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*~*ikachigo*~*
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posted February 16, 2003 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for *~*ikachigo*~*     Edit/Delete Message
hey guys! i am 15 and i have anemia. My parents MAKE me eat stae and red meat everyday, and i really dont appreciate that since i am trying to become a vegetarian slowly, as linda said. But they wont listen to me when i tell them that i want to become a vegetarian and they say its just "witch stuff" and i should give it up. So i was just wondering how to raise my iron level so that they wont make me eat so much red meat!
thankyouuuu!

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jjjax
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posted February 16, 2003 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjjax     Edit/Delete Message
*~*ikachigo*~*,
I have a friend who is a vego but trying to become vegan. I looked around for a basic cook book for her, i found one that had a lot of great simple recipies as well as nutritional advice. I bought her this book as a gift for chrissy as i know that she is determined to become vegan, but she wants to do it right and gradually do it. I was worried about her missing out on all the important things our bodies need. I think its important that you do your research *~*ikachigo*~*, find out what your body will be missing out on, like iron and make sure you make it up in other ways... Green are a great source of iron, but i believe you have to eat a great deal more of it to get the same amount as read meat. I suggest you see your doctor or a dietition and discuss this with them, they might be able to give you a list of vitamins and minerals you can take. I have a friend who eats dark choclate when she has her period because its ment to contain iron, im not saying to replace your meat with Chocy! (hmmm... though how sweet would that be). But if you feel like you need a pick me up... give that a try.
Jax

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RubyRedRam
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posted February 16, 2003 11:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Thats funny because when I am feeling low in iron I take a little chocolate and it picks me up! My grandmother said it always works and she knows everything I dont eat red meat, I slowly stopped eating it when I was about 17 and was fully a vegetarian at 19.

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Randall
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posted February 17, 2003 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Mmmmmmm, chocolate.

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stella polaris
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posted February 17, 2003 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
As far as I know, it's the cocoa that contains iron, so it's important to eat dark chocolate with an high amount of cocoa (and preferably a low amount of sugar and fat).

Here are iron food: Lentils, beans, chickenpeas - put those on your meny a couple of times a week and iron level should go up. (A friend tried this with her daughter, on doctor's recommandation, and iron level went straight up within a few months). Remember that precooked, tinned or other type of conserved food often looses it's nutrition value so take the trouble to buy organic lentils and beans and boil them yourself. Here's my favourite receipe: Let white gigant beans soak in water over night. Change water, and boil untill soft. Put in a heatproof tin. Mix with tomato paste, a dash of olive oil, oregano, salt, pepper and crumble feta cheese over. Bake in oven untill nice and brown. YUM!!!
Other iron foods are: Beet (try to peel and slice the beets, sprinkle with olive oil, salt and oregano and cook in oven untill soft). Spinach - fry fresh spinach leaves in a little bit of olive oil untill soft, spice with salt, pepper, muscat and red pepper, add a spoon or two of fresh cream, some parmesan, and mix with rice or pasta for a full meal.
Always drink fresh orange juice or eat an orange with your meal, as the vitamine C in the orange helps your body taking up the iron from the food.
Good luck!

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Oxychick
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posted February 17, 2003 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oxychick     Edit/Delete Message
Don't forget oatmeal and raisins!

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*~*ikachigo*~*
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posted February 17, 2003 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for *~*ikachigo*~*     Edit/Delete Message
holy! you guys, i never knew there were so many foods that were rich in iron! i thought i was trapped cuz the only foods that had iron were like meat! hahaha but thanyou very very much i will use your guys's advice! THANKYOU!!!!
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sVirgo
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posted February 17, 2003 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sVirgo     Edit/Delete Message
I have confusion that whether eggs are Veg or not. Even some people consider Chicken and fish as Veg. How so?

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RubyRedRam
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posted February 17, 2003 09:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Unfertilised chicken embryos? No, I would not say they are Veg. Chicken and fish? definitley not Veg.

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theFajita3
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posted February 18, 2003 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita3     Edit/Delete Message
Svirgo anything made from animal products doesn't fit in vegan's diets like butter, milk, eggs, cheese, since they all COME from animals.

Perhaps the people you know who still eat chicken and fish are not really vegitarian they just avoid red meat.

I eat everything but commend you ikachigo for trying to do some research first. Yes you can find many good sources of iron like what people here said.

Sometimes family gets wierded out when we learn new things in life- they just get afraid we will learn the wrong things. They really just want to help you. I would say just don't make a big issue out of it, sometimes arguing a point is pointless and you can just make the change anyways. Or I don't know I am not trying to tell you what to do, i just know with my parents the more i fought for something, the more they wouldn't budge. But if I just dropped the discussion things were alot calmer.

Well whatever you do I support you and hope you know that you can come here and vent and/or let us know what is going on

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Sothis109
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posted March 06, 2003 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sothis109     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Ika,

I have found that the more "time" passes, the less people hassle you. I had just become a vegetarian, and everyone was on my back- even perfect strangers who were eavesdropping on a conversation. Now that I say I've been a vegetarian for a while, most people don't say anything.

Eating red meat is not necessarily proportionate to iron absorption. In fact, I was diagnosed as being slightly anemic back when I was eating two hamburgers a day! The problem seemed to solve itself even before I became vegetarian. All of the above sources are excellent, and also you can take a vegetarian iron supplement. I don't mean to get personal, but heavy menstrual periods can also cause general anemia, so it can be especially important to take the supplement then. Also, milk, milk products, and antacids can block iron uptake, so you might want to not mix those with iron-containing food or the iron supplement. Conversely, vitamin C aids greatly in iron absorption, so make sure and include that as well. Also, it can take a month or two for a demonstrable difference in your blood work, so be patient!

