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Excavations in 1976 found pottery shard at Kuntillet `Ajrud with allusions to Yahweh and asherah.
Asherah is a name for the mother goddess and it is the name for the enclosure that held the sacred serpent. The sacred serpent had always been a feminine symbol until the Yahwistic editors of the torah turned the serpent into a masculine symbol . Asherah is also associated with sacred trees and groves.
How could Yahweh be a creator god when he was a consort to asherah, a mother goddess symbol.


Yahweh could not have spoken to moses on mt Sinai as the war with the kings of Israel and sumeria occurred around 1000bc. Yahweh was a cult god at that time as shown by his association with asherah.

in fact the people of Israel and sumeria and were followers of the goddess religions as late as king Hezekiah.
the yahwist war with the goddess religion resulted in a weakening of Israel to the degree that the Assyrians easily conquered and led the part of jewish people into the Babylonian exile.

asherah was also term for a "temple' that housed the sacred serpent, in addition to the goddess's name and the sacred tree and pillars associated with the goddess religion .the yahwist editors of the torah made the serpent a male so as to continue their degradation of the Hebrew goddess worship for purely political reasons and economic reasons

in addition merlin stone was of the opinion that the levites were indo European people that migrated into the levant. the levites were not an original tribe of the hebrews. there religious statue of the levites only began under king david when he gave made them bears of the sacred trumpets in the temple. to say moses and aaron were levites is a yahwist attempt to back date the history of the levites. if moses had been a levite, he would have never given the temple cultus into the hands of the house of zadok.
throughout the book of Samuel 2 it is stated that david made zadok the high priest and the levite priesthood followed.but again this is Yahwist propaganda as it was the house of zadok that ruled the temple cultus ,not an individual named zadok per se.

for that matter the levites never consolidated their religious power until the after Maccabean revolution circsa 150 b.c.

the torah was not written down until late exile time or when the return of from the Babylonian exile occurred.
so the written word recorded a history that was up 500 years in the past.
as such the real history was lost to yahwist censors.
one even knows the real name of king Solomon, as this epithet meaning wise was given to him in post exilic times .


asherah is mentioned in the bible. the philistines put king sauls head in their asherah and I believe saul had a asherah.
but the archeological remains indicating Yahweh was associated with asherah was not made know until the pottery was found.

there have been other important archeological disinformation in Israel .
the one that comes to mind is the renown yigael yadins assertion that he had found the pottery shards lots which the defenders of masada had used to determine the order in which the defenders would kill each others so as to not be captured by the romans. I read about this decades ago, but after yigeal's death, it turned out to be false. the afore mentioned shard were never excavated.

how Yahweh can be a creator god at the time of moses yet be the consort of asherah in the10th century bc is unexplained.

Yahweh as a creator god is a fiction of levite/yahwist/kaballist propaganda.

this is made obvious by part of the books of Samuel ,kings and chronicles

during the time of Elisha, there was a revolt by the king of moab named mesha .
The record in the book of kings has a few conflicting verses about this era, which would be in the reign of ahab ,king of Israel ,in samaria and the reign of Jehoshaphat ,king of Judah, in Jerusalem.
King ahab persecuted the cult of yahwe, the yahwists, and the yahwists continually tried to forment revolution against him.
As a consequence ahab killed all the members of the opposing yahwist ” 1 kings 18:3

Jehoshaphat on the other hand sent the levites to all city princes to give them the book of law of yahwe, and guide/rule them. 11chronicles 17:9
1kings 21:25 says that ahab “whom jezebel his wife stirred up”.

Jezebel brought the religion of the mother goddess. In the scripture called baal, the original form of this god was belial, a feminine god which was masculinized in the scriptures ,again to hide the goddess’s preeminence.

This time period is the beginning of the levite belief in one god. Still at this time all the ancient world was polytheistic . Yahweh had a consort, asherah in early centuries and throughout the early history the tribes of israel worshiped the indigenous mother goddess.

The levite rewriting of history of Judaism starts with he suppression of the mother goddess.

This censorship is very obvious in kings account of ahabs life.
1kings 22 ahab is wounded I battle and leaves the field of combat. He recovers and goes on to live for 3 years after jehosaphat dies. But the next line tells of ahab staying in the field of combat and dying.
The second version has ahab’s son ahaziah reigning next for 2 years and then his son jehoram reigning for 12 years and then jehu,a sonof jehosaphat, reigned.

But the first version has ahab living until after jehosaphat’s death.
Another problem is that jehoram was jehoshaphat’s son not ahabs son as written in 11chronicles 21:6.
So why is jehoram called ahab’s son. Commentators have also wondered why ahab who was against the yahwist would name a son jehoram(jahwe is exalted).

The second (accepted story of ahab) dying in battle fulfils a prophecy by Elisha that “.. dogs shall lick thy blood….dogs shall eat jezebel by the walls of jezreel.”

The second version is a obvious attempt to rewrite history and show elisha’s prophecy to be true and to erase the influence of the mother goddess under jezebel.

