posted March 25, 2004 08:13 AM         

As aforementioned in an earlier post of mine, poultry contains anti-biotics and hormones which people inject and we eat them (well I don't).

Due to pollution, as mentioned earlier in a previous post of mine, fish and other seafood contain mercury and POPs (persistent organic pollutants), which are severely harmful for our bodies.

You cannot wait for another five years to fully give up white meat. Your children cannot wait for another six years to give it up, either. Or you would be, literally, poisoning your bodies. Quit flesh once and for all won't give you a shock. Go for it. Many of us veggies/vegans are fine examples.

P.S. I know I've talked about this before, I just feel that I have to stress it again, esp the cancer thing. I'm not kidding.

posted March 25, 2004 10:05 AM         

juniperb

posted March 25, 2004 12:56 PM         

and I read somewhere recently that there is a definate link between cervical cancer and multiple partners...

posted March 25, 2004 01:10 PM         

The major difference between the nuns and the general population was the fact that they did not have sex, and actually many had never had sex.

They also allowed for lying in the study (+/- a certain % of error for that).

I found it very interesting. But then again, aren't incidences of breast cancer higher w/ women who've never had children? I thought I read something about that.

posted March 25, 2004 04:22 PM         

I say Americans need to learn to eat in moderation. We eat 3x the size of "normal" portion sizes. This is where the root of the problem lies.

Just adding my 2c

posted March 26, 2004 08:15 AM         

I'm a virtual Catholic myself (I have never been baptised) and I've met nuns. Several of them. I've also heard about some nuns out there who brutalise the children in their care...I think some of them simply suppress their human nature (like many priests, I must say, regrettably)- every one of us is HUMAN, and all of us are destined to be re-united with our Twin Selves. Priests and nuns are human, not something beyond that. Having said that, I am not discrediting some extraordinary work done by certain truly remarkable priests and nuns e.g. Mother Theresa etc.

Cancer is everywhere. The electric wave from our computers, mobile phones, TVs, stereos...give us cancer. Hard to believe, isn't it? But that's what I've read in a book. The meat and other farm animal products we eat are polluted with anti-biotics, hormones and pesticides, the land on which we grow our grains, vegetables and fruit is contaminated by chemicals released from factories, the water is 'fortified' with chloride, which is damaging for your health, and also contaminated, the air we breathe is full of, again, CHEMICALS from vehicles and factories. The ozone layer is being severely damaged, hence a higher percentage of skin cancer.

There is a great invention from Germany- ozone food detox machine, using the device to detox rice, veggies such as broccoli and cucumber, or even meat and fish (if you eat them), which makes the rice taste even better. It is available here in Taiwan, but I don't know if it can be purchased elsewhere.

The psychological effect is powerful, I totally agree. The fear inside you eventually consumes you. Set your spirit free and you automatically set yourself free from being destroyed by your phobia.

About sex...the fewer sex partners we have the better. But sometimes, whether it's lust and attraction or love and passion (as I've mentioned in another post concerning another issue), we find ourselves unable to resist the call of our strange human nature. It would be ideal if each of us had only one, or very few sex partners in one lifetime. However, I am only saying that it is an 'ideal' situation. The world is not only established upon ideal, but largely upon reality. Cold, harsh reality.

But never lose hope...

posted March 26, 2004 12:56 PM         

But you seem enamored of too much dogma. Too much that's stringent and stifling.

Breathe! Life is beautiful and full of endless possibilities, it's limitless if you let it be! The only limitations are those you create for yourself.

Sex is great, have more sex, it's good for your body. And if you wanna make a whole lotta love with a whole lotta people, great! It's your choice, your life, your love. You won't run out.

You can't always choose what happens to you, but you can choose how you react. You can choose to heal yourself, you can choose to be well in body mind and spirit.

I'm a vegetarian, but there are no absolutes in life. I might someday decide to eat a sentient, furry creature, though I have no current plans to do so. And I will not judge those who do.

No absolutes. Only possibilities.

posted March 27, 2004 12:09 AM         

Trillian, how can you see it right to make 'love' to everyone when you want?
Sex is great! I agree, have more sex, yes with your life partner! It's always good for your body. And if you wanna make a whole lotta love with a whole lotta people, thats not so good. LOVE MAKING is the type of sex that is right, and only done with someone whom you truely love- your life partner. The other SEX that you give away to anyone is LUST not LOVE and is bad for the soul. And I dont know about you- but I wish to unite with my twin-self.-that is if I havnt already. It is your choice, your life, your love. Your Soul.

all

posted March 27, 2004 01:44 AM         

I just want to live, and living is in experiencing all that life has to offer.

I do respect people who do seek to find ways to keep and maintain their health but what is it all for if you get hit by a bus tomorrow?

I am loving all of these topics too, it is all such good food for thought.

posted March 27, 2004 08:08 AM         

Because I don't believe in absolutes.

Because my truth may not be the truth of you, or anyone else.

Because sex can be a great way of growing closer to someone, or it can be a great way of providing bodily joy to each other, or it can be a myriad of other things, defined by those who are having it.

