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Topic: anyone else have major depression/bipolar disorder?
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dorkus_malorkus Knowflake Posts: 695 From: west siiiiide!!!!!!!!! Registered: Jun 2003
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posted January 30, 2005 06:48 PM
It is very painful to cope everyday and I feel so alone. My family has a lot of problems, so if something should happen to me, I will not have anyplace to stay or have anyone to take care of me. The only people I've got right now are the friends I am living with. I am having a thyroid screening maybe next week, I am hoping they will find out what is wrong with me. Does anyone have major depression, or know anybody that does?IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle Moderator Posts: 4460 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted January 30, 2005 11:42 PM
My mother (and I think my sister might be) Bi Polar, my husband struggles with major depression, and I have PTSD.I feel your pain, darlin'. It's nice to see you back, BTW. IP: Logged |
dorkus_malorkus Knowflake Posts: 695 From: west siiiiide!!!!!!!!! Registered: Jun 2003
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posted January 31, 2005 12:53 AM
Sorry to hear that your family suffers from these disorders. (((((((hugs))))))) Well I guess we can only take it one day at a time, right?IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus Knowflake Posts: 1132 From: Fart Ann, NY Registered: Oct 2004
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posted January 31, 2005 01:08 AM
*jumps up and down in the corner* oo mee mee! I've been diagnosed with seasonal affective disorder, but sometimes I question that as I think sometimes it's situational too. Either way, I do go through long periods of depression. I'm in a slump right now actually. And basically the only people I have right now are a very few friends as well! IP: Logged |
tracysalome Knowflake Posts: 103 From: minneapolis minnesota USA Registered: Jan 2005
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posted February 01, 2005 01:34 AM
I haven't ever been professionally diognosed but it runs strong and obvious in my family, most people on my mom's side have it and I know I do too which can be very difficult because i'm a mother of two small children, and I too was in that situation for a long time in my life until I got married. I actually have just begun collecting large crystals of different variety to help me through the tough times. I haven't recieved them yet, I just ordered a bunch but i think they'll help.IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 512 From: north of Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 01, 2005 03:53 AM
I'm so glad this thread is here, Malorkus. My heart goes out to you, and to everyone here. I wish I could give you more than my just my sympathy, my empathy, and compassion. Then again:"My friends, how desperately do we need to be loved and to love. When Christ said that man does not live by bread alone, he spoke of a hunger. This hunger was not the hunger of the body. It was not the hunger for bread. He spoke of a hunger that begins deep down in the very depths of our being. He spoke of a need as vital as breath. He spoke of our hunger for love. "Love is something you and i must have. We must have it because our spirit feeds upon it. We must have it because without it we become weak and faint. Without love our self-esteem weakens. Without it our courage fails. Without love we can no longer look out confidently at the world. We turn inward and begin to feed upon our own personalities, and little by little we destroy ourselves. "With it we are creative. With it we march tirelessly. With it, and with it alone, we are able to sacrifice for others." - Chief Dan George I've suffered from "clinical depression" for the past twelve years, off and on (I'm 26). Tentative diagnosese(sp?) include major depression, bi-polar, cyclothymia and dysthimia (both rapid cycling mood disorders), and social-anxiety, all accompanied by a "suicidal ideology". (And you wonder why they called me "Kurt" at school, - No, I don't think it was just my undying love for his music. Besides having my Aquarius Moon in the 1st, my Sun is lolcated at approx. 14' Scorpio, Venus is in Retrograde(!) at 15' and Uranus is on my MC at 16'. All of them are squaring Jupiter. Did i mention they're in Scorpio!?!?!!??!