That the second version is a fraud is made clear by other sources from this time period.

The second version says that the king of moab, mesha, rebelled against Israel after ahabs death on the field of battle.
But a stella was found , written by mesha,king of moab. The revolt was initially successful and the stella was a written record of this rebellion and the reasons for.
Omri,ahabs father had oppressed the Moabites and moab was a vassal state to the king of smaria,omri.
Mesha writes that he rebelled when ahab had reigned half of his years.
So clearly the second version is a fraud as it says the revolt of mesha happen at the time of ahabs death.

A second source that shows the second version is incorrect is a from black obelisk of shalmanester 3,king of Assyria and Babylon .a inscription reads that in his the 6th year,he battled a coalition of Syrian and Palestinian princes at karkar. Ahab is mentioned as providing an army of 10,000 soldiers and 2,ooo chariots to the allied host against shalmanser.
In his 18th year shalmanser received “ a tribute from the men of tyre,sidon, and of jehu , of the house of omri. Omri was ahabs father. The 12years between these inscription does not leave room for jehoram to have reigned. Jehu was a son of Jehoshaphat who exterminate the line of ahab and ruled samaria(house of omri)

The second version in kings 22 says ahab son ahaziah ruled for 2 years, and then jehoram ruled for12 years and jehu ruled for a unspecified time.
But this adds up to more that the 12 years between ahab and jehu as noted in the annuals of shalmanser2. Some commentators have question whether jehoram ruled at all in samaria.

From ancient records of the same time, it is clear that the story of ahab has been fabricated/censored by the yahwists/levite/kabbalists .

for that matter the levites never consolidated their religious power until the after Maccabean revolution circsa 150 b.c. when the last high priest of the house of zadok, left Israel and established a temple in Alexandria because the high priesthood in Jerusalem had become a position that was bought and sold under herod antipas.


Excavations in 1976 found pottery shard at Kuntillet `Ajrud with allusions to Yahweh and asherah. Asherah is a name for the mother goddess

the evidence of yawheh and his consort asherah were found a bit after the 1960's in 1976(and notpublishedtil2006)and I am quite sure your rabbi did not assert yahweh had a consort at all.

I think you're also asking for trouble if you expect all the stories from a religion to be literally true

well I suggest you tell this to the likud party of netayahu as they belief so fervently in the literalness of the bible that the likud party shut down the Israeli government for several months in 1994 because simon peres said he did not like things that king david had done.
the NY Times article on december26, 1994 page 6 column relates that a no confidence vote was taken after foreign minister shimon peres, during parliamentary debate said he disapproved of some of the things King David had done, such as the conquest and occupation of neighboring lands and
“his selection of a married woman whose husband he sent to his death”. this refers to david sending bathsheba’s husband,uriah the Hittite to the front lines of battle where he was likely to be killed so david could marry Bathsheba.
The likud look for answers from kings dead 3000 years ago, to decide how to interact with modern reality.
King david was such a tyrant, god did not allow david to rebuild the temple
But in their world david is the model politically, for Israel in the 21 century.

And now netayahu intends to conquer the middle east under the likud kabbalic agencies.

He is the one most responsible for the rhetoric that lead to rabin’s assassination

the point being clear that ancient"myths " are driving contemporary political action in 2016

so you are factually incorrect to say the stories of the bible can't be taken literally. or you have some special faculty to pick and choose which stories are true and which are false.
I tend to reject the stories that Yahweh is a creator god, based on the archeological evidence uncovered in1976

I also think the late archeologist yageal yadin would have argued with you on your "assertion" that the bible can not be looked at literally.

What is the basis of your hatred here, Rahu? I'm curious

once again as you have for 10 years, you show you use of passivce aggressive techniques. now I am racsits
and as you are enoted for your new world Oder apologist stance, you dismiss anything that may prove you biased. as for netayahu.
he was the driving force behind the assasinarion of yitzak rabin because rabin had signed a peace accord..this is not my racism ,this is published opinions by jewish authors.
netayahu is a unrepentant liar. the latest example is his statement a few months back that a Palestinian leader gave hilter the idea to commit genocide on the jews, this was covered in the world press so don't kill the messanger(your words).netayahu later had to retract this racists comment.
a year ago Netanyahu published a map of his vision of the middle east in the world press. there was no Palestinian state at all.for nearly 100 years all debate about a jewish state included the presence of a Palestinian state, but Netanyahu threw years of negotiations out the window on his personal whim.
the there was the blanket destruction of parts of gaza 2 years ago that amounted to genocide, especially as an Israeli sniper boasted on this facebook page that he had targeted Palestinian children.(quickly removed )

I could go on and on but I am not going to was time time on you as you are not interested in facts that show you prejudices attitude.

what is your hatred of the Palestinians based on, i'd like to know

But if your primary motive in starting this thread was to promote anti-Zionism or anti- Israel sentiment, why were you not more direct about it

you cleverly try to represent Zionism as monolithic belief system whenin the fact is there are many different camps of Zionism. socialist, messianic, democractic, religious ,economist, yet you once again try to paint me as a racist when I am only aware of the historical make up of Zionism.

