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pixelpixie
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posted February 27, 2006 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not looking forward to it, but it must be done.
I am having a dental surgery on Wednesday. The Moon's okay as far as I remember, not in Capricorn or anything.... I think it'll be Aries ( new beginnings, also after a new moon) Of course, Aries rules the head.. so hmmmmmm... well anyway, it took a long time to get the appointment so I am not cancelling it.

The problem I have with it is this..
I have never been under general anesthesia before. Yes I am twenty nine. Not had any major accidents, ( I have been lucky) the only thing I have been in hospital for was to have my babies. And even then, I had midwives, so it was very non invasive. ( well, the second baby, anyway)
This will be in a dental surgeon's office, shouldn't take too long, but I am terrified.
Cold sweat terrified.
My husband's like "But you're the toughest chick I know."
I don't feel very tough.
I feel like whimpering.. :"Don't go near my mouth with a scalpel!!
Don't put me to sleep, what if I am allergic and I die?
What if this sinisitis I have had for weeks interferes with my breathing and I die?"

They have to go into my gum and remove an impacted tooth from my bone. ( the tooth isn't needed, and is pushing on my front teeth, causing pain and abcesses) I have put it off for years. But I have to face it.

Just bellyaching here, please send me some love and light to give me courage.
Thank You.

The good part is.. the antibiotics they will give me after to prevent infection will help my sinuses, hopefully... ( the part of my daughter's cold I got, and it won't go away)
and my mouth being in pain and icky will prevent me from sticking a cigarrette in it.
I might take off that four pounds that stopping smoking snuck onto my thighs.
( though once again, Hubby said he likes them)

okay, I'll stop now, just nervous...

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SunChild
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posted February 27, 2006 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Pixi~

Your spirit is strong, and I doubt very much you'll decide to leave your body during the anesthesia. Your strong enough to go through and come out, you know you will be fine.

I've been under three times, all ok...(my silly mummy got the doctor to take my tonsils and adenoids out)...when I woke up I couldn't breath out of my nose. And here I am today!

Sending you light, and an angel or two to comfort.


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Bluemoon
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posted February 27, 2006 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluemoon     Edit/Delete Message
I feel your pain, Pix!!! I know you dont like to take drugs but anti anxitey medication would really help you. you will be fine. Sorry you are so stressed. The best to you.

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Gooberzlostlovefound
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posted February 27, 2006 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gooberzlostlovefound     Edit/Delete Message
Oh my god, I totally sympathize! I got all four wisdom teeth removed last summer, and I was so terrified, pixelpixie.

You may have the option of using laughing gas or something called verset. I chose verset because I was afraid of being put under, and I would recommend it. I was conscious during the operation, yet extremely sleepy and relaxed, and didn't feel any pain. You may want to ask your doctor about this option.

I hate to say it, but if you're really scared, you may want to try xanax. I'm terrified of flying and avoid it like the plague, but if I ever need to, I take xanax and it does work. If you're opposed to taking something prescription, you may want to try Bach Rescue Remedy. (you're probably familiar with it, huh?) It's not nearly as strong but it does help a little.

Anyhow, just trying to be helpful. I hope you find something that will ease your nerves a little. You will be okay, really! I know, it IS scary. I am a total wuss when it comes to any kind of operation, so I sympathize. (not that you're a wuss! lol okay I am not really helping, am I?) Anyhow, you will be totally fine, and you'll feel so good afterwards knowing it's OVER and done with.

Sending you love,
GLLF

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lotusheartone
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posted February 27, 2006 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Hi dear sweet Pixelpixie,

For some reason I was drawn to this, I jjust read in one of Mary Summer Rain's books that oral surgery is not good after a new moon, before is a great time..
perhaps you are having anxiety about this for a reason..can you handle the pain for a little while longer?
I had four impacted teeth pulled out(wisdomteeth, hehe) and my jaw has never been the same..all for braces and straight teeth, hey I liked the space between my two front teeth, now it's gone, lol..

just food for thought, go with how you feel about it..

Sending you lots of Love. ...

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pixelpixie
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posted February 28, 2006 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you all for your thoughts and comforts!

I can't put off the surgery.. I made the appointment in November, after putting it off for about a year and a half at least.... and then it was changed from the 22nd of Feb, to Mar 1st. I can't put it off.

I have to buck up.

This Rescue Remedy you speak of????
Will it make me a little relaxed? Any contra indications with anesthesia?

*tries to relax*

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Gooberzlostlovefound
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posted February 28, 2006 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gooberzlostlovefound     Edit/Delete Message
well, it ain't xanax, but it probably can't hurt. I doubt it has any contra-indications, but I don't know for sure.