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!!??!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!!??!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/??? ???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!!??!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/??????????????!!!!!!!!!!! Scorpios can be especially self-destructive. Both Uranus and the Moon have associations with Madness. (You don't say.) Venus in Retrograde has an inferiority complex. Jupiter in Leo squaring Sun/Venus/MC/Uranus has a superiority complex. Scorpios already tend to have one of each. My Ascendant is in the last decan of Capricorn, so I'm like already thin-skinned, and that's making a square to Pluto in the 9th. Ceres is the only thing Conjunct the Ascendant; I'm not sure what it means. Let's see,... I live at home (with the folks), and collect disability. This is the first year I've tried to get it. I feel so guilty. All my friends work, and I have nothing but the most profound admiration for them, hence I end up feeling like the most incredible hypocrite. I've called myself lazy, or a million things, but sometimes I really just have no concept of how to interact with people on an "ordinary" level. Or, its like I'm so flooded with information, emotional or otherwise, that I can't process it all. There's this line from a Neutral Milk Hotel (aka Jeff Mangum) song, "To take on the world at all angles requires a strength I can't use". That about sums it up. I've held several jobs, one for over a year and a half, at a video store. I couldnt resist creating some crazy tension with nearly very customer that came in. I wouldn't even mean to catch their eye, and I'd catch their soul. I couldn't stop myself from imagining what it must be like to be them, and to love myself. I would be adrift on these compulsive tides of humility and arrogance. It was literally exhausting; emotionally, physically, psychically, spiritually. I really do feel like a fish out of water. But enough about me, let's talk about me. I've been smoking pot for as long as I've been depressed. Despite this glaring fact, I think it would be superficial to conclude that the symptom is the sickness. However, the word "exacerbate" does come to mind. I've been trying to quit off and on. I don't know what else to say about that, as my experiences are my own. Suffice it to say that I am adamant and sincere enough in one moment, and indifferent to the earth the next. Honestly, I just think I need a girlfriend. But that would mean breaking my routine. And we can't have that. No, we can't have that. AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I dont' know where or how to meet people anyway. I've got an intimate cabal of close friends. They're encouraging, but there's just this resistance in me to go out and do anything.. besides visit the occassional Barnes and Nobles, just to see if my soul-mate isnt there, peeking out from behind a copy of Proust. Clubs and Bars are so out of the question its not even funny. This will most definitely sound stupid, but, a couple of years ago, I had this really trippy eye-contact with this amazing girl. It was like the answer to my unconscious prayers, right? So, what did I do? That's right, I took off with my tail between my legs. And I've been carefully tormenting myself for it ever since. Whatever. I'd like to leave your with a quote from J.D. Salinger's book, 'Franny and Zooey': "Yes, I have an ulcer! Of course, I have an ulcer! This is Kali Yuga, buddy. The Iron Age. Anybody without an ulcer by the age of sixteen is a ******* spy!" - Zooey Glass
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Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 512 From: north of Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 01, 2005 03:59 AM
and while I'm at it, some poems I wrote, because I'm just desperate to impress:Saved? Your forgiveness mocks my guilt. Your faith insults my struggle. Your love is an impertinence. Your cross just smells like trouble. Your eyes are full of blood. Your skin is weeping pox. Your cheek is very red. Your coat and cloak are lost. And, all the while, you mount a slope, Ascending to your grave, With whips and scorns, and spears and stones, And thorns to bless and save. Why'd you have to be so good? Why'd you have to try? Now nobody can love themself Who doesn't live to die.
Pen and Sword Ripened thoughts to actions tend, As fruit falls from the vine.