I reject the Yahwistic aggressive rascist zionism of netayahu and the likudnics .my preferences is for the scientific and democratic Zionism such as Immanuel velikovsky and other embraced.

My point (and I think Oddity's) is that there are other more metaphorical or political interpretations that make a lot more sense, at least for people without a personal stake in a highly politicized biblical archaeology.

if heinrich schliemann had this attitude, we would still not know that troy and the Iliad were historical places and events.

Even were Netanyahu a complete mad man, the Arab nations and UN would never stand for it.The notion that Benjamin Netanyahu is out to conquer the Near East is flabbergastingly untenable

get real waybread, Saudi Arabia is now fighting a proxy war for Israel, , correction Israel has put 40,000 troops in the syrian conflict to go along with the Saudis air and ground forces.

But if your primary motive in starting this thread was to promote anti-Zionism or anti- Israel sentiment, why were you not more direct about it?

again you are being disingenuous at best. it is just a coincidence that your first love the establishment media does not cover the dissension in Israel about Netanyahu's racists stand.

you have used these half truth discussion techniques for 10 years and still try to use them.
iam not against Zionism but I am against fascism like netrayahu's.

of course you haven't noted that netayahu passed a law that all jews have to believe as he believes, such as circumcision. now you must be circumcised in israel or be fined several 1000 dollars and also face imprisonment. what other country has passed genital mutilations laws and got away with it"?

talking to you is like taking to chameleon, you never acknowledge your faulty thinking but simply cover it up with more intellectual half truths.
and if you are painted into a corner ,you start hurtling personal insults such as "Rahu do you still have your pyramid hat on"

you are a waste of time, but weak minded individuals find you so articulate...
yes you and oddity and katydid are cut from the same cloth.

you can keep trolling me but don't expect any more responses. I don't have time for your Jupiter Neptune square.

The finds from Kuntillet ‘Ajrud were fantastic. The zingers were two large pithoi, or storage jars, that weighed about 30 pounds each. The now-reconstructed pithoi are painted with deities, humans, animals and symbols, and feature a number of inscriptions, including three that refer to Yahweh and his asherah or Asherah, depending on your interpretation. Asherah is a pagan goddess. Was she God’s wife?

Why has it taken nearly four decades to publish this final report? One reason is that everything about Kuntillet ‘Ajrud and its finds is so darn difficult to interpret—or even to see. The recently published report is a superb volume, and the discussion and interpretation will surely continue far beyond its pages"

So if Yahweh had a consort, asherah, and asherah is a word associated with the mother goddess cult, then how could Yahweh be the sole creator god that spoke to moses????
The yahwist occultist have been writing to glorify the selves .the archeological facts again show the yahwist to be fabricators of history, here they try to put the words of an 8th century bc cult god,yahweh, into the creator god.
The religious fiction is so boldly recorded that the obvious flaws shown by the archeological record can be missed.
In the desert moses picked up the brazen serpent and it was part of the temple cultus for 700 years. Moses got the serpent in the desert. There was a temple to the goddess and her serpent in the desert then. The serpent is associated with the goddess, so this implies the acceptance of a female divinity.
But when moses came down the mountain, the tribes had revered to te worship of baal the yahwist wil write. But ball is the male designated name of belial and other goddess names. The tribes didn’t suddenly change to the goddess, they were all along.
And then there is the question of mt Sinai. Why did god deal with moses from a mountsain sacred to nannar/sin?
Why is the sinai desert named after nanar/sin???


Why not to Yahweh the supposed creator god???

Nannar/sin’s city was harran. When the babylonia exile occurred only the cream of the judean crop when to Babylon , the rest of the dregs of Jerusalem were sent to harran, the tradition homerof Abraham and the jews.
Why did nannar/sin rule over harran? Where was Yahweh?
Harran is an interesting city.
One is that abram had an elder brother named harran ,deceased. But also because harran was an exact miniature of the city of UR in Sumerian. Harran even had a canal from the river pass through harran just as at Ur, with the city divided in exactly the same jurisdictions .
Sarai means princess in sumerian. Abram and sarai were of royal lineage from sumeria.
But where is yahweh?

