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future_uncertain
Knowflake

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posted December 26, 2004 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
I've had chronic ideopathic dermographic urticaria for three years now. This means that I get hives (urticaria) from pressure on my skin (dermographic) for some completely unknown reason (ideopathic.) If I rub my skin or scratch my skin anywhere I get a hive from where the pressure was. I take claritin to alleviate the problem, but I want to know why this is happening and how to make it go away. Everything I read says they have no known causes for it and it usually clears up on its own within five years. Has anybody else experienced this? I've tried the biological approach, maybe there's some metaphysical advice I could try?

It began when I was going through a period of extreme anxiety, but the anxiety levels have been pretty much under control for about 2 1/2 years, but the hives haven't gone away.

Help!

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monad
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posted December 27, 2004 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for monad     Edit/Delete Message
as treatment you could try saliva, thats what animals do !
Hope this helps

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future_uncertain
Knowflake

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posted December 27, 2004 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Wow! This is interesting... do animals get hives? You'll have to tell me more about this.

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monad
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posted December 28, 2004 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for monad     Edit/Delete Message
All I meant was that nature animals lick their wounds.
I know nothing about hives specifically, apart from what you just told me.
Do other animals get hives?
I dont know

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moonshine
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posted December 28, 2004 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonshine     Edit/Delete Message
I get hives occasionally too. It is definitley related to some sort of allergy. Have you ever had a food allergy test done? Or some sort of test for substances or pollution?

When I was younger I had pretty bad asthma and eczema and I got hives a lot. I always thought they were related. I got better when I was 17 but it came back when I was about 25. I got really depressed for a while and I got hives - really badly all over my body - just from coming out of the shower. But my skin cleared up when I started taking care of what I ate - no dairy, green tea, lots of fresh veg vitamins etc etc and it helped.

Even now I get hives now and then, sometimes from being too hot or too cold even . I dont think there's much i can do about that but I find if I dont let myself get upset it it helps.

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future_uncertain
Knowflake

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posted December 29, 2004 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks both of you. This is something I have all day every day. My best guess is that it is anxiety related. I was prescribed Zoloft for a while to relieve my anxiety, but even after I calmed down a bit the hives never went away. If anyone else has anything to share, let me know!

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BlueTopaz124
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posted December 30, 2004 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
Have you been tested in depth by a good allergist/immunologist? They can do a serum test to see if it is autoimmune-related or a series of tests to see if it is allergy-related. Hives/Urticaria is very often confusing for doctors to diagnose the origin due to its nature.

I came down with Chronic Urticaria very suddenly in the fall of 2002, never having had anything like it before. The hives for me showed up, huge patches every night around the same time, and I had no way of controlling them until they released Claritin to be sold over the counter. It was a blessing and helped suppress my hives. I went to a doctor after the Claritin wore off after 4 months and he said to go on an alternate medication until the Claritin was completely out of my system and try it again. He also said the hives would most likely burn themselves out after a couple of years. Mine have pretty much done just that, and it's been a little over 2 years. I took Claritin during the day and Benadryl at night every night to help suppress the hives. If I went off of either, had an immediate flare up that could result in anaphylactic shock...luckily that never happened either.

All I can suggest, is go be tested by a good allergist/immunologist. Sometimes the hives can be caused by so many things in different people such as a tooth/gum infection, sensitivity to salicylates, which are in many, many foods and over the counter medicines such as aspirin, which is a very common culprit which increases sensitivity and hive outbreaks.

There is also a group, ICUS (International Chronic Urticaria Society) that can lead you to more information. The url is www.urticaria.thunderworksinc.com/

There is a very good Yahoo Group that I believe is called Chronic Urticaria or just Urticaria. Do a search
in Yahoo Groups under either and you will find it. Many helpful and knowledgeable people who have much experience living with this.

I hope some of this information helps - hives are sheer hell to live with.