But thoughts too long ensconced ferment and are overfed, like rotten fruit that, greedy, clings to parch'd stem. The pen insights a million swords - tis true, and nations, to a noble thought their births belong - But words do not a sword uphold, Nor slackened arms contend; Sharp wills must hearken and be bold For tragedies to mend, And all the world's unblighted hope is nothing without them. You (My Valentine's day poem to Chrissy, 2000) My voice would empty into space And all my genius disappear And understanding have no place Nor echo come Without your ear My blood would run a wintry race And seasons vanish from the year And love, unmet, Would have no face If only you had not been here Bismarck, North Dakota
The sky is a leaden smear. Mown grass clings wet To soccer-balls and shoes. On the sidelines, Discarded orange peels. Drizzle and mist. Cleats talk on moist pavement. Kids and obnoxious exuberance. Mothers and car doors. Anticipated french-fries. Sweaty shin-guards And sweaty shins exposed; Pale as pruned fingers 'neath Band-Aids. Too young to care what's on the radio. Clutching headrests And bouncing in your seat. Catching colds. 'Bismarck' is the capital of what state? Empathy For The Devil Kurt Cobain, you're so vain. - Humble to a fault. Don't you see the irony?; Humility exalts. Such pride demands disparity, And you, Identified with to your shame, Ambitious for some elite obscurity,- How bitter was your sudden fame?; How steep, descent from such a height - I know you wanted to be Rilke, - When, o'ershadowed by very light, An angel of another ilk? Poor Kurt Cobain, profoundly vain, Martyring yourself. - We watched you give it all away, To beg for something else. Kittens, fer Chrissake! Oh you limpid jealous kittens; Idle rascals with delicate wrists, Lost inside of crumpled sweaters; Head-pokers in hollows, Necks, and sleeves; Giant-eyed ambiguities, - 'What do you see?' Curious creatures; Adorable mad-geniuses; Scurriers with purpose; Mewing fellows and frail combatants; Cowering monsters, vicious when teased; Slight presences; Darting ghosts, the color of smoke; Brave little gymnasts; Silly scraping buggers; Tugging pouncers or pouncing tuggers; Graceful klutzes; Trippy wonders, religiously kittens; Not yet arrogant cats. Love (And Everything) I am in love with the dent in your lip. No, not that one, the other one; This shiny pink dent right here in your lip, - And I'm not done kissing it yet; Still thirsty for kisses And cool draughts of you; Sipping sweet comestible breath. How softly light blesses these finger-crushed tresses, And tentative threads of rash, riven dresses. I swear your bruised shoulder is a plum in my teeth. - There is blue, and there is lead, And there is presence in that bruise; Your! bruise. Oh Shoulders! Oh fleshy dented lips of pink! Oh sudden toasters and toast-munching brothers! Valerian drops and Karens! - What is glass?…. But what sudden cold licking; (The dog!) on my earlobe. Now he's a soldier and he can salute! But he doesn't like that, jogging away. "Judgement is the antithesis of understanding." - H.S.Cross IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 512 From: north of Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 01, 2005 05:13 AM
Here the ways of men part: If your desire is for happiness and peace of mind, believe; if you wish to know the truth, inquire. - Friedrich Nietzsche The majority of men do not think in order to know the truth, but, rather, to assure themselves that the life which they are living, and which is both habitual and agreeable to them, is the one that coincides with the truth. - Leo Tolstoy As long as your desire is pleasure, and you cherish your desire, carry on playing like a child; you are not man enough for this. - Hakim Sanai Ignorance is bliss. - Source Unknown Consciousness is unrest. – Arthur Schopenhauer He who increaseth wisdom increaseth sorrow. - Ecclesiastes Sorrow is knowledge, those that know the most must mourn the deepest; the tree of knowledge is not the tree of life. - Lord Byron Does wisdom perhaps appear on the earth as a raven inspired by the smell of carrion? - Friedrich Nietzsche Realists do not fear the results of their study. - Fyodor Dostoievsky Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore. - Andre Gide One cannot reach the dawn except by the path of night. - Kahlil Gibran The sage awakes to light in the night of all creatures. That which the world calls day is the night of ignorance to the wise. - The Bhagavad-Gita Where there is suffering there is holy ground. - Oscar Wilde Have pity on me; for the hand of God hath touched me. - Job Suffering is the ancient law of love; there is no quest without pain; there is no lover who is not also a martyr. - Heinrich Suso I found it hard. It's hard to find. Oh well, whatever, nevermind. - Kurt Cobain Desperation is sometimes as powerful an inspirer as genius. - Benjamin Disraeli What keeps most people from suffering very much is lack of imagination.... Everything great that we know has come from neurotics… never will the world be aware of how much