starts off contrasting the Old and New Testament (technically the gospels only without the writings attributed to St. Paul) which belongs here it quickly veers off to Jewish conspiracies behind 9/11 and to control the world (btw, compare to the ideas of the Christian Identity movement and well as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which I was reminded of reading this) along with coverups by the governments of the world and scientific community. You could easily replace "Zionist" here with "Illuminati." As far as I can tell he just sets up the religious components so he can say you're of the devil (and also brainwashed) if you challenge his ideas. That is you're with him or against him and if challenged he intends to fall back on the Bible instead of actual reason (and the reason he only wants "Christians" since he knows that won't work on anyone else).

I'm almost certainly going to move this in a day or so unless Randall tells me otherwise or someone can show me how this is actually more about theology rather than global conspiracies.

posted April 24, 2015 08:27 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
This actually belongs in Spider Line.

While it starts off contrasting the Old and New Testament (technically the gospels only without the writings attributed to St. Paul) which belongs here it quickly veers off to Jewish conspiracies behind 9/11 and to control the world (btw, compare to the ideas of the Christian Identity movement and well as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which I was reminded of reading this) along with coverups by the governments of the world and scientific community. You could easily replace "Zionist" here with "Illuminati." As far as I can tell he just sets up the religious components so he can say you're of the devil (and also brainwashed) if you challenge his ideas. That is you're with him or against him and if challenged he intends to fall back on the Bible instead of actual reason (and the reason he only wants "Christians" since he knows that won't work on anyone else).

I'm almost certainly going to move this in a day or so unless Randall tells me otherwise or someone can show me how this is actually more about theology rather than global conspiracies.

Btw, if anyone is intrigued by these theories you might want to check out the novel The Prague Cemetary.

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Pixie Jane - Have YOU EVER studied Jesus Christ's TRUE teachings??? - I would say not!!!

>>THANKS for HIJACKING & KILLING this thread<<<

- based on your assumptions and misunderstanding of what it's about.(-did you notice me saying NOT to participate UNLESS you're a true follower of Christ???!)

The important POINT I was HOPING to make,
is that Christians today the world over are CONDONING EVIL..eg by ISRAEL - mass slaughter of Palestinans-(especially the children, whom the Israelis are DELIBERATELY TARGETING)
Eg SEE HERE- http://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.co.nz/2015/04/picture-proof-that-is rael-deliberately.html

They are CONDONING this,
because of their MISTAKEN BELIEF in

a)the "OLD TESTAMENT" GENOCIDAL GOD - who is the OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ & gospels.
b) that the State of Israel today is somehow related to the ancient "israelites" in the Bible. Truth is -it is NOT!

Judaism /Torah is OLD TESTAMENT. They believe in the right to mass slaughter and genocide, (ie MIGHT MAKES RIGHT) because that is who/what the Old Testament God is all about.
(Noteworthy that they also DISMISS & even DESPISE Jesus Christ, because His teachings are the opposite of what they revel in.)

Christian Churches today have been infiltrated and corrupted, and they are NOT abiding by JESUS CHRISTS TRUE teachings.

The reason of my mentioning Zionists is because they are OLD TESTAMENT GENOCIDAL GOD believers.
So called Jewish/illuminati conspiracy is TOTALLY SELF EVIDENT PROOF of their belief in that God, whom they believe gave them the right -as "Chosen ones". This CAN CLEARLY BE SEEN being carried out today. FACT is they DO run the world today, as well as create wars deliberately to achieve their aim.

I was hoping to engage the minds of those who consider themselves as "Christians", in order to point out & HIGHLIGHT their blindness.

"All that is necessary for Evil to triumph is that good men do nothing"

posted April 24, 2015 10:41 PM            

Bottom line is, if you want to discuss theology that discussed the differences between Old and New Testament without a bunch of references to the modern world that is clearly political, then post it at DD. OTOH, if you want to post about modern day Israel (which is far more complicated than just some religious texts) then post it on Global Unity...I might even make some popcorn to watch you and jwhop hash it out. And if you want to talk about both with a focus on global domination by Satanic elites or Jewish Illuminati/Zionists as the bulk of your thread is with carefully selected political events and religious texts then do it here in Spider Line.

posted April 25, 2015 12:17 PM            

To address your post, this answer is needed to root out subjective from objective.

posted April 26, 2015 12:03 PM            

He spent 4 years with Bernhard Frank and when he gathered all the info he needed, presented it in a speech to Israel and spoke of how he wanted to sue him for his role in the holocaust which was signing the document to initiate the killings.

