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SDragon
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posted July 09, 2016 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Wikipedia:

The contemporary term false flag describes covert operations that are designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them.

Historically, the term "false flag" has its origins in naval warfare where the use of a flag other than the belligerent's true battle flag before (but not while) engaging the enemy has long been accepted as a permissible ruse de guerre; by contrast, flying a false flag while engaging the enemy constitutes perfidy.

Operations carried out during peace-time by civilian organizations, as well as covert government agencies, can (by extension) also be called false flag operations if they seek to hide the real organization behind an operation.

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I haven't really decided either way but for any free-thinker that wants to consider all the facts, there are many sources out there:

Sandy Hooks False Flag
Orlando False Flag
Dallas False Flag

Another view isn't necessarily that the events were not real, but that information and facts regarding the events were withheld or altered in order to align with the elites' agenda.

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posted July 09, 2016 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll drop another log to the fire - if one wants to draw conclusions about human behaviour, one must conduct an experiment in real conditions.

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posted July 09, 2016 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't heard that term before, it's something to think about.

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posted July 10, 2016 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting this.

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posted July 11, 2016 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I heard Sandy Hooks was faked and used actors.

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posted July 12, 2016 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm convinced that at least PART of Sandy Hook was faked, but I don't know how much or why.

I sound like a horrible person, saying I don't believe that story. As if I have a sick agenda. But I don't have an agenda. The crisis acting was just too easy for researchers to spot. I mean they totally blew it. It's almost like someone wanted to set up a division between the people who knew it was fake, and those who totally believed it, to foment more civil unrest over gun control (notice how often Sandy Hook is mentioned in conjunction with gun control?)

9-11 is "the new pearl harbor" and definitely a false flag event, I have no doubt whatsoever. Again, I don't know all the particulars, it's impossible to, I just know we were MASSIVELY LIED TO.

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posted July 12, 2016 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
I'm convinced that at least PART of Sandy Hook was faked, but I don't know how much or why.

I sound like a horrible person, saying I don't believe that story. As if I have a sick agenda. But I don't have an agenda. The crisis acting was just too easy for researchers to spot. I mean they totally blew it. It's almost like someone wanted to set up a division between the people who knew it was fake, and those who totally believed it, to foment more civil unrest over gun control (notice how often Sandy Hook is mentioned in conjunction with gun control?)

9-11 is "the new pearl harbor" and definitely a false flag event, I have no doubt whatsoever. Again, I don't know all the particulars, it's impossible to, I just know we were MASSIVELY LIED TO.


Manipulation at its height. How many people still believe all of this? I mention it to some select few and I'm amazed at how willing they are to accept it all as truth. I wonder how much delusion is related to their charts vs that of the event chart. Who knows. Massively lied to for sure.

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posted July 13, 2016 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw something on Pinterest that the SH shooter couldn't be the shooter, because according to his social security death record he died a day before the shooting.
And also that the school was closed two years earlier, so it was not in operation at the time.
Sounds like a plot from 'Wag the dog'...

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posted July 13, 2016 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Test

pS. Trying to post, looks like it's creating a page... and nothing shows up in the thread...,weeeeird

Edit: ok it's fine now, posts are showing up...

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posted July 13, 2016 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
actually a American wars since thespanishamerican war have used false flags to prod the American people into accepting war.
Spanish amercian war. the battle ship maine was not blown up from the outside. after salvaging it 20 years ago, it was found the explosion was from the inide , it ahd been scuttled .

ww1: the Lusitania has sunk by the germans but later it was shown it had been carrying ammunitionand therefore was fair game to be sunk. but these facts were withheld and used to get America into ww1.

one false flag that history has expunged from memory was used to get the united states to renounce the neutrality act which kept the USA from aiding either side in a war.

New York Times sept 7,1939 5:1,set 9 7:2-6, sep 20 19:3,

At 7:45PM on Sunday September 3rd 1939,200 mi west of Ireland the passenger ship, Athenia,with over a 1000 passengers ,wa sunk with a lost of 100-200 people. It was reported to have been hit by a torpedo and subsequently the sub surface and fired a round through the engine room.
But this is not straight forward, the germans responded with a list of 10 questions as they were being blamed obviously. Among the hard facts the germans raised were; why was there not SOS given when the ship was sunk. No listening stations heard anything. Another question was why was this not reported when it occurred on the 3rd but till the 6th.furthur not one witness among the passengers saw a sub break to the surface, not one witness heard the shooting, not one witness saw any of the damage caused by these “rounds”
This was a blatant provocation and the Germans were making their point. The last question was a knife to the point, How long after Winston Churchill become lord of the admiralty, did this sinking happen????
Churchill had been appointed the day of the sinking.
Winston Churchill who the editors of history remember as such a able and just politician was accused of sinking the athenia to push England into the war.