it owes to them, nor above all what they have suffered in order to bestow their gifts on it. - Marcel Proust Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood - Friedrich Nietzsche Nature shows that with the growth of intelligence comes increased capacity for pain, and it is only with the highest degree of intelligence that suffering reaches its supreme point. - Arthur Schopenhauer Stupidity often saves a man from going mad. - Oliver Wendell Holmes I wish I was like you; easily amused. - Kurt Cobain If any man come to me, and hate not his own life, he cannot be my disciple. – Jesus of Nazareth In the psychopathic temperament we have the emotionality which is the sine qua non of moral perception; we have the intensity and tendency to emphasis which are the essence of practical moral vigor; and we have the love of metaphysics and mysticism which carry one's interests beyond the surface of the sensible world. What, then, is more natural than that this temperament should introduce one to regions of religious truth, to corners of the universe, which your robust Philistine type of nervous system, forever offering its biceps to be felt, thumping its breast, and thanking Heaven that it hasn't a single morbid fibre in its composition, would be sure to hide forever from its self-satisfied possessors? If there were such a thing as inspiration from a higher realm, it might well be that the neurotic temperament would furnish the chief condition of the requisite receptivity. - William James I want to love first, and live incidentally. - Zelda Fitzgerald Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. - Aldous Huxley Much madness is divinest sense, to a discerning eye; much sense, the starkest madness. 'Tis the majority in this, as in all, prevails - assent and you are sane; demur, you're straightway dangerous and handled with a chain. - Emily Dickenson The way it is now, the asylums can hold the sane people but if we tried to shut up the insane we would run out of building materials. - Mark Twain I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity. - Edgar Allen Poe Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. - Solomon There is no coming to consciousness without pain. - Carl Jung We need very strong ears to hear ourselves judged frankly. - Michel de Montaigne What good is a philosopher who offends no one? - Diogenes of Sinope They deem him their worst enemy who tells them the truth. - Plato Truthful words are not beautiful; beautiful words are not truthful. - Lao Tzu Be good and you will be lonely. - Mark Twain [Despair] is, one is told, the unforgivable sin, but it is a sin the corrupt or evil man never practices. He always has hope. He never reaches the freezing-point of knowing absolute failure. Only the man of goodwill carries always in his heart this capacity for damnation. - Graham Greene One may smile, and smile, and be a villain. - Shakespeare (Hamlet) He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. - Samuel Johnson We come into the world laden with the weight of an infinite necessity. - Albert Camus Some amount of suffering is always necessary. A ship without ballast cannot go straight. - Arthur Schopenhauer A man should not strive to eliminate his complexes, but to get into accord with them; they are legitimately what directs his conduct in the world. - Sigmund Freud Sorrow is better than laughter, for by the sadness of the face the heart is made better. - The Holy Bible Strength is born in the deep silence of long-suffering hearts; not amid joy. - Felicia D. Hemens Great men have always been of a nature originally melancholy. - Aristotle Affliction is a treasure, and scarce any man hath enough of it. - John Donne Every angel is terrifying. – Rainer Maria Rilke
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virgotaurustaurus Knowflake Posts: 1132 From: Fart Ann, NY Registered: Oct 2004
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posted February 01, 2005 10:26 AM
Neutral Milk Hotel..SWEEET!!!!IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 512 From: north of Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 01, 2005 11:22 AM
I love NMH!IP: Logged |
miss_apples Knowflake Posts: 456 From: white bear lake, MN, USA Registered: Oct 2004
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posted February 01, 2005 11:30 AM
My brother has been diagnosed with bi-polar disorder and ADHD and my mom has been diagnosed with adult ADHD and seasonal depression disorder. I also have/had clinical depression.I will tell you that my brother was really unbalanced when he was growing up, he is 15 now and I can really see improvement, and I definatly dont think its the drugs they have him on. Dorkus...I know you can make it through this hun and you will learn how to manage your bi-polarities and depression in time. Just keep at it and hang in there. IP: Logged |
dorkus_malorkus Knowflake Posts: 695 From: west siiiiide!!!!!!!!! Registered: Jun 2003
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posted February 01, 2005 01:59 PM