during the time of Elisha, there was a revolt by the king of moab named mesha .
both the Egyptian and biblical accounts show a “great woman” in Palestine during the revolt of a “mesha.”
The record in the book of kings has a few conflicting verses about this era, which would be the reign of ahab ,king of Israel ,in samaria and the reign of Jehoshaphat ,king of Judah, in Jerusalem.
King ahab persecuted the cult of yahwe, the yahwists, and the yahwists continually tried to forment revolution against him.
As a consequence ahab killed all the members of the opposing yahwist ” 1 kings 18:3
Jehoshaphat on the other hand sent the levites to all city princes to give them the book of law of yahwe, and guide/rule them. 11chronicles 17:9
1kings 21:25 says that ahab “whom jezebel his wife stirred up”.
Jezebel brought the religion of the mother goddess. In the scripture called baal, the original form of this god was belial, a feminine god which was masculinized in the scriptures ,again to hide the goddess’s preeminence.
This time period is the beginning of the levite belief in one god. Still at this time all the ancient world was polytheistic . Yahweh had a consort, asherah in early centuries and throughout the early history the tribes of israel worshiped the indigenous mother goddess.
The levite rewriting of history of Judaism starts with he suppression of the mother goddess.
This censorship is very obvious in kings account of ahabs life.
1kings 22 ahab is wounded I battle and leaves the field of combat. He recovers and goes on to live for 3 years after jehosaphat dies. But the next line tells of ahab staying in the field of combat and dying.
The second version has ahab’s son ahaziah reigning next for 2 years and then his son jehoram reigning for 12 years and then jehu,a sonof jehosaphat, reigned.
But the first version has ahab living until after jehosaphat’s death.
Another problem is that jehoram was jehoshaphat’s son as written in 11chronicles 21:6.

So why is jehoram called ahab’s son. Commentators have also wondered why ahab who was against the yahwist would name a son jehoram(jahwe is exalted).

The second (accepted story of ahab) dying in battle fulfils a prophecy by Elisha that “.. dogs shall lick thy blood….dogs shall eat jezebel by the walls of jezreel.”

The second version is a obvious attempt to rewrite history and show elisha’s prophecy to be true and to erase the influence of the mother goddess under jezebel.
That the second version is a fraud is made clear by other sources from this time period.
The second version says that the king of moab, mesha, rebelled against Israel after ahabs death on the field of battle.
But a stella was found , written by mesha,king of moab. The revolt was initially successful and the stella was a written record of this rebellion and the reasons for.
Omri,ahabs father had oppressed the Moabites and moab was a vassal state to the king of smaria,omri.

Mesha writes that he rebelled when ahab had reigned half of his years.
So clearly the second version is a fraud as it says the revolt of mesha happen at the time of ahabs death.

Also the armarna tablets also record the revolt of mesha ,by name,in a letter from ahab to ankhetaton the pharaoh.

A second source that shows the second version is incorrect is a from the black oblesik of shalmanester 3,king of Assyria and Babylon .a inscription reads that in his the 6th year,he battled a coalition of Syrian and Palestinian princes at karkar. Ahab is mentioned as providing an army of 10,000 soldiers and 2,ooo chariots to the allied host against shalmanser.

In his 18th year shalmanser received “ a tribute from the men of tyre,sidon, and of jehu , of the house of omri. Omri was ahabs father. The 12years between these inscription does not leave room for jehoram to have reigned. Jehu was a son of Jehoshaphat who exterminate the line of ahab and ruled samaria(house of omri)

The second version in kings 22 says ahab son ahaziah ruled for 2 years, and then jehoram ruled for12 years and jehu ruled for a unspecified time.
But this adds up to more that the 12 years between ahab and jehu as noted in the annuals of shalmanser2. Some commentators have question whether jehoram ruled at all in samaria.

From ancient records of the same time, it is clear that the story of ahab has been censored by the yahwists/levites.

elohim translates to god in the plural and means both male and female. equating this word with judges or magistrates comes much later .
as Abraham and terah his father were Sumerian, the original meaning is of female and female dieties as was the case in ancient sumeria.
the point of this thread is to emphasizes the levite /Yahwist/cabbalists degradation of goddess and women in general.

the most obvious yahwist propaganda concerning David was appropriating the killing of goliath to david from Elhanan. later scribes inserted the word brother of goliath, to gloss over this contradiction

in a attempt to elevate Yahweh to a single creator god, yahwist propagandist or the guardians of dogma as dr Immanuel velikovsky (http://varchive.org/calls) them, the entire of history of the middle east has been turned on it's head.

dr velikovsky thoroughly explores is the synchronization of akkadian cuneiform tablets written in assyro-babylonian(akkadian) in the archives of tel el amarna in egypt under king amonhotep111 and amonhotep1V/ankhetaton with annual of shalmanserIII and the books of chronicles and kings in the torah and the mesha stella. The mesha stella was erected by the king of moab who rebelled against the kingdom of Israel in the time of the book of kings and the armana tablets where mesha is mentioned exactly.

The guardians of dogma place ankhetaton 600 years before the book of chronicles and kings.

