posted October 17, 2002 07:46 PM         

I am deep in depression. This is a constant problem for me along with anxiety. I've been seeing a professional about it but it's not enough. I am lost in it again. I'm calling my doctor in the morning because I don't know what else to do. Depression medication upsets my stomach and I hate the artificial way it makes me feel.

posted October 17, 2002 09:11 PM         

i know exactly where you are coming from...day to day i never know what to expect from myself...severe happy or severe sad..which in turn is a sign of severe depression...

posted October 18, 2002 01:29 AM         

We don't know anythiing about each other, and as such you have no way of knowing if I am speaking off the wall or not. Knowing this I still ask you give this a serious considerstion. At the very least it should greatly help. At the best it could cure.

Two components:
First is mineral-Calcium, at least 2000mg and Magnesium, at least 1000mg. Also Vitamines D and C to help absorbtion. If you want proof you might need this, go to a health food store and by a pack of PH strips. (15' for aprox $15) and take the pH test on your siliva. If it is below 7, you need these for better health anyway.
Calcium is one of the most prevelent minerals in nature and in a healthy human. It's calming and balancing properties are well aplauded.

The second step is protection from outside interference. Don't shrug me off or miss this section ...please!

There is something that is causing people to have depression, from apathy, even as far as self destruction. It has been dubbed DOR.
DOR is prevalent around Cell towers and really sensitive people even have constant headaches and lights behind their eyes, from being around them. Dor is also helped by those plane trails you see in the sky. The ones that don't dissipate but grow bigger and stay.

There is something that can abate the effects of DOR and that has been named Orgon. DOR kills natural Orgon which, untampered with is naturally all around you. Due to the towers and jet spew, the natural Orgon has been nearly destroyed in many areas. But there is a simple Orgon generator that you can make that will restore it to your environment. A couple of very good scientists discovered DOR and OR and figured out how to do this.

A solid hydrocarbon, like resin or epoxy with some metal in it to act as a reflector, it could be aluminum, copper, nuts and bolts, beebees, ect, will produce ORgon. Not just produce it but gobble up DOR in the process. If you add a few crystal quartz pieces or/and a piece of amythist, citrine, hematite or pyrite, it seems to make it a lot stronger too.

The cheapest resin found at a Home Depo type place and an equal amount of metal poured into a mold, with the crystals,ect, added will return the Orgon balance in your home. A gallon of resin would make several small 3" or a few 5" cones of Orgonite ( named for obvious reasons). Keep one in your car, by your bed, in your garden, in your frontroom.

The whole mood of everyone in the house will be effected. Not just you personally. Birds, pets, even plants are positively effected by good positive life force which is what Orgon is.

I would also look into moving to a 'safer' neighborhood if you have too many towers within a few miles of your house. Also if you have a cell phone you will have to make the decision to keep your depression or get rid of the luxury of owning one. It puts out DOR and is right in your hand!

Some more information on DOR, Orgon, Orgonite, and Jet spew can be found at these locations: http://educate-yourself.org, and http://forums.cloud-busters.com/

Don't let the latter one scare you off. They are gungho on this Orgonite thing and eat, sleep and drink the subject. But they are all good hearted people and always ready with helpful info and encouragement. They have found that by placing a small dose of Orgonite by a tower, it will stop that tower from spewing more DOR. They are on a grand quest to bust all of them they can find in their areas. And do a good job of it too.

Tried it myself and the change in my husband and son's tempers and attitudes, as well as my mood swings has been like night and day. We all sleep better, feel better about ourselves and our situations, have a better focussed thinking ability and more positive reactions to adversity. At the very least you could improve all of the above! And since I made some Orgonite and put it outside, there are birds singing like I havent heard them in a couple of years. They are much more attuned to this kind of change that people are.

Like I said. Please don't think this sounds nuts. To quote an apt phrase..."Don't knock it untill you try it."

posted October 21, 2002 11:14 PM         

I am deep into alternative medicine and hope I never have to have a doctor come near me! (Haven't needed a doc near our family for 15 years or more and that was the last time any of us got the flu!)

I used to do horoscopes oh, about twenty five years ago. Got interested when I found out I had two balanced grand trines and a perfect square in my chart. I just HAD to find out what that meant! (Among the books I used were Linda Goodman's astrology books.)

I just can't hear someone having problems without puting my two cents worth in. Hope I didn't offend anyone by jumping in like that!

posted October 22, 2002 03:46 PM         

I was diagnosed with major depression 18 months ago. Although, I've had the symptoms since I was a child. I've tried several medications, but none of them have worked.

Reading Linda's books helped with the suicidal urges. Now I know I can live forever and don't have to worry so much about the things that happen in my life.
I take responsibility for me; past, present, and future.

Exercise and a healthy diet are better than gold here. So is having a great support system. There needs to be a place you can go to be with people who care. Here is a great place! Being alone when you're depressed can be a very bad thing.

posted October 22, 2002 03:48 PM         

I was diagnosed with major depression 18 months ago. Although, I've had the symptoms since I was a child. I've tried several medications, but none of them have worked.

Reading Linda's books helped with the suicidal urges. Now I know I can live forever and don't have to worry so much about the things that happen in my life.
I take responsibility for me; past, present, and future.