A sailor in the boiler room at the time said he heard a blast on the outside of aft of the ship.
This went on til NYT Oct 21 3:8 when an American investigative team gave their report and issued editorials.
These are some direct quotations, others were a bit enraged.
“the british admiralty deliberately laid hands in the ship to bolster anti-german propaganda”
“Churchill deliberately plotted the asthenia’s destruction”
“only in present day England could this man be tolerated in such a exalted office. How long will Britain cover this man with her name”

So the mythical Winston Churchill’s rise was bathed in blood of innocents.

There are additional articles from the new York times that explain the circumstance in more detail.
Proganda minister Goebbels, NYT Oct 23 1939,
wanted to know why Churchill had lied and said a torpedo sank the athenia. It turns out that after the athenia was hit and starting leaning over, the boat was abandoned. But it did not sink as crews from adjacent navy vessels closed the hatches to the leaking compartments and the athenia righted itself and stopped sinking. So about 14 hours later the admiralty told the commanders to sink the athenia with gun fire. Which they did. So the question remained, why had Churchill lied and said a torpedo sank the athenia. And then the question of torpedo came up and once again no survivor saw a u boat or heard a uboat fire on the athenia. The only eye witness said that when she was in the life boat, she saw a submarine periscope pass so close to the life boat that she could have swatted it or some such.
Then there was an affidavit presented by a illinois travel agent out of evanston, gustav a. anderson to the state department .NYT oct 18, 6:4 1939( node 29libra18)
,he was on the ship and had 3 friends who were working on the athenia and they told him there were ammunitions down below and that the hull had been reinforced with more beams to take the extra load.the munitions were for coastal defence in Canada and the athenia was to be outfitted as a raider ship while there.
Dr Goebbels also was interested in how a hit from a torpedo did NOT ship the athenia because the athenia was a relatively, small, unarmored ship and single torpedos had sunk some of the largest british warships already in the war.
It seems on further research this was a false flag. And it worked as I noted, as roosevely used this to have the neutrality act changed so that u.s. citizens could travel and deal with opponents in war.
Every time Churchill opened his mouth he was found out to be lying it seems
NYTSept 27 1:4
Churchill spoke of a uboat commander who personally wired him at ther admiralty about the sinking of a ship. Churchill continued that the german commander was now in custody.
But NYTSept 29 4:6
Lt. capt H Schultz sat for an interview with the cbs affiliate in berlin, in which he explained the incident. It was he who sent the wire to Churchill. In it he named the ship he had sunk and gave the coordinates, 9N and 9W. it seems Churchill can not stop from embellishing the “truth” at the least.
Just as the sinking the maine , the sinking of the lusitania ,sinking of the athenia ,bay of Tonkin resolution, and 9/11….false flags have always been used to push the reluctant American citizens into a fallacious foreign wars.

Churchills infamous action worked as was expected and president Roosevel,ready and on cue, on the 7th of september called for the Neutrality Act to be reconsidered before congress. This Act was the reason Roosevelt could not go to war.
The Act was reconsidered and it was changed so as to allow further U,S. involvement with the european wars.

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posted July 13, 2016 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Novabronte:
I saw something on Pinterest that the SH shooter couldn't be the shooter, because according to his social security death record he died a day before the shooting.
And also that the school was closed two years earlier, so it was not in operation at the time.
Sounds like a plot from 'Wag the dog'...

It was a psychological operation to put into motion the appeal of our 2nd amendment. Many of those shootings were/are. Awful.

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posted July 17, 2016 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
I'm convinced that at least PART of Sandy Hook was faked, but I don't know how much or why.

I sound like a horrible person, saying I don't believe that story. As if I have a sick agenda. But I don't have an agenda. The crisis acting was just too easy for researchers to spot. I mean they totally blew it. It's almost like someone wanted to set up a division between the people who knew it was fake, and those who totally believed it, to foment more civil unrest over gun control (notice how often Sandy Hook is mentioned in conjunction with gun control?)

9-11 is "the new pearl harbor" and definitely a false flag event, I have no doubt whatsoever. Again, I don't know all the particulars, it's impossible to, I just know we were MASSIVELY LIED TO.



http://humansarefree.com/2015/10/fbi-report-no-deaths-at-sandy-hook.html#more

FBI Report: No Deaths at Sandy Hook

In a shocking report released this week, the FBI is admitting that the 2012 Sandy Hook School shooting was not a shooting at all.

It was an exercise that local media misreported on, and then government officials perpetuated the hoax in hopes of bringing about gun control legislation.

Many questions regarding why "parents" were laughing, first responders were not going in and out of the school and later no medical personnel were permitted are now answered.