Thank you all for you kind words, it helps a lot HSC, Yeah, I smoke too, and I drink occasionally, but sometimes I can't help but think it makes everything worse. And yeah, I think things would be a lot better if I had a boyfriend, too bad you live all the way in MA! VTT, I'll be thinking about you, hoping you get out of that slump! Tracysalome, Yea it runs in my family too. My mom is mentally ill Miss Apples, Thanks for the encouragement
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PinkPearls&Stars Knowflake Posts: 42 From: San Diego, Ca, USA Registered: Apr 2004
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posted February 01, 2005 03:29 PM
all sorts of "chemical imbalances" run on both sides of my family as well. it lead a couple of them to hard drugs, such as my mom who is in rehab right now working on it. ever since i was little i would also go through long bouts of depression and suicidal thoughts. i also felt trapped for a long time, my home/family life was horrible, mentally abusive, and unsupportive, but any other options i had would have been worse, or i was too afraid to make them. i am currently working my way out of a slump that made me literally physically sick do solely to stress and negative mind patterns. (but then again most if not all illnesses stem from these, don't they?). what has helped me is doing a lot of praying. i grew up hearing and not fully comprehending the importance of that, but once i reestablished that personal connection and faith, God has manifested so many miracles for me, and has been with me closely whenever i want Him to be. it also helped to focus attention away from my needs, my depression, my dependencies and start thinking about spreading love to everyone, whether it be through meditation, meditative forgiveness (or just working it out general), or getting out there socially. The Power of Now, Four Agreements, working out, wearing bright or rainbow colors are small but have been mini-helpful habits for me as well. i also do my best to avoid getting sucked in to draining habits such a tv-a-thons, drinking, smoking, and eating a bunch of junk. all of which i used in excess in the past, and has momentarily helped, but only brought me down further and further when it was over. getting away from the comfort that all these things give is a wonderfully rewarding action. my boyfriend was going through really depressive times a couple months ago, and was becoming more and more suicidal. it had been so long since i had gone through such an experience, cause i had worked my way out of it to a point where i couldn't understand how someone could let such things overtake them. in turn i was very unsympathetic, unsupporting, and i would tell him that he shouldn't feel sorry for himself and focus on more important things. then recently i fell into a slump myself and i was able to re-realize how serious and tormenting it can be. it can be just as bad as any other diagnosed illness, but it is never more than we can overcome. i understand that a lot of these helpful words can be more redundant than helpful, but if anything, i'll say a prayer and send love. i know you can get through thislove health happiness IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 512 From: north of Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 02, 2005 12:14 AM
shucks malorkusIP: Logged |
dorkus_malorkus Knowflake Posts: 695 From: west siiiiide!!!!!!!!! Registered: Jun 2003
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posted February 02, 2005 12:22 AM
*hugs PinkPearls&Stars*Well Steve, you never know IP: Logged |
Philbird Knowflake Posts: 1838 From: Douglas, AZ. USA Registered: Jun 2004
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posted February 02, 2005 09:35 PM
If you continue to live in the "past, or the future" You will never live in ther present. You must live in the now! In the now, you are free of the past, and future!
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LibraSparkle Moderator Posts: 4460 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted February 02, 2005 11:50 PM
Well hello there, Heart Shaped Steve... how the hell are ya?IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 512 From: north of Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 03, 2005 03:23 PM
Hi LibraSparkle.Fancy meeting you here. IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus Knowflake Posts: 1132 From: Fart Ann, NY Registered: Oct 2004
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posted February 03, 2005 06:20 PM
PinkPearls, I come from a home life that's similar...what a lot of work to be done after being around mentally abusive, negative people! I'm not even out yet (seems like I only have a month to go before I am living with my bestest friend in the whooooole world!)! IP: Logged |
PinkPearls&Stars Knowflake Posts: 42 From: San Diego, Ca, USA Registered: Apr 2004
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posted February 08, 2005 12:30 AM
that's awesome, im glad you've found an escape route! i wish you happier times and living quarters with them!IP: Logged | |