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teaselbaby
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posted February 28, 2006 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teaselbaby     Edit/Delete Message
I have to go through this when I can afford it as well ~ a problem with a wisdom tooth last October worried me, so I have to.

I went "under" with the gas when I had to have two teeth removed as a child ~ dickhead of a dentist aside (got ticked off because I was freaked out), the gas worked quickly. I was wobbly when I woke up, and did throw up once later on while recovering, but I was fine otherwise.

*edit. Last year, a woman from another board mentioned how she had to have oral surgery, and she was scared ~ she thought about angels, and I can't remember everything she said, but the basic idea was that she called in Dentistry angels and asked them to help make the surgery as painless as possible for her. Sounds a bit silly, but it's worth a try.

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teaselbaby
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posted February 28, 2006 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teaselbaby     Edit/Delete Message
Here is a link to an article that mentions rescue remedy and surgery/anaesthesia ~ it's about use with animals, though.
http://www.caberfeidh.com/Flowers.htm
An excerpt:
If you are the kind of person who wants all the "i"s dotted and the "t"s crossed, flower remedies are probably not for you. Prepared from flower blossoms floated on water according to the 19th century instructions of English homeopathic physician Edward Bach, the remedies are not exactly herbal and not exactly homeopathic. Considering that for some not even the substantial body of well-documented scientific and clinical evidence supporting homeopathy and herbal medicine is enough to give credibility to their practice, flower remedies are an even tougher nut to crack. And yet....

They work. Without a doubt, again and again, I have seen pets and wild animals respond to the remedies. In fact, although of course people take the remedies as well, I find that they work far better on animals than on people, or at least more quickly.

I cannot tell you why or how the remedies work, but I can tell you some of my experiences with them.

The most popular of the remedies is actually a combination called the Rescue Remedy. It is also knows as Five Flowers, Calming Essence, and Nature's Rescue. Even stores that don't sell the remedies usually sell this one. The most dramatic evidence of its efficacy was when I had to take a puppy for a rabies vaccination. She had never been to a vet, and was in a state of complete panic. The vet just squirted a little Rescue Remedy in her mouth and she fell asleep in my arms. She didn't even wake up for the shot!

My mother's dog, Duffy, had to have emergency surgery to remove a foxtail from her foot. As she came out of the anesthesia, I put a few drops of rescue remedy on her tongue every few minutes. Both the vet and his assistant, who did not know what I was doing, commented that they had never seen a dog come out of anesthesia so quickly and with as little confusion or crying. A week later another dog had to have the same surgery at the same vet (a bad summer for foxtails!) and I had no remedy with me. This time the dog cried and thrashed and took over an hour to come out of her anesthesia. The technician was so impressed with what she saw that she went out and got some rescue remedy and now gives it to her dogs.

A friend of mine was at a dog show in Southern California, when her ***** escaped from her pen and ran out into traffic. My friend tore out after her, to find her dog frozen in the middle of the street, cars swerving and honking. My friend finally got her back, but both of them were shaking, and the dog was clearly in a form of shock. Her eyes were glazed and her pupils were dilated, and it was impossible to get her attention. I gave her and her owner some Rescue Remedy, and the dog simply snapped out of it, and sailed into the show ring with her owner. (The owner improved as well, although not as dramatically as the dog.)

Some people use flower remedies on deep psychological or behavior problems, such as obsessive behavior, barking, jealousy, digging, chewing, and aggression. Others use them for physical problems as well, such as allergies, infections, and injuries. I tend to use them most for "first aid," but have had good luck using them to integrate new animals into the household, as well as on dogs who won't focus in training class. Some remedies work on helping a shy dog become a bit more confident; the remedy I've had the most luck for that purpose is Larch. Many trainers routinely use the Rescue Remedy on dogs in their classes.

