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Topic: What about alcohol?
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morgana Knowflake Posts: 880 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted November 24, 2002 06:55 AM
Hello all! Does any of you drink alcohol? And if, how much and how often? Thanks! shine on IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 16642 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 24, 2002 02:57 PM
I abstain from all alcohol, but that's just my personal preference. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted November 24, 2002 04:10 PM
Once in a while I'll have a glass of wine during the week, and if I go with my bf on the weekend to a bar or club, I'll order a couple drinks. I don't think there is anything wrong with it, but as with all things that alter the mood (pot, drugs) one has to be careful. While I do it, I wouldn't tell others to drink because I do not know how they react. I have done alot of research on alcohol and can tell anyone the important steps to avoiding a hangover, vitamin depletion, etc. if you want... ------------------ Food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |
morgana Knowflake Posts: 880 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted November 24, 2002 04:46 PM
I used to drink a lot more when I was younger, but that's because I went out a lot, but even then I had to force myself because I don't like the taste of alcohol, I drink it only because of the effect. Now I drink a few beers or votkas very rarely, every few months or so, depends on my social life. I'm asking this becase Linda writes in her book about totally forgetting about alcohol altogether, so I just wanted to know how many people do that, and whether it's wrong to drink a glass of beer of wine from time to time or is it entirely "forbidden" because of destroying your brain tissue? Is that also true if you only drink a small glass of wine? As for the tips about avoiding the hangover - please, do! But I never have a classic hangover with a headache, I just feel terribly sick. How can I avoid that? (don't drink, right?) I read that you can decrease the hangover by taking vitamin C before you drink, but I think that doesn't help much. shine on! IP: Logged |
theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted November 24, 2002 07:24 PM
To ease the nausea:Always drink water while you are drinking. Before you go to bed drink 2 big and tall glasses of water, even if you don't want to or don't think you need it, force it down and just do it. what your drinking will effect how badly you are affected as well. Darker liquors and red wine will give you more negative effects than light liquors and wine. Also, the more high grade (I like stoli) the liquor is, the better is has been processed and the less trouble you will get the next day. The cheaper the wine or liquor is, the worse it is for your body. I like to order vodka and orange juices, and vodka and tonic waters when I go out, that way I am getting some juice to help negate the vitamin depletion and some water to help negate the dehydration. But I still drink water in between drinks. DOn't be embarrassed to order a water, as long as you tip, there is nothing wrong with that! I know the awful queasy stomach feeling you are talking about, and that is no fun. I find drinking tons of water and taking some kind of vitamin before I go out helps me. And never, never buy into these hangover tricks: hair of the dog that bit you (meaning drinking the next day, so you get drunk and don't notice the hangover) that is just awful- you will do yourself no good. exercise and sweat it out- sounds pretty painful to me, if you feel good enough to exercise, you cannot really be hungover, and if you don't feel good enough to do it, then don't! And don't get those drinks with alcohol and redbull or other high caffeine drinks, those are no good. Caffeine is a diuretic and alcohol is too, so you will lose all your bodies water (that is what makes the headache the next day, all the blood vessels are constricting) plus, with those drinks, you get such a rush from the caffeine that you don't notice how much alcohol you are taking in and it's more than you regularly would. Really, moderation is the best key.
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Mystique Knowflake Posts: 191 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted November 24, 2002 07:30 PM
Hi I enjoy drinking socially and also find a glass of wine relaxes me at times. As long as alcohol is not used as an escape I think there is no harm in it..that's my humble opinion anyway Love Mystique IP: Logged |
morgana Knowflake Posts: 880 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted November 25, 2002 03:37 PM
thanks for the tips, Fajita! water sounds logical because when I feel I've had enough to drink, I drink tons of cold water, preferably hours before I even go home, it makes me feel so much better. I always did that, even in my hard-drinking days. But I never thought of drinking water in-between drinks, that's a new one. And I drink vodka (was that Stolichnaya that you mentioned?) with juice (I cannot drink alcohol on its own, except wine or beer) or beer - what do you say about beer? When you drink it, you get a lot of fluid and a lot of vitamin B (yeast). That's my bf's excuse, by the way. But alcohol destroys vitamin B, so I don't know which is more true: does vitamin B in beer stay in your body or does alcohol destroy it? And I know all about cheap alcohol, believe me. That's the worst. And the next day I can't even look at anything alcoholic. Yes, alcohol is the worst escape because you don't really escape, everything just catches on with you, even the things you thought you forgot because it emphasises your feelings. I think someone once said to me that alcohol affects your heart-chakra and it sounds quite true. That's probably why those people who have difficulties expressing their feelings drink more than those who don't. shine on IP: Logged |
theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted November 25, 2002 11:57 PM
For those reasons, I do not think beer is bad for you. A 12- pack, maybe! Yes I meant that stoli-word you wrote, I do not know the whole thing! shine on too ------------------ Food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |
morgana Knowflake Posts: 880 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted November 26, 2002 02:06 PM
My bf will be so glad. He is getting kinda nervous these days because everytime I come off the forum, I tell him what new vitamins and herbs he should be taking.Stolichnaya (I don't know if this is exactly the right spelling) is, so I'm told by various experts around me, the best vodka (purest and all that) that can be bought outside Russia. So I guess if you drink, drink the best. Hope people won't think I'm advertising alcohol here Sorry, folks! shine on! IP: Logged |
