posted December 13, 2016 02:22 PM            

Gives a different perspective on the reasons why Adolf Hitler did what he did.

You can skip past some of the information on Jews like the Blood Rituals but I was mostly interested in information on WW2 itself and it definitely opened my eyes, like the fact that the carpet bombing of German cities by the British Royal Air Force on innocent women and children occurred before German was forced to respond in kind against Britain.

posted December 13, 2016 02:40 PM            

if may come as a surprise but 3 months before the beginning of ww2,sept 1 1938,hilter began using the concentration camps to kill german citizens

below is a portion of a post I made on AWF

To recall a era when a government medically killed their own populous goes back to the middle of 1939 when eugenics philosophy allowed the Nazis to kill the old ,infirm, social misfits and others.
Concentration camps had existed for years but the implementation of gas chambers was first used on german people. After the war started the camps were transferred to the military. By then a public outcry against gassing uncle wihlem forced the stop to culling the civilian population.
Such a frightening scenario as I see must be compared to the overall frightening nature of history. The geo politics now are the same as in 1939,the actions and larceny of wall street are not even being cover upped anymore.
We are treated like animals at check points, we are already being used as cattle.
Look at the fraud of obama care. The only thing that will happen is that medical profits will soar as the middle classes are taxed into submission.
So what is so far fetched that these coked out medical corporation aren’t making new “bugs to cause the need for their pharmaceuticals?”
That just seemed to be the idea in the beginning, which was about a year ago last September. In the intervening year several new variation have been developed.
Hitlers first action were to sign a law permitting euthanasia in late 1938. http://harunyahya.com/en/Books/3984/the-social-weapon-darwinism/chapter/5128
it seems that these actions were planned and set up from late 1938 til the first implementations in the middle of 1939. Jun 1 1939 to sept 1 1939 is 87 days
nov 11 2013 is 107 days from feb 26, 2014, when I project a worldwide military action
dec 1 is 87 days from this point in time .so I think these new strains of mrsa are going to be introduced to the social body. early December will show many explicable infections.

(this prediction was correct, the first genetically altered virus/bacteria combo fatality occurred in Houston in early December 2013)

todd

posted December 17, 2016 10:36 PM            

But there are other parts of history that aren't really explained though. The depression and hyperinflation after WWI greatly effected the working class in Germany, with a large amount of Germans unemployed and many starving to death. The disintegration of the ReichMark led to foreign abuses of the currency exchange and Berlin was transformed into one of the sin capitals of Europe as well as foreigners buying up large amounts of German businesses and economic power on the cheap. Once the 1929 depression hit, it literally crippled Germany onto its death bed and created the rise of the National Socialism Nazi Party as the result.

One need only wonder how different Germany was in that time compared to the USA of contemporary times. Do we see parallels of how the working class has become fed up and why they voted for Trump? Is Trump's slogan for "Make America Great Again" very different from Hitler's socialist policies that focused on Germans owning Germany? I'm not saying that he did the right thing per se from an absolute but I would say that he did the right thing for the German people at that time. Within 5 years while other countries were still trying to claw their way out of the depression, Germany was one of the most prosperous countries in Europe and obviously the British Empire could not let that continue.

posted December 17, 2016 11:15 PM            

People talk about how they'd go back in time to kill Hitler if they could. They don't realize that someone would just replace him in those desperate times...possibly someone worse and more successful. Hitler wasn't born as some antichrist to destroy a golden age, he adapted to the evil world around him, as did so many others. Given some of the other players, I'm a bit surprised Hitler was the one to climb his way to the top, and perhaps he was handpicked and aided by foreign interests as someone they thought they could control rather than deal with a worse alternative that truly terrified them.

posted December 18, 2016 09:02 AM            

"Gives a different perspective on the reasons why Adolf Hitler did what he did."

posted December 18, 2016 09:07 AM            

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Originally posted by todd:
World War 2 was created by the industrial corporations in the United States and England. The publishing magnate, Hearst,was giving Hitler 400,000 dollars a year in the 30.corporate America wanted to institute a fascist dictatorship in America. This was lead among others by Prescott Bush, our last bush president's grandfather.

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In Germany, during World War II, IBM engaged in business practices which have been the source of controversy. Much attention focuses on the role of IBM's German subsidiary, known as Deutsche Hollerith Maschinen Gesellschaft, or Dehomag. Topics in this regard include

* documenting operations by Dehomag which allowed the Nazis to better organize their war effort, and in particular the Holocaust and use of Nazi concentration camps;
* comparing these efforts to operations by other IBM subsidiaries which aided other nations' war efforts;
* and ultimately, assessing the degree to which IBM should be held culpable for atrocities which were made possible by its actions.

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posted December 18, 2016 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Offensive title of this thread.

"Gives a different perspective on the reasons why Adolf Hitler did what he did."

There is no REASON behind genocide.

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The title is based on the actual video title of the link in the first thread and I don't really see it as offensive. The actual point it is trying to make is that there seem to be many connected points that lead to reasonable and questionable doubt as to what we are told. Hitler removed 'monetary indebtedness' to international financiers and obviously they couldn't let that happen, just like after Saddam Hussain was taken out, one of the first things installed in Iraq was a central bank.