But when he presented it the Jewish officials reacted like they wanted him to be quiet. They didn't want this information aired or known. Mark found out they were trying to protect Bernard. Then they proceeded to bash Marks name in the New York Times which is corrupt too. When they tried to destroy his name he found it compelling how sloppy they did it and they didn't present any facts. Like they didn't even see him as a real threat and just wanted to shut him up and felt that was enough to make him go away. But now Mark is writing a book about how the Holocaust was done by the Jews themselves and the real conspiracy behind this manipulative control.

posted April 26, 2015 01:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
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Randall and Mods, can someone please close this thread already? This is getting beyond ridiculous. Does LL really need to give such views a platform?

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What do you mean by such views? Is this something that threatens everything you have been taught? Sorry but for Randall to close this thread just means that you and everyone else isn't open to researching things and being open minded.

You can say this is ridiculous. But I can say the way you believe is ridiculous as well. Who would be correct?

posted April 26, 2015 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
What do you mean by such views? Is this something that threatens everything you have been taught? Sorry but for Randall to close this thread just means that you and everyone else isn't open to researching things and being open minded.

You can say this is ridiculous. But I can say the way you believe is ridiculous as well. Who would be correct?

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athenegoddess,

it threatens nothing at all, because these claims are very easy to prove wrong (and have been proven so many times already, which is accepted by all sane people knowledgeable in the matter) - and I haven't been "taught" anything - I happen to actually live in the area of the world where all this took place, so, have had the opportunity to talk to survivors and to contemporary eyewitnesses, to examine physical remains of the camps, to see original photographs... the traces of the crime are everywhere in central Europe. So are the Nazi archives which contain detailed evidence of the plans and the progress of exterminating not just Jews, but also, Communists, Homosexuals, Roma, the mentally ill, and other groups deemed "unfit". Were they also part of your supposed "conspiracy", btw?

Bottom line, there's an overwhelmingly large body of evidence coming from a multitude of sources to the effect that the nazis orchestrated the holocaust (which they never denied, quite on the contrary), and most of those who were later caught and tried for it didn't deny this either, some were even very proud of their accomplishment.

This evidence btw consists of...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial:
- Written documents—hundreds of thousands of letters, memos, blueprints, orders, bills, speeches, articles, memoirs, and confessions.
- Eyewitness testimony—accounts from survivors, Jewish Sonderkommandos (who helped load bodies from the gas chambers into the crematoria in exchange for a chance of survival), SS guards, commandants, local townspeople, and even high-ranking Nazis who spoke openly about the mass murder of the Jews.
- Photographs—including official military and press photographs, civilian photographs, secret photographs taken by survivors, aerial photographs, German and Allied film footage, and unofficial photographs taken by the German military.
- The camps themselves—concentration camps, work camps, and extermination camps that still exist in varying degrees of originality and reconstruction.
- Inferential evidence or argument from silence — population demographics, reconstructed from the pre–World War II era; if six million Jews were not killed, what happened to them?

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Have you ever thought that you, a youngish American likely without any first-hand experience of the matter you're talking about, might not be in a very good position (geographically and otherwise) to judge the reality of these claims? Or, that there might much rather be a "conspiracy" behind those few people who again and again try to brainwash others with holocaust denial claims such as the ones you posted? Who, do you think, has to gain the most from these claims? Think about it - if you can, and if it doesn't "threaten" everything you've been "taught" by THEM.

posted April 26, 2015 02:49 PM            

May the light open your sight to the truth.

posted April 26, 2015 03:01 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Ok my dear. Just because Wikipedia says the Nazis committed the Holocaust, doesn't mean they weren't controlled by a higher power to do so in order to give humanity a certain perception/lens that they wanted humanity to have in a way to control their feelings and minds.

May the light open your sight to the truth.

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^So what's it going to be now? Higher powers orchestrated the Holocaust by proxy using the Nazis, or was it the Jews after all? This sound a little incoherent to say the least…unless the Jews themselves *are* these higher powers? Please explain.