posted March 20, 2016 06:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
When was that?

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the was found in 1977 by the photo. it was not allowed to be visited because of the political climate then .the area of mt arat where it was found was closed because of the political tensions.

todd

posted March 21, 2016 03:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
That was so long ago, we will never know if it was a hoax or not.

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I don't know, as I recall the outline of a hull with the proper length was imprinted in the soil. ribbing where the of the planks had been were distinct.

there was another report ,I don't remember exactly how long that showed a rectilinear object half embedded in he ice of mt Arat.as I recall a researcher visited the site and found the arc. he took samples of timber back for analysis but was never allowed back into the area ,again because of cold war political agendas.

posted March 21, 2016 07:02 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I don't think it was a hoax. They did scientific testing and basically confirmed it is noahs ark.

The CIA even has documents on it but they will not deny or confirm it is noahs ark.

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the story of Noah goes back to the sumerians. there an almost exact tale about the flood, the ark(identical dimensions) and the landing at mt arat. the only difference was that the Sumerian noah had a guide to steer them toward mt arat.

rahu

posted March 21, 2016 11:01 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I personally think the flood was caused by the last pole shift which destroyed Atlantis 12,000 years ago. I also think the Pyramids and the Sphinx have been around since then. But I think it states this happened to Noah 5,000 years ago... how long ago were the Sumerians around? One thing they didn't do was state how old the remains are.

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I don't think it was a pole shift because that wuld be detectable by geological survey. I think there was an collision of some sort that caused the water to appear. if you read the account in the bible ,you will find that the waters first burst asunder from the foundations of the earth. the rains began after all this water had already appeared and cause chaos in the atmosphere. it is also interesting though I can't put a time scale on it, all the great lakes and including the Mediterranean sea were formed virtually over might. the Mediterranean was over a 1000 ft lower. they have found the remnants of sea shores at the bottom of the Mediterranean. Apparently the straits of Gibraltar were sealed off from the ocean, then the earth gave way and it is estimated it took 1000 ears for the Mediterranean to fill up.
the ural sea was also created in a similar why.waters poured in over the existing body of water. the Caspian sea is the same. waters poured in over the exist low sea.all these happened almost instanteously on a geological scale so it seems to me they all occurred at he time of the food.
todd

posted March 22, 2016 04:00 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Well what about them finding sea shells on mountain tops? Wouldn't that be proof of that mountain being under water at one point in time?

They do acknowledge pole shifts but they call it climate change and they don't like the idea of the earth doing it rapidly because that thought is scary. However they have found tropical animals in Antarctica that were in tact. How can that be possible without a rapid pole shift occurring?

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I totally agree that there have been catastrophic changes that raise and lower the earth's surface. I might be a little to picky. I was think of pole reversal which is found in the geological record to occur hundreds of thousands of years apart. but you said pole shift and I agree this has happened much more recently. yuo should read velikovsky. a recent shift happened within the last several thousand years. this is shown by all the mastodons and buried in the ice above the arctic circle in arc that runs from Canada to Siberia. these animals were frozen where they stood by a sudden shift of the arctic pole some 1000 miles to the south. some of these frozen buried animals have tropical vegetation still in their mouths, showing the change from topics to artic occurred suddenly and completely.
there have been many reports for hundreds of years of people digging out these frozen animals and eating their flesh as it was flash frozen and still good.
todd

posted March 22, 2016 07:03 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Well what about them finding sea shells on mountain tops? Wouldn't that be proof of that mountain being under water at one point in time?

They do acknowledge pole shifts but they call it climate change and they don't like the idea of the earth doing it rapidly because that thought is scary. However they have found tropical animals in Antarctica that were in tact. How can that be possible without a rapid pole shift occurring?

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another interesting fact is that in the 19th century 80% of the ivory used statues,billard balls instruments etc etc,this ivory was mined from above the artic circle.
explorers found huge number of islands above the arctic circle that were essentially bones compacted with sand/earth.the ivory came from these sources. so how did such a fantastic amount ivory bones end up on arctic islands?again you might like to read velikovsky's books :"worlds in collision,earth in upheaval, ages in chaos."

velikovsky gives the radical scientific answer to these geological engimas.
todd