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future_uncertain
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posted December 30, 2004 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, they are! Just a constant annoyance. Thank you for the information. I began getting my hives in the spring of 2002. I remember how it started: I was going through an extremely stressful time and I felt everyday like I was just going to "pop" or something. I also noticed my palms and the bottoms of my feet were itchy all the time. Then I started breaking out around the back of my neck. My boyfriend at the time worked at a grain elevator and I thought he had brought home some mites. Then they spread over my entire body, especially my arms, abdomen, and legs (I guess that's my entire body, isn't it!) What happens is that I'll start feeling itchy and when I scratch, the places I scratch turn into hives. And "don't scratch" is not a solution because it's unbearable!

It's good to talk through someone else who is going through this. Sounds like such a minor thing, but it's definitely no fun! I haven't been to an allergist (no insurance) but I'd like to go as soon as I can. Thanks again.

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Gia
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posted January 09, 2005 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Hives is normally a reaction to something the body cannot deal with. Chemicals can cause hives outbreaks both chronic and acute. A sudden allergy to a shampoo or a soap and maybe even a certain food can often set hives in motion.

A couple of viruses can also cause hives such as Epstein Barr, Hepatitis B are the most common ones. Studies have also linked hives to yeast infections and antibiotics. Some people get hives after bad throat infections. Be very careful to be gentle with your skin. Make sure the water is not hot but like warm to cool. Try homeopathic remedies Bovista, Cantharis and Rhus Toxicodendron to alleviate symtoms. These are not expensive and do work.

Please write back and let me know how you are.

Gia

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posted January 17, 2005 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Hello, Gia.

Sorry for the wait on my reply... I kind of lost this topic in the shuffle!

What you said about the hot water makes sense. I take hot showers and it really makes my hives flare up. Little ideas like these go a long way to alleviate the day to day annoyance of being itchy all the time!

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posted October 18, 2005 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
*bump for BlueTopaz*

Are you still getting your hives?

I still am. Claritin still works for me, but what I really want is for these things to just go away!

Every single day... for three and a half years now.

Just checking in to see how yours are...

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BlueTopaz124
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posted October 19, 2005 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
Hi future...I'm so sorry to read that you are still having outbreaks, and every day! Man! You might want to switch to another medication. The Claritin sounds like it's losing its effectiveness. Your body could have adjusted to it and is no longer effective. Claritin is essentially Loratadine (generic name) 10mg in the over-the-counter version. You probably know you can buy Loratadine under many store brand names for much less than the Claritin brand name. Rite Aid is a good alternative for the same thing, and Costco sells their Kirkland brand pretty inexpensively too, it's called AllerClear.

At the time the Claritin wore off, my doctor gave me a prescription for Zyrtec, which is Cetirizine HCl (generic name), an alternate to Loratadine. He had me take this for about 8-10 weeks to give the Claritin a chance to work its way out of my system and then go back on Claritin. He agreed that Claritin was the most effective and since the patent wore off is now available over the counter and less expensive. Zyrtec is only available prescribed, but I found I could purchase the generic version from Canada (and very inexpensively I might add) sold under the name Reactine, produced by Pfizer.

You might want to check with your doctor before trying any alternate medication to be sure you won't have any problems. I am only suggesting Zyrtec/Cetirizine because my doctor prescribed it.

I went through www.canadapharmacy.com to buy the Reactine/Cetirizine HCL.

Let me know what you find. I really hope you find relief soon my friend. Hives are no picnic. Be sure you have an EpiPen available in the case of severe flare ups of the hives. You know there is always the risk of anaphylactic shock with hives/allergic reactions. Not something to take lightly.

My hives, thankfully have gone away, it was a little over a year ago that realized I was no longer breaking out once when I forgot to take the Loratadine and nothing happened - no hives! When I was actively going through the breakouts every single day, I would dread the 6:30-7:00pm hour when I would experience exactly what you described - the tingling & burning which would soon become a warm/burning/itching mass all over. I'm not talking mosquito-bite itch, but that all consuming itch over huge patches on my legs and hips/waist area. Awful doesn't even begin to describe it. Again, I hope you find relief very soon. Suffering from Urticaria/Hives, don't you get a little consumed with trying to find ways for relief because you literally cannot concentrate on anything else at the time of the breakout? Blech.