The Amarna tablet are correspondence between the king of Egypt and the kings of samaria, king of judah and many other prince cities as these were all vassals of the king of Egypt in this period. But in 1500bc when ankhetaton was corresponding with these kingships…. The kingdoms did not exist. For that matter the Hebrew people did not exist let alone the kingdoms of Judah and Samaria, yet Hebrew idioms were used in the amarna tablets. Again all these correlations are verified in the amarna tablets
And once again the experts simply shut their eyes and record only what the guardians of dogma allow you to believe.

the purpose by the yahwist propaganist was to separate ankhetaten ,the first monotheist, from the time of king omnri and king Ahab and king Jehoshaphat because the want to institute Yahweh as the first and sole creator god.

to this day "establishment" archeology places ankhetaton in the 15th century and simply refused to integrate that the cuniform tablet archives of tel el amarna record Akhenaten corresponding with the kings of samaria and judah. they want the evidence to show Yahweh was the first monotheistic god.


one can not discredit cuniform tablets that mention jerulasalem ,samaria and Judah at least 5 hundred years before these cities existed. how can you discredit the use of Hebrew loan words 6-700 hundred years before Hebrew existed. how can you discredit the mention specically of the revolt of moab,mentioning the king mesha, 500 to 600 hundred years before these happened.the amarna tablet are written in akkadian which was the lingua franca of the late bronze age. this language is well researched and there can be no mistake as to what they concern. for that matter these archives also mentioned the jannu which was the word used for the early greeks. but in 1500bc the greeks did not exist.

the above are facts in written on cuneiform tablets.

one of dr. Immanuel Velikovsky's famous prediction was that venus was a comet. within the last decade it was found that the hydroxyl levels in venus atmosphere are the same as in comets and no other planet has these hydrozl concentration. then scientist also found that Venus has an ionized tail following it around in orbit.no planet has an ionized tail but all comets have ionized tails. nealyr every prediction he made in 1940 has been verifies since the age of exploration of the solar system.
velokivsky predicted a surface temperature of at least 600 degrees in 1940 and then lo and behold in the 60's it was found that venus had a surface temperature of 900 degrees.
the standard model explanation that this was caused by the hot house affect this supposition is not supported by any theory. no scientist has given any sort of an explanation of how the "hot house affect" works. but it is politically correct to throw this supposition out because currently the hot house affect is being used to explain heat rises on this planet.

for that matter velikovsky wrote in 1940 that neflimn could be interpreted as aliens coming to earth, but did not publish this because he said the culture was not prepared to accept these concepts. now Zechariah sitzkin et.al. are rich and famous for writing about the alien origin of civilization not to speak of the 100,000 thousands of ufo sighting in this century.

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The finds from Kuntillet ‘Ajrud were fantastic. The zingers were two large pithoi, or storage jars, that weighed about 30 pounds each. The now-reconstructed pithoi are painted with deities, humans, animals and symbols, and feature a number of inscriptions, including three that refer to Yahweh and his asherah or Asherah, depending on your interpretation. Asherah is a pagan goddess. Was she God’s wife?

Why has it taken nearly four decades to publish this final report? One reason is that everything about Kuntillet ‘Ajrud and its finds is so darn difficult to interpret—or even to see. The recently published report is a superb volume, and the discussion and interpretation will surely continue far beyond its pages"

So if Yahweh had a consort, asherah, and asherah is a word associated with the mother goddess cult, then how could Yahweh be the sole creator god that spoke to moses????
The yahwist occultist have been writing to glorify the selves .the archeological facts again show the yahwist to be fabricators of history, here they try to put the words of an 8th century bc cult god,yahweh, into the creator god.
The religious fiction is so boldly recorded that the obvious flaws shown by the archeological record can be missed.
In the desert moses picked up the brazen serpent and it was part of the temple cultus for 700 years. Moses got the serpent in the desert. There was a temple to the goddess and her serpent in the desert then. The serpent is associated with the goddess, so this implies the acceptance of a female divinity.
But when moses came down the mountain, the tribes had revered to te worship of baal the yahwist wil write. But ball is the male designated name of belial and other goddess names. The tribes didn’t suddenly change to the goddess, they were all along.
And then there is the question of mt Sinai. Why did god deal with moses from a mountsain sacred to nannar/sin?
Why is the sinai desert named after nanar/sin???


Why not to Yahweh the supposed creator god???

Nannar/sin’s city was harran. When the babylonia exile occurred only the cream of the judean crop when to Babylon , the rest of the dregs of Jerusalem were sent to harran, the tradition homerof Abraham and the jews.
Why did nannar/sin rule over harran? Where was Yahweh?
Harran is an interesting city.
One is that abram had an elder brother named harran ,deceased. But also because harran was an exact miniature of the city of UR in Sumerian. Harran even had a canal from the river pass through harran just as at Ur, with the city divided in exactly the same jurisdictions .
Sarai means princess in sumerian. Abram and sarai were of royal lineage from sumeria.
But where is yahweh?