Government officials at the highest levels began giving orders to ensure that it was treated as a real event and not the training exercise it actually was.


According to the FBI's own data, the White House appears to have manufactured a crisis. And they were just caught red-handed.

In a video produced over a year ago, Sandy Hook was revealed as an exercise. Thankfully the government has finally come clean.

Video here:


The FBI's report can be found by clicking here. (Scroll down to Newtown and you'll find that 0 people were killed in that city in calendar year 2012).

(IMAGE OF REPORT HERE IN CASE IT IS ALTERED LATER ON)


What an admission.

I have but one question. Why the hell is the mainstream media (to include Fox News) not reporting on this? I believe that it is because none of them want to admit they were duped. Or it could be a much more sinister reason.


Recently the FBI released crime statistics showing that no murders occurred in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012 – the Sandy Hook Shooting – despite the media reporting that numerous schoolchildren and faculty were killed that December.

One lead investigator of Sandy Hook, Major William Podgorski, recently died suddenly of undisclosed causes at 49. Podgorski took with an illness and was taken to the hospital, had surgery and died without cause being known.

Another investigator, Wolfgang W. Halbig, a former state trooper, US customs agent and national school safety consultant, has openly stated that ‘Sandy Hook was a scripted event, at least two years in planning.’

Halbig outlined a great many inconsistencies and irregular activities on the part of responders that has contributed to the belief that Sandy Hook was a false flag event.

The investigation took an odd turn earlier this year when national school safety consultant Wolfgang Halbig was visited and threatened at his home by homicide detectives after he began reporting on additional inconsistencies in the Sandy Hook narrative, which he believes prove the shooting to be fabricated.

Among 16 questions which Halbig says are key to unlocking the Sandy Hook mystery, Halbig asks:

“Why and for what reason would the FBI classify the SHES shooting when they did not classify the Columbine shooting which also was an Active Shooter Mass Casualty Incidents (AS/MCI)?”
Additionally, Halbig questioned why no trauma helicopters were ever summoned to the school, and why paramedics and EMTs weren’t allowed to enter the building to try to save lives.

Today we know the reason. It was an exercise for first responders to prepare for an active shooter situation.

One final observation. If President Obama knew, and he most certainly did, that this "event" was simply an exercise, then lying to Congress, the American public, and others in an attempt to pass legislation to curb our 2nd Amendment rights may rise to the level of High Crimes as required by our Constitution for impeachment.

There just needs to be one brave member of Congress to investigate this and introduce articles of impeachment.

Who will that be?

Please share this story with as many people as possible. The mainstream media is not going to get it out there. Therefore it's our job as American Patriots.

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posted July 18, 2016 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks todd.

That FBI website looks real.

0 murders in Newtown in 2012.

Hmmmm

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posted July 18, 2016 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was the nail in the coffin for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVbwG8_qloA

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posted July 18, 2016 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://humansarefree.com/2016/07/fake-cia-agent-fox-news-terror-expert.html#more

A man who falsely claimed for decades to be a CIA agent and worked as the FOX News “Terror Expert” has now been sentenced to 33 months in prison, according to prosecutors, as cited by Reuters

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posted July 19, 2016 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't say this surprises me.

When we examine all establishments, we see many potential cases of them:

1. Creating a problem, then

2. *Gracing* us with the solution

Think about war...think about disease... think about mental illness (which is much more often a disease of environment and relationship as it is of "biology")

They have to justify their existence, and make some pennies (read: power) somehow, don't they?

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posted July 20, 2016 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the government can stage something like this, maybe the moon landing really was faked.

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todd
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posted July 20, 2016 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there a article giving a list of false flag event that have been admitted to by various governments over many decades
http://humansarefree.com/2016/07/60-false-flags-admitted-by-presidents.html#more

60 False Flags Admitted by Presidents, PMs, Congressmen, Generals, Spooks, Soldiers and Policemen

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posted July 21, 2016 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What you see is Milton Friedman's shock theory in practice...

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posted July 21, 2016 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
re Sandy Hook.
IF it was a false flag, it was one of the ugliest and painful experience for America.
I and America grieved for the children and the families.
Precious children being used in such an endeavor is beyond reprehensible so I have a very difficult time believing it..

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posted July 23, 2016 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only sociopaths would do so.

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todd
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posted July 30, 2016 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I all

I was looking for the pictures of the 4 highrises engulf inflames, well 3 high rises engulfed inflames and I can't find it.does any one remember or know which thread it was ontodd

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How are they able to get away with such a big lie? I don't understand how no one, especially people that live in Newtown, aren't saying 'hey, these children didn't actually die!'

I do believe it was staged, by the way. Just wondering how they can get away with something like this.

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