While your statement, "there is no REASON behind genocide" is reasonable, the true fact is that genocide happens many times over and over, and yet the Holocaust is the only genocide that apparently needs a law to have in affect to punish those that deny it.

In fact, I couldn't quite name the title to the one you recommend because by naming it that, I would be condemning and creating a premise that I don't think I've fully agreed with or ascertained.

1. The Soviets were the ones that gave much of the "proof" of the gas chambers as fact in other concentration camps and yet they let no neutral party into those camps to investigate.

2. Why create swimming pools, theatres and other activity centers in an extermination camp if that was the end result.

3. Why are there no Zyklon B residue stains in the buildings that were used as gas chambers but there are clearly Zyklon B residue stains in the delousing buildings where clothes, bed sheets and other items were disinfected.

4. Why are there equipment in the delousing buildings that were used to handle Zyklon B effectively and efficiently and yet none are said to be in the gas chamber buildings

Much of these photos and videos can be found by googling David Cole and seeing his videos where he goes to Auschwitz and does his own investigation.

Again, why did Hitler make a Transfer Agreement with the Zionist Jews if his hatred for the Jewish people was that severe. If he truly believed in only the Aryan race, why did he have blacks, jews and Muslims fighting for him in WW2? With food and medical supplies scarce near the end of WW2, could typhus have really been the main cause of all the diseased and malnutrition in the labor camps?

posted December 18, 2016 06:26 PM            

I have gone through holocaust denial footage before, and I've heard directly from people who really believed that. I have no reason to believe that the nearly 4 hours vid you posted is not something different from that BS, and the title "Jew World Order" makes me dismiss it out of hand as more of the same BS I've been exposed to before and don't care to be again.

But I did read the YT intro there. They want to paint him that way? His public speeches and his own Mein Kampf (which I've read, btw) portray his intentions (and himself) very differently. And I'll believe Hitler's own words of that of an apologist who says things like that (especially as some of it is so ridiculous, like why everyone loved Hitler when there were protests against him to the very end despite how heavy the SS came down on people who said anything bad, sending those who bad mouthed Hitler to prisons and camps of their own or they were drafted to be forced to fight on the front lines, and also ignores German social conditions of the time and how Hitler offered "easy answers" to the sensibilities of the time, and here is how one explains it). I'll also believe Nazi documentation (and things like tattooed arms) over claims that these were something resembling resorts for all involved (as opposed to how such facilities normally get used, which is for the staff, and also to use as rewards for prisoners who turn against their fellows, and also that these places weren't built for the Final Solution, which came after their construction, sometimes well after).

And Hitler was nominated for the peace prize by a Swede who intended the prize itself as a well deserved criticism, and it was quickly withdrawn by others on the committee. That prize is also BS, it is awarded to many who never deserved it (and even the rare few who deserve it lose to world leaders who don't), and that's true of many Nobel prizes (did you know the guy who came up with ramming an ice pick into people's brains got an award?).

The comments at that vid also strengthen my feeling that this is just more BS I've been exposed to before and don't care to be again.

As for your questions as raised by the film, there are answers for that, and often quite simple, obvious ones. Of course if your response is that I'm a Jew or someone "asleep" to why I'm not going to go through your BS vid that I'm not that gullible to believe because some YTer knows how to put on an act using fake evidence (so much easier to fake than faking the entire PUBLIC trials and Nazi Germany's own extensive documentation!) and excuses then that does nothing to prove you or this vid right.

posted December 18, 2016 09:26 PM            

But after years of people telling me I need to see something and so sure that after my protests that I'll be convinced if I see it (because how could I NOT be when it's so obviously the truth, in their minds?) that it has become a peeve of mine. Many of those people would wheedle me into seeing this, even try to guilt me into it, and lie to get me to, only to react badly when I did. (It's not just this subject, btw.)

If this is something different than what I think it is then I'd be interested. But everything that I see about it says this is the same old BS. I also dislike that people can be so easily fooled (usually as a knee jerk reaction to something they don't like, like say The Man, or because it validates something within post-truth style, that is what they want to believe, so they embrace it and then promote it) because it leads to bad things. And I also don't like that people who set out to manipulate others (be it scam artists or ideologues) get away with it. They should not get away with it, but they do, over and over again.

There certainly are a lot of lies over WW2, and the Allies were by no means saints (who tried to cover up their own crap while exposing the Nazis) but a "Jew World Order" should be rejected out of hand. These people are much worse than most governments who also edit history.

But mostly, it's people who were so sure this was the truth, and I "just needed to see/read/hear with an open mind." And that if I did then I'd see the truth of it. 'Course when I did, and then I gave another view, then I find what they mean by "open mind" is "without question" and I'm the bad one. And if you only knew my personal history with white supremacists and Nazi apologists who promoted stuff like this...not pleasant memories for me. And I have no more patience for it, nor about anyone who would try to trick me into seeing it "for my own good" (when there really wouldn't even be a point even if it were true--though there is a point, and that's prepping the mind for an ideology that needs to be expunged) and then react badly when I point out the flaws in it. But as long as you don't do that, thus repeating a pattern I've endured plenty of times before, then that's okay.