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Jezebel: Slander of The Queen of Israel, Virgin of Baal, Princess of Tyre

Jezebel - even to this day, the name of the wife of King Ahab is synonymous with wickedness and promiscuity. She was the most depraved of women, a murderess, an adulteress and worst of all an idolatress. She was so hated by some of the ancient followers of Yahweh that they went out of their way after her death to paint her as all things evil, even going so far as changing her actual title from the Virgin of Baal to the ***** of Baal. But what was it really that caused such a reaction from the followers of Yahweh? How could a mere woman challenge such men of God?
The City of Samaria


The story really begins after the death of King Solomon when the Israelites split into two kingdoms, Israel in the north and Judah in the south. The first king of the north was Omri and he established his capitol in a place called Samaria. Omri built his palace complex on a hill he purchased from a man named Shemer, for which he paid two talents of silver. The ancient city of Samaria today is split between Israeli and Palestinian control and, unfortunately, it is in a precarious state threatened by vandals, robbers, and neglect. A recent proposal dubbed the “Shamir Plan” calls for a wide-reaching government program to increase the Jewish population of Judea and Samaria from 450,000 to two million, leading to more tensions with Palestine. If implemented, the plan would bring the Jewish population of Judea and Samaria to roughly the same level as the area’s current Arab population.
best-known excavations of the site date from 1908 to 1910 and then again in the 1930’s. The Palestinian Department of Antiquities, formed in 1997, is working on protecting and excavating the site with about a dozen digs being conducted, so conditions are improving. This ancient site is one of the most documented by fact in the Bible, as well as the burial place of John the Baptist, Joseph, and ten kings of Israel. Is it the location of this city that has caused its virtual abandonment by archaeologists until recently or is it something more? It seems to have been ground zero for the war between the worshippers of the old goddesses and gods, and the followers of Yahweh, for whom there was no room for other gods, and no amount of violence and treachery was too extreme to achieve their ends. What truths may be buried in the city of Samaria?
The Ivory Palace of King Ahab
The Legendary Queen of Sheba and Her Iconic Visit with King Solomon

A street of Pillars at the ruins of the city Samaria. (Pavel Bernshtam / Adobe Stock)
Conflict Due to a Female Deity


After the rule of King Omri, his son Ahab became the King of Israel, and in approximately 874 BC the Princess Jezebel of Tyre (Phoenicia), was brought to the northern kingdom to be his
bride and cement a trade and military alliance between the two kingdoms. It was a very advantageous agreement for Israel to be partners with the powerful and wealthy sea faring Phoenicians. Now the Bible says that Jezebel’s father King Ethbaal was the high priest of Baal, but according to the Annuals of Tyre, which are now lost, he was probably actually the high priest of Astarte. Astarte was the primary Phoenician deity, a Goddess, and Baal was her son, consort, or husband, depending on the region.
I contend that it is this worship of a female deity that was the deepest issue in this conflict and consequently, the Goddess was removed from the story as much as possible to hide the fact of her once widespread power. The presence of the female in the divine was simply an unthinkable state to the followers of Yahweh at this time, as it is to the followers of the three Yahweh based religions today.
The Bible purposefully skirts the issue of the worship of the Goddess as the prime religion at the time, consistently referring to Baal as the major deity when that was not the case; indeed Baal is the consort of Astarte, who dies every year and is then reborn, and holidays of grief and celebration commemorated this yearly cycle; does this story sound familiar? In earlier times, Astarte or Ashtoreth, as she was also known, was the consort of Jehovah before the move towards monotheism, and apparently the Israelites had a bit of trouble adjusting as they continuously fell back into their old ways of worshipping the older dualistic deities
Just Helping Jezebel Feel at Home


Jezebel was raised as an acolyte of Astarte and Baal and she brought her religious beliefs with her to Israel. The Bible would have us believe that Jezebel forced her religion on people, but the truth is that the region, whose populace was more multinational, was far from united under one god – even though the state religion of Israel was the worship of a single male deity, the worship of many gods and goddess’ was common. The followers of Yahweh were, however, determined to bring about the end of all religions except theirs by whatever means necessary.
Soon after their marriage, Ahab built a “house of ivory” for Jezebel to honor her deities, and this gift from a husband to his bride has long been used as an example of his weakness concerning his wife and the opulence of the pagans, not as a beautiful gesture to make a young woman far from her home feel welcome. Remains of ivory furniture and other relics were actually recovered from Samaria in earlier excavations in 1908 thru 1910, suggesting that the house of ivory really did exist. The Bible points out that Ahab erected an altar to Baal and then almost second handedly, it mentions he also made a “sacred post” (1 Kings 16:31-33). Sacred post can be easily passed over, but what it actually means is Ahab erected a grove to the Goddess, which was created by placing the posts of sacred trees into the ground, so clearly Ahab recognized both the Goddess and Baal.
was created by placing the posts of sacred trees into the ground, so clearly Ahab recognized both the Goddess and Baal.

A village along the eastern slope of the Samaritan mountain believed to be the location of King Ahab's ivory palace. ( The Commons )
Fighting Against and Hiding From a Powerful Queen