batgirl Knowflake Posts: 164 From: usa Registered: Nov 2001
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posted December 02, 2002 07:40 AM
really does kill brain cells. and when you begin to experience the higher realms and your own higher bodies, the drunkenness leaves a residual effect at these higher levels and you may feel off balance until it has been processed out of these levels. it becomes a hindrance. it is not only your physical body which becomes intoxicated, though that may be the only immeditately obvious intoxication.IP: Logged |
batgirl Knowflake Posts: 164 From: usa Registered: Nov 2001
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posted December 02, 2002 07:42 AM
i'm talking YEARS later. it sticks around.IP: Logged |
morgana Knowflake Posts: 880 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 02, 2002 01:54 PM
Hello, batgirl!I'm obviously not experiencing these higher levels, not that I'm aware of, anyway. But it's true that I drink much much much less (not that I was a drunkard or anything, but I drank quite a lot when I went out) and very rarely. Oh, I said that already. It does sound like I'm apologizing, doesn't it? I know that alcohol is bad, it's just that maybe I feel that I don't want to close any doors in my life and that's why maybe it's so hard to say "I'll never drink a drop of alcohol again" - because I know I'd want to keep my word to myself. I'm really interested what anybody has to say about their relationship with alcohol or anything similarly stimulative or addictive, for that matter (cigarettes, perhaps?). Thanks! IP: Logged |
morgana Knowflake Posts: 880 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 02, 2002 01:59 PM
And I believe that it sticks around, I mean, I know, because I see it in other people. And not only in drunks, but also in some of my friends that I've known for a long time. It's more difficult to see yourself clearly, though.
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Hopeful Knowflake Posts: 1396 From: The Mists of Avalon Registered: Jan 2002
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posted December 02, 2002 08:14 PM
Hi Morgana - I was just reading about this subject the other day. The spiritual reason to avoid alcohol is because it basically puts holes in your aura and allows negative vibrations to enter. Now, it doesn't mean they will stay forever, but it may take some time to "cleanse" yourself.Hopeful IP: Logged |
trippysht Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Morristown, NJ USA Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 02, 2002 08:35 PM
i like what thich naht hahn said about this in 'living buddha, living christ':"...because we practice for everyone, including those with a propensity toward alcoholism... If we give up our glass of wine, it is to show our children, our firends, and our society that our life is not for ourselves alone, but for our ancestors, future generations and our society also... If you [decline an offer of alcohol] gently, with a smile, your refusal is very helpful. If sets an example for many friends, including the children who are present. There are so many healthy beverages available- why must we continue to honor a beverage that brings about so much suffering?" i wholeheartedly believe this, and at the same time, it just sucks because, although i don't really seek being drunk, i like a quality beer or spicy red wine with my meals... i guess it will take time for me to put this into practice. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 16642 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted December 03, 2002 01:18 AM
Good quote, Trippy. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
morgana Knowflake Posts: 880 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 05, 2002 05:33 AM
Hello, all, and thanks for all your feedback! And, like Trippy says, I believe that, but as for myself, I don't yet have the strength, or the wish which comes from inner knowing, for that matter, to follow it. I guess that comes with growth, and I just don't want to force it because nothing good ever comes out of that. I believe everything must come naturally and if you follow your self, everything will be fine. P.S. I think someone said to me that it takes 3 months to cleanse your body from alcohol. But I don't know if he meant the aura as well. shine on!
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trippysht Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Morristown, NJ USA Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 05, 2002 12:26 PM
to add to fajita's list of tips:to get rid of hang over, put lemon juice in your armpits! i got this out of a book of folk remedies. the author said that her publisher had handed the manuscript of the book to an MD to ensure the safty of all the remedies. she said next to just about everything this guy wrote "how rediculous" "they must be kidding" "won't work" but next to this one he said "works great! got me through medical school!" someone has to try it and get back to me, i've never tried it myself! IP: Logged |
theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted December 05, 2002 05:55 PM
Cool! I will have to try this remedy!------------------ Food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |
morgana Knowflake Posts: 880 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 09, 2002 06:18 AM
Thanks, Trippy! This is really the most bizarre thing I've ever heard about rid of a hangover. It can be a great deodorant as well, don't you think? Hi, Fajita! IP: Logged |
theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted December 09, 2002 07:33 PM
Yes it does sound good for a deoderent!! HI MORGANA!! ------------------ Food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |
morgana Knowflake Posts: 880 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 11, 2002 05:54 AM
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theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted December 11, 2002 10:25 PM
Morgana where are you from?? I am in south florida, but born and raised in southern cali. Both places are very cool!------------------ Food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |
morgana Knowflake Posts: 880 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 12, 2002 02:01 PM
I'm from ... Yesterday we got our first snow and it's really beautiful, but very very cold. I guess you have lovely warm weather there. I really envy you! IP: Logged |