Let me know how you're doing, future, and if you were able to switch medications. Take care,
Laura

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posted October 19, 2005 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
I'm glad to hear your hives have gone away!

When I take the Claritin (actually, what I take is an off-brand version) my breakouts are small and tolerable. However, if I bump my head, for example, I will get a hive there. When I go off the meds for a few days, they start coming back in full force, so I try to take them every few days or so.

What stumps me is that I've had them for 3 1/2 years now! I wish I knew why and what causes them. I haven't been to an allergist yet, and if it keeps up a lot longer, I'll check into that.

I'm just glad to know someone else who has suffered from this same condition. There have been times when I've waken up to find that I've scratched so much in the night that I've drawn blood. Then I have those icky scabs on my legs...

I get them mostly on my thighs. And if I run out of medicine and go off it for a while my head and ears break out. And you're right... it does drive you crazy! You can't do anything when you're that itchy.

Thanks again. Knowing that yours have gone away give me some hope that someday mine will too!

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firelights
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posted October 19, 2005 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firelights     Edit/Delete Message
ive been suffering from hives for the last one and a half yrs. ive tried lots of things.these helped.

1. fresh juice of coriander…one teaspoon thrice a day…can also be used externally.
2. cumin coriander seeds and fennel also help
3. cow’s milk’s ghee…balances pitta
4. coconut milk,pears,rose water
5. coconut oil applied on skin helps
6. cup of warm milk with cardamom before bedtime
7. neem
8. pranayama/ breathing exercise on empty stomach…
9. deep breaths during the day
10. breathing with left nostril
11. green tea
12. b complex
13. vitamin c
14. nimbu paani/ lemon water after meals
15. amla (I don’t know wat u call it in English) after meals
16. alpha 3 omega acids…fish oil
17. avoid heavy exercise, heat, stress…light exercise,yoga works better.
18. fish posture in yoga, bow posture
ill list more…….

love n healing to u

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future_uncertain
Knowflake

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posted October 19, 2005 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, firelights. I am sorry to hear that you have hives, too.

You've given me lots of suggestions that I haven't tried. I'll let you know how it goes!

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thebigeliza
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posted October 28, 2005 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thebigeliza     Edit/Delete Message
Wow im happy i came across this!! My mother,grandmother and I have been suffering from hives all our lives.We have had tests done but doctors cannot find any reason for it...they just told us to take benadryl 2-4 times a day....for the rest of our lives??!!
I find that i get hives most often when its cold out or when something was rubbing on my skin.My mother on the other hand gets them all the time (everyday!) so we dont even know what causes hers.Any comments on this subject would help me and my family...im going to check out that website and some of these helpful hints...thanks alot!!! love, Eliza

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BlueTopaz124
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posted October 29, 2005 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
Eliza,

Do a search in Yahoo Groups for the Urticaria group and send in a request to become a member. There are a lot of sufferers like you, your mother and grandmother...it's a very frustrating thing to go through, especially if even the doctors cannot help.

Try Claritin, to see how that helps - take one first thing in the morning because it has a similar effect as caffeine and until your body adapts, you will feel like you drank 2-3 cups of coffee. Benadryl, I was taking at night because of the side effect of drowsiness, couldn't live with during the day having to work. My doctor recommended this combination, Claritin during the day/Benadryl at night to keep the hives suppressed and said they might burn themselves out after a year or two and mine did! When my hives were active, it was sheer hell, they appeared every single night around 6:30-7pm like clockwork, I used to dread it until my doctor recommended Claritin and they began selling it over the counter, dropping the price considerably.

In the case of your mother and grandmother, have them check with their doctor first to be sure neither of these will interfere or cause problems with any medications they might also need to take for other health reasons.

Let me know how you're doing too!

hugs,
Laura

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