Jezebel, did not take her position as Queen of Israel as one of submission; she was the daughter of a powerful empire and a power in her own right and this seems to be her first sin in the eyes of the followers of Yahweh. She was a woman who spoke her mind and stood behind her beliefs and her culture; she refused to bow to their will and this alone made her very dangerous.
At some point in time, Jezebel seems to have been forced from merely attempting to achieve religious tolerance in her kingdom, to moving against some of the prophets of Yahweh. The prophet Elijah was claiming that the drought affecting the region was a punishment from God and the stress of the drought was undoubtedly causing unrest. In Kings 18:4, it says Jezebel was cutting off the prophets of the Lord, it does not of course say why. Perhaps they were causing extreme unrest by preaching in the streets that the evil of the king was causing the drought and in turn threatening the sovereignty of the king, or perhaps the accusations were not even true; there is no mention of names or places. Regardless of why, she was in fact a representative of the government, so her actions against persons acting against the state may or may not have been warranted. We will probably never know, but this one small verse has been used to vilify her when the actions of others prove to be much more horrific.
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Jezebel, the Phoenician queen of ancient Israel. ( Public Domain )
In an effort to prove the superiority of Yahweh, Elijah the prophet planned a contest on Mt Carmel between himself and the prophets of Astarte and Baal, of which there are 850 in the service of Jezebel. As the story goes, two bulls were sacrificed and put on pyres. The acolytes of Astarte and Baal first tried to get their deities to light the fire under the pyre to no avail, but just one plea from Elijah and the Lord sent fire to light the sacrifice. After this, Elijah orders the slaughter of the 850 servants of Astarte and Baal, declaring that not one of them shall escape.
This description of the mass murder of 850 people is very specific, unlike the vague reference to Jezebel ordering the cutting off of some of the prophets of Yahweh, yet no one seems to see Elijah’s acts as disgusting. Is any act acceptable when ordered by God? I think any modern reader should see this whole story as a trick by Elijah to get all the prophets of Astarte and Baal in one place and then he fooled the crowd with a parlor trick by lighting a fire, or perhaps the fire never even happened; it’s hard to believe a story when everyone who might have told a different version were not left alive. Then of course there is the account of Elijah making it rain, breaking the drought. Was this a miracle, a coincidence, or just a made up story?
Of course this is a great tale, especially if you like mass murder, but one has to wonder why a man who God sends down fire for and who can break a three
year drought goes into hiding when Jezebel, a mere woman, learns what he has done; and she makes it clear that she wants him dead just like her prophets. Why did he not ask God to strike her dead? Instead, he ran off to Mt Sinai to hide.

‘Elijah in the Desert’ (1818) by Washington Allston. ( Public Domain )
Jezebel Helps Her Husband Get a Vegetable Garden


The harsh blow of the murder of her prophets did not bring down Jezebel, so a more complicated plot was laid out to show that she manipulated her husband and violated the laws of the land.
This tale begins with her husband King Ahab wanting to buy his neighbors vineyard so the King can make a vegetable garden…yes a vegetable garden. The owner of the vineyard, a man named Naboth, refuses to sell or trade his vineyard, even for something worth more, since he inherited the land from his father and Israelite law declared that he should keep it forever. According to the Bible, Ahab became so upset over the problem with his new vegetable garden he took to his bed and refused to eat; strange behavior for a powerful warrior king, but that is how the Bible tells it. Jezebel then tells him that she will get the land for him. Many interpret her reaction as one who came from a land where rulers could do as they please, instead of as it was in Israel where rulers were not above the laws of the land, like David and Bathsheba for example. Jezebel is said to have written letters to the people of the town asking them to accuse Naboth of the crime of blasphemy and then to take him out and stone him. She did this without the knowledge of Ahab, but used his seal on letters to supposedly ensure the town people’s cooperation. They obeyed without question; Naboth was killed and the king automatically got the vineyard since the owner was convicted of a serious crime…very tidy except there are quite a few glaring problems with the story.

Jezabel and Ahab Meeting Elijah in Naboth's Vineyard Giclee. Print by Sir Frank Dicksee. ( Public Domain )
First, why would the elders and land owners of the town follow such instructions without question? No one spoke up to defend a man who they had probably known his entire life and who was completely within his rights to refuse the sale. If Jezebel was truly the hated harlot, why did no one betray her plan until after the fact? It makes no sense. Secondly, if the letters were signed by the King, how did they know they were actually sent by the Queen, and why would either the King or Queen send out multiple letters asking people to falsely testify against a man? It seems a little self-incriminating. The tale just does not ring true; it seems at best a fabricated lie and at worst a frame up that may have resulted in the death of Naboth, over a vegetable garden of all things. I, of course, do not doubt that something as petty as this could be true, the Bible is full of such stories; this one however is weaker than most.
The tragic death of Naboth, however, enraged the ever-righteous Elijah, and the Lord told him to go and tell Ahab that his possession of the land by murder would not go unpunished and that Ahab’s blood will be lapped up by dogs in the same place as Naboth’s death. Elijah, however, told Ahab that it was Jezebel who would be eaten by dogs.
Ahab died from wounds he received in battle after ruling from 874 to 853 BC. The second son of Ahab and Jezebel, Joram, took the throne as the legitimate King of Israel. Elijah had been taken to heaven without dying for being such a great guy, and his follower, Elisha, had taken up his cause. Elisha declared that one of Joram’s military commanders, Jehu, would be the new king and was to exterminate the House of Ahab. King Joram was on the battlefield and called out a greeting to Jehu, who responded to the king by saying 'How can all be well as long as your mother Jezebel carries on her countless harlotries and sorceries'? (2 Kings 9:22). He then assassinated the king with an arrow to the heart. King Joram’s body was dumped onto Naboth’s land. Jehu then had the decapitated heads of Ahab’s seventy sons taken from Samaria to the gates of Jezeel and put in a pile. Now the usurper Jehu heads to the town of Jezeel to finally murder the one they have hated for so long, Jezebel.
Murder of an Unarmed Woman