Exercise and a healthy diet are better than gold here. So is having a great support system. There needs to be a place you can go to be with people who care. Here is a great place! Being alone when you're depressed can be a very bad thing.

posted November 05, 2002 09:23 PM         

Oh and I am wondering if more explination could be provided as to the DOR stuff. I believe you but am a bit confussed.

posted November 12, 2002 12:51 PM         

I'm sorry for your pain. I've been depressed since I was three years old, in and out of therapy, in and out of hosptials. It's a long road to recovery. Different things for different people, I guess.

One of the hardest things for me to learn regarding my depression was that, without meaning to, I was creating a lot of it. Shirley MacLaine in her wonderful autobiographical spirituality books talks alot about how we create our own reality. Depression can get us stuck in one reality - a pretty lousy one. But loving one's self is so important. I know that is harder to do than it sounds and yet... in some ways it so easy.

I feel for you, Lioness. Please check back and tell us how you are doing.

may healing be on its way,

posted January 05, 2003 09:42 PM         

If you still are interested after all this time it's at: http://forums.cloud-busters.com/

Orgonite has made such a positive change in our family I don't like to think of never having found it. Strange that something so simple can make such big changes in our lives.
The orgonite idea isn't an old one, but the basis goes back quite a ways... It started with Tesla and was investigated by Reich. Then a current worker in electronics got the idea of using orgonite in his health machines and a man named Croft figured out how the orgonite works on us, and how it blocks outside Electromagnetic interference with our own unprotected bodies. Now there is a world-wide movement to get the news out about this stuff because it is something anyone can make and use for their own protection and betterment.
It helps emotionally, psycicly, and physicaly. What more can you ask of a simple make-it-yourself dohicky?

posted January 08, 2003 11:21 PM         

Many people are hypo glycemic (low-blood sugar) which many times results in diabetes.

I don't mean to do a lecture on the Endocrine system however it is a key factor in maintaining good health. I really hope all of the other suggestions have been a help. I don't see that you have written lately, pleast do. We want to know how you are doing.

posted January 09, 2003 10:53 PM         

I'm sorry to say that I know exactly how you feel... and for me there was only one way out and that was to find the area of my body that was imbalanced. I saw a natural healer, and he has helped me so much i can't begin to explain.
He fixed my body physically (cleaned my organs, corrected mineral + vitamin imbalances). During this I worked on myself spiritually - unblocking chakras, using crystals + colour therapy.

All I can do is send you my love and i hope you find your solution soon
LOL
Nebel

posted March 31, 2003 08:31 PM         

I hope that in recent weeks your spirits have lifted.

Whatever you had to do to feel better, and however you achieved it, I just wanted to add some info about the endocrine system-- frequently an undetected thyroid imbalance can worsen depression symptoms. It can even undermine the effect of anti-depressants, if one decides to go that route.

When I had my first acute thyroid imbalance, I was so depressed I could barely function, but within one week of taking thyroid supplements, the depression lifted like a black cloud. I still had problems, but I could start handling them again.

I'm still new to this board but I hope that you have posted elsewhere in another topic since January, and that you're doing better.

posted April 02, 2003 09:05 AM         

Chrystalkay, i was extremely fascinated by your posts.
Having followed it up a little more - have come across a site selling 'orgonite tower busters' for just $3 each. Being in the UK, i'm still not sure if i can get hold of any, but i'll post the address for anyone who may be interested -
http://www.openminds-unite.com/id5.html

If anyone decides to give it a try - let us know how it goes, eh?

Thanks for the advice, Chrystalkay... xxx

posted April 10, 2003 05:48 AM         

My heart goes out to you!! It must be a very frustrating thing to be surrounded by the thick cloud of depression. Good on you for reaching out for help - it shows strength of character.

Have you been to a naturopath? Perhaps your depression is caused by a chemical imbalance.

I guess all the advice I can give to you is to take each minute/hour/day as it comes. Don't give up - you are a special person and your own personal path awaits you.

posted April 11, 2003 04:08 PM         

Yes, get rid of the sugar, it's nasty stuff, as well as artificial sweeteners like aspartame. A friend of mine has had serious depression for many years, complains of it often while she smokes and drinks her Coke. She let them put electric shocks through her brain, but she won't listen wholistic (spelling intentional) advice.

WE have to be in control of our health. I am a huge advocate of Dr. Richard Shulze and his American Botanical Pharmacy. I am not affiliated with him in any way, this is not a plug for his company. He advises huge body cleansings, they aren't easy, but you're in control. You contribute to your health. Some of it is a little expensive, but many of his recipes are available, you can make them yourself. Look for Sam Biser's website, he has written lots on Dr. Shulze, and provides many of his recipes.

If you want to know more, let me know. I don't want to post an address or number here, as it might break protocol.

I do hope those of you who are experiencing depression find the light at the end of your tunnels soon. Please, I didn't mean to get on a soapbox and preach, but I so believe that what we put in our bodies has enormous power over our well-being. Think about eating meat: traumatized flesh! Those creatures don't want to die! And that doesn't even begin to address the other problems with meat, including the antibiotics they pump into the animals.