Iron deficiencies statistically are not more common with vegetarians than with omnivores. The only nutrient that generally is deficient in many vegetarian diets is vitamin B12. Babies that are breastfed by ill-informed vegan mothers tend to develop cognitive impairment and brain development problems due to a lack of vitamin B12.

Any well-informed vegetarian knows that there are no reliable plant sources for vitamin B12. However, there are several yeasts that are better sources of it, not to mention multivitamins that include vegetarian B12.

Anyway, nutritional deficiencies are a pandemic in a society that consumes so many overprocessed foods. In fact, such deficiencies, including those relating to pregnancy and breastfeeding, are just as common among meat-eaters (e.g., the March of Dimes' awareness campaign on folic acid, another B vitamin!). Also, properly educated vegetarian mothers are less likely to pass on harmful chemicals and hormones, such as DDT and BGH, during breastfeeding. Those and similar compounds have been linked to everything from autoimmunological problems to premature puberty.

I think it's very cool that you’re choosing to be vegetarian, and that you want to be well informed about it!

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Lunargirl
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posted March 12, 2003 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunargirl     Edit/Delete Message
Hi *~*ikachigo*~*

Some great advice in this thread.

I learned that my blood type (A) doesn't absorb iron too well from food, and so I started to supplement my dark leafy greens with an herbal tonic called Floradix, available in many health food stores across North America. A vegetarian pal of mine recommended it. Although pricey, it tastes great!

cheers,
Lunargirl

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Harpyr
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posted April 13, 2003 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
Hi ikachigo!

I dug around to find some resources for you.

I hope this helps.

quote:
Table 1: Iron Content of Selected Vegan Foods

FOOD AMOUNT IRON (mg)

Soybeans, cooked 1 cup - 8.8
Blackstrap molasses 2 Tbsp - 7.0
Lentils, cooked 1 cup - 6.6
Tofu 4 oz - 0.7-6.6
Quinoa, cooked 1 cup - 6.3
Kidney beans, cooked 1 cup - 5.2
Chickpeas, cooked 1 cup - 4.7
Lima beans, cooked 1 cup - 4.5
Pinto beans, cooked 1 cup - 4.5
Veggie burger,
commercial 1 patty - 1.1-4.5
Black-eyed peas, cooked 1 cup - 4.3
Swiss chard, cooked 1 cup - 4.0
Tempeh 1 cup - 3.8
Black beans, cooked 1 cup - 3.6
Bagel, enriched 3 oz - 3.2
Turnip greens, cooked 1 cup - 3.2
Prune juice 8 oz - 3.0
Spinach, cooked 1 cup - 2.9
Beet greens, cooked 1 cup - 2.7
Tahini 2 Tbsp - 2.6
Raisins 1/2 cup - 2.2
Cashews 1/4 cup - 2.0
Figs, dried 5 medium- 2.0
Seitan 4 oz - 2.0
Bok choy, cooked 1 cup - 1.8
Bulgur, cooked 1 cup - 1.7
Apricots, dried 10 halves- 1.6
Potato 1 large - 1.4
Soy yogurt 6 oz - 1.4
Tomato juice 8 oz - 1.4
Veggie hot dog 1 hot dog- 1.4
Almonds 1/4 cup - 1.3
Peas, cooked 1 cup - 1.3
Green beans, cooked 1 cup - 1.2
Kale, cooked 1 cup - 1.2
Sesame seeds 2 Tbsp - 1.2
Sunflower seeds 1/4 cup - 1.2
Broccoli, cooked 1 cup - 1.1
Brussels sprouts,cooked 1 cup - 1.1
Millet, cooked 1 cup - 1.0
Prunes 5 medium- 1.0
Watermelon 1/8 medium- 1.0


Sources: USDA Nutrient Data Base for Standard Reference, Release 12, 1998. Manufacturer's information.

The RDA for iron is 10 mg/day for adult men and for post-menopausal women and 15 mg/day for pre-menopausal women.


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Table 2: Comparison of Iron Sources

FOOD IRON (mg/100 calories)


Spinach, cooked 5.4
Collard greens, cooked 3.1
Lentils, cooked 2.9
Broccoli, cooked 2.1
Chickpeas, cooked 1.7
Sirloin steak,choice,broiled 1.6
Figs, dried 0.8
Hamburger, lean, broiled 0.8
Chicken, roasted, no skin 0.6
Flounder, baked 0.3
Pork Chop, pan fried 0.2
Milk, skim 0.1

Note that the top iron sources are vegan.



There's more good info if you click here- http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/iron.htm

And here's an informative article for debates between meat eaters and veggers- http://www.vegfamily.com/articles/win-argument-meat-eater.htm

Enjoy! With well researched and reasoned logic, your parents will eventually come around, don't worry.

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*~*ikachigo*~*
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posted April 15, 2003 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for *~*ikachigo*~*     Edit/Delete Message
WOW! harpyr, thats a lot of foods! thankyou so much for taking time to do this for me! it is very much appreciated! not only by me, but my parents as well!and lunargirl, i actually am taking floradix my homeopath recommended it!
this has given me so much hope i was in such a bad mood all day but now i am revived lol
hahah anyways, a big warm THANKYOU to everyone!! love,
ika

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Sothis109
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posted April 18, 2003 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sothis109     Edit/Delete Message
Great list, happyr. I cut, pasted, and printed it out.

Thanks!

I'm glad you started this thread, Ika. Now we all got some good info.

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