Jezebel, knowing she was about to be killed, did not run. Instead, she prepared for Jehu’s arrival by putting kohl around her eyes, dressing her hair and preparing to exit the world as a queen and a high priestess. The Bible likened lining the eyes as a female trick of enticement but in Jezebel’s case, it was quite possibly the face she would have worn to worship her dual deities, just as the priestesses of Hathor lined their eyes. The Bible would have us believe that Jezebel was preparing to seduce Jehu in order to save her own life, but upon the arrival of Jehu, she mocked him and called him Zimri, the ruler before Omri, who came to the throne by killing King Elah – it was not a nice comparison and certainly not an attempt at seduction. 'Is all well, Zimri, murderer of your master?’ (2 Kings 9:31) she asked him, as he came for her after killing her son, his king. Jehu ordered Jezebel’s eunuchs to throw her from her window – her blood was spattered on the walls and the soldier’s horses as they trampled her. After his victory against an unarmed woman, Jehu announced that her body should not be left in the street since she was the daughter of a king, insinuating that he may have had second thoughts about how his treatment of a Princess of Phoenicia would be viewed. But when his men went to retrieve the body, it had been consumed by dogs, just as Elijah had prophesied. Jehu continued the purge, killing every priest, family member, and associate of the family of Ahab, slaughtering them and mutilating their bodies.
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Jezebel went to her death with courage and spirit; she never begged for mercy or abandoned her beliefs. The Bible calls her a witch and a harlot but there is really no evidence of this, even in the massive smear campaign waged against her. She was by all accounts faithful to her husband, loyal to his family, and a powerful ally to him and her adopted homeland. There is never any evidence that she was not loyal to him, even after his death. She was of course guilty of one thing, polytheism - and she would have been the first to admit it.
The Story of Jezebel: History Written by the Winners


The story of Jezebel appears to have real basis in fact, as well as being a great example of history being written by the winners. Her story is so obviously colored by the religious prejudices of the writers of the Bible, that I do not understand how anyone sees her actions as so evil, and those of Elijah and the followers of Yahweh as righteous.

( Note this article itself is adding to the misinformation in the bible.the stella of mesha clearly states that king Ahab did not die on the field of battle. hence the story that jezebel was killed after Ahab's death is likely fiction also. King Ahab wrote to king Akhenaten from Sidon after king mesha had taken Samaria,so the following scenario is simply a work of fiction to legitamize the spiritual value of Isiah and not a real rendition of what toof place. todd)

The followers of Yahweh slaughtered hundreds of people, piled up severed heads, assassinated a king, threw a woman out a window, trampled her with horses, and then hunted down hundreds more who were associated with the family and chopped them to pieces. The only thing that keeps this behavior from being the work of psychotic killers is that God told them to do it. The death of Jezebel is more than just the death of one woman; her death is one of those many moments in history where the worship of the dual deities, the God and Goddess, began to fall to the new monotheism in a blood bath, and the new religion began the important task of erasing the past.

Jezebel by Byam Shaw. ( Public Domain )
Hopefully, further excavations of Samaria will yield more facts about the lives of these early rulers of Israel and the time when both God and Goddess were sacred to the people. Ironically, the murders of all of Ahab’s family by the followers of Yahweh led to Ahab and Jezebel’s daughter, Athaliah, becoming Queen of Judah…but that’s another bloody story.

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posted November 09, 2019 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alkmi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...excellent theological history...

were I you (of course, I ain't), I would break up these posts a LOT more, not to dumb it down, but because there's so much specific and esoteric talk...


breaking down your article and expanding on the ideas enclosed...this is more like a BOOK than a mere post.


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the great problem of Biblical monotheism is all contained in the first chapters of Genesis, where "God" says "Let US (the Elohim speak) make ANTHROPOS (humans) in OUR image. Male and Female were ANTHROPOS created.


Remember, there was no English language and no ENGLAND to speak of when those ideas were first committed to paper.

(papyrus?)


One can easily call those Elohim Isis, Osiris and Horus as Herself repeatedly referred to.


If there are any "gods" at all, then the stories of Zeus and Zeus family are as real as the later tales of monotheism. There was NO English Language when those tales of the Gods were being spread, long before the United Nations or electronic recording media came to be.


Many theologians have great difficulty because ancient languages did not diagram as our modern English does. Best of luck to you in writing and publishing.

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posted November 09, 2019 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alkmi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Re: Ashera, Hera and Asura


Asuras' or 'denial spirits' are symbols of the energy that denies life, love, beauty.


"And the city was filled with confusion."

Acts 19

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this is a article I found . the attribution is at he top. this is not my work

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