"Walk a mile in my shoes, now before you abuse, criticize and accuse...walk a mile in my shoes."

Because I believe everything in the Universe is perfect in what we might believe is its imperfection. Everything that exists is right because Everything is a piece of a part of a whole, that is The Creator Of All That Is.

Sex is special sometimes.
It isn't at other times.
Sometimes it's just a heck of a good time.

Let me also add that sex should only be between consenting partners. Otherwise it's rape, and that's an entirely different discussion.

Personally, I haven't met my "life partner," as you call it. I may never. Who knows? And I'm not convinced that "twin souls" exists. But I'm not going to give up sex because someone who isn't me thinks I'm short-circuiting my soul. I assure you I am not. It's good for me, good for my body, good for whomever my partner is.

Do you think people shouldn't indulge in a little self-love either?

posted March 27, 2004 08:58 AM         

I am sorry if I did not express myself fully and I am sorry to say that obviously, you don't know me.

I DID NOT say you shouldn't have 'too much' sex/more sex. I know sex is a wonderful gift, believe me. I know it is nice to indulge in human passion at times, believe me. We just keep searching throughout our lives for 'the right one', and on our way we simply unavoidably encounter many who touch our souls and become one flesh with our bodies. It is NOT a sin. It is just human. My world is not as 'small' as you think, you have no idea what I am up to, what's in my head. However, I do appreciate your providing your viewpoint. Having a whole lotta sex/as much of sex as you want would be another topic to discuss, a big one. It may bring you ultra ecstacy or ultra confusion. Humans get jealous and possessive. You commit to one individual at a time because you love him/her so much you don't wish to hurt his/her feelings. It's a matter of perspective. How would you feel if someone you truly cared slept with another person/other people? If you don't care, that's fine by me. No offence or 'dogma'.

Does 'the right one' exist? I believe it does. The reason? Sorry, it is too personal for me to relate here and now. Not an excuse.

I've seen the film 'Alive', which is based on a true story, about a bunch of people eating their dead friends in order to survive in the snow-covered Andes. I've said before that I knew there are places on this planet where people have to eat meat. I have no problem with that. What I have been talking about is- most of us do have a choice. So why not take the better one?

Of course, anybody can just go outside and get hit by a bus. Nonetheless, you still should give a da*m, I'm not saying you should be too concerned. I'm saying you should try. Do your best to make yourself happy. Isn't that right?

And a BIG thanks to you SunChild for your encouragement!!!

posted March 27, 2004 10:14 AM         

No, you didn't say don't have sex, and I didn't say you did. But you did say the fewer sex partners the better for us, and I disagreed, saying I don't believe that's necessarily true. I'm sure it's true for some...and not for others.

I have had someone I truly care for sleep with other people. Does that rob me of something? Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Some people choose to have sexually open relationships, and are happy and content to do so. I won't judge them.

I realize people have very strong personal feelings about these things. And I mean no disrespect to anyone.

But perhaps this discussion is best left to those only of a like mind.

posted March 27, 2004 10:28 AM         

Dana, you remarked:
"By the way, sex is bad for your body when you contract STDs. That was what I meant. Bad for a woman's uterus if she has a bunch of sex with a bunch of people. "

I'm not sure what equation would arrive at the conclusion that multiple partners are bad for a woman's uterus. If you are inferring that multiple partners will lead to STDs, yes, that's a possibility, but that makes it sound like punishment. And it only takes a virgin one partner to contract an STD, whereas there are many women (and men) with mulitiple partners who never contract STDs.

If there is research that proves multiple partners = STDs, or that multiple partners = bad-for-uterus, I would like to see it.

I am a born devil's advocate, and I like to view things from all angles. I was never good at living inside a box. Oh, it may not win me a personality contest here, but I still love you all and appreciate the chance to know you and grow through learning of your opinions and experiences.

posted March 27, 2004 11:03 AM         

Thank you for your feedback, trillian, and thank you for providing a different and thought-provoking perspective. To be brutallly honest with you all, I am not nearly a 'saint' at all. Inside, I am a downright 'sinner' (Don't linger on our 'original sin', instead, focus on our 'original innocence', as pointed out by Linda). I am a self-contradictory bi**h. I've experienced something extraordinary- I only wanted to be with him for the rest of my life. However, I am being so nastily inconsistent- free sex, why not? Some people were born with intense sexual desire and it is NOT a sin. Still, to find someone truly special and remain loyal to him/her is a wonderful thing as well, because throughout the process you learn so very much. It's absolutely profound. Simply PROFOUND. Have you ever experienced it?

I agree that even if you don't have much sex may bring you STDs. But the more sex partners you have, the more likely you might contract STDs, because that's the fact.

Linda said in 'Star Signs' that you should only experience physical union with your Twin Self and (paraphrased) promiscuity and pornography short-circuit your soul. However, in 'Conversations with God', God says 'sex is a wonderful thing, enjoy it! Don't feel ashamed at all!'

So here's my two cents: follow your individual choices, as long as they are based on respect for others' feelings. Once again, I must confess and emphasise that, most people don't have the faintest how dark I actually am...I'm multi-faceted.