I always give newborn puppies a combination of the Rescue Remedy and Walnut essence. Walnut is for entering into a new stage of life, and birth seems to qualify. I also give that combination to the mother during her labor.

~~~~~
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/8538/floraisbaching.html
Rescue Remedy® :

For emergency situations, Dr. Bach created a combination of Bach Flower that called Rescue Remedy®, which is composed by the 5 remedies: Impatiens, Star of Bethlehem, Cherry Plum, Rock Rose and Clematis. The Rescue Remedy® Cream is also available, with Crab Apple joined, for external used as a ointment.

The base indications for Rescue Remedy® are:

* Acute and emergency cases;

* Anticipatory suffering situations (before exams, interviews, dentist, surgery, etc.);

* It also could be used after acute situations, such as post surgery, etc..

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lotusheartone
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posted February 28, 2006 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Pixelpixie,

hmmm, it seems you should have been given antibiotics prior to surgery, who goes into
surgery with any kind of infection, you want to be at your best..
why so long for an appointment, I moving back to the U.S. in about a week, can I make you an appointment, you can pretend to be me and use my dental insurance, just kidding, hehe..
do you have dental Insurance..

seems so long to wait..
that doesn't happen in the U.S. You can get an appointment much quicker..

do you have any swelling now?

I'm sending you lots of Healing Love. ...

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pixelpixie
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posted February 28, 2006 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
It is recurrent infection in my gums.. every once and a while it will swell in an abcess.. but it is okay right now.
Don't worry, the dentist knows what he is doing. The antibiotics are to prevent infection after the surgery, a common practice.

It depends.. right now healthcare seems to be the most frustrating thing I deal with.
I have dental insurance. That is not the issue.. It is a dental surgeon, so often you have to wait to schedule one, when it is convenient. He is also a very good one, according to my regular dentist, so that is a part of the wait... I could go into the phone book and find pages and pages of dentists, but I guess I want a certain standard, and I have met him and he is good.

Doctors, on the other hand... oh my.
Too long to post.
I will not defend the merits of Canadian versus American healthcare system. I'm sorry you hate Canada so much and can't wait to leave, but let's just say, I am here to stay.
There are kinks that need to be worked out, but I would never give up mine and my family's right for free healthcare.
We need more practicing Doctors. Many are specializing (more money)or leaving to go elsewhere or retiring. I have 'lost' four Doctors. I still have access to walk in clinics, if only i enjoyed waiting rooms...
But this is a dental thread, and so it shall remain.
anyway.. I am looking into Rescue remedy tonight. Thank you for the suggetion, Teasel!
*bark bark*

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LibraSparkle
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posted March 01, 2006 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Actually... here (in the US) you often have to wait long times to get in to see the doctor.

I had to make a Gyno appointment a few weeks ago, and I'm not getting in until the middle of March.

Although, I usually get same day appointments with my regular doc. Specialists are also very hard to get in to see.

I've been thinking about going up to Canada to get Lasic surgery. I hear it's a lot cheaper up there... and being that I have one of the crappiest insurances EVER, they don't cover Lasic.

My friends and I just made a trip up to Seattle over the weekend. We had loads of fun! They found out I'd never been to Canada (or Canadia, as they affectionately call it). After giving me a good ration of $hit about having never been, they insisted that we take a road trip up there this summer.

I suppose it is a little sad that I've never been... I've lived about 9 hours away for the last 16 years. I've met loads of cool Canadians (mostly here and Tom Petty concerts)... I've gotta get up there! I MUST visit the country that produced all of these great people! (And pick up some Codeine )

Pix,

Sorry... kinda rambled on off topic

Deep breaths, sistah. You've so got this!

Looking to relax? Kava Kava is good. Also, somewhere I remember Randall saying that calcium has a calming effect. Maybe make sure you're getting enough calcium.

I know from recent experience that food or drink in your system while under a general anesthetic is sure to cause nausea.

Did they give you a time limit for food and drink the night before?

Let us know how it goes!

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pixelpixie
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posted March 02, 2006 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
It's done.

I was concerned with the general anesthesia, as i'd never had it before, but the Doctor was very good at explaining what I could expect. I don't even recall going under, just the waking up process, in sections.
My veins had receeded though, due to nervousness, which always seems to happen to me when an IV is being administered ( not that I've had many) but I hear the same thing each time.. 'where are your veins?'
So they tried at a few different sites, not that it hurt much, just they couldn't pierce the vein.... so I have a total of six tries on my arm, and then finally, the other side they got it. Then poof, sleep.
It was more invasive than they expected, said I was a tough cookie, though all this. They had to make several incisions, as my tooth was hooked into the bone and broke upon removal ( which is why it was there in the first place, I imagine, it never grew downwards because it couldn't.)
So as a result the roof of my mouth and my gumline is covered in stitches. It is swollen and painful and I miss eating. Luckily there is no 'socket' hole to worry about, as it was internal, just stitches everywhere.
So that is my experience.
Now that I have had general anestheia, I'm okay with it.
It has entered the realm of experience, not speculation and fear.. so that's good.
AND.. it's done.(pphew)
I feel like I am preparing myself this last little while, to 'get on with things' in life.
Mercury retro caused some computer issues and communication problems for me in regards to the course I am taking in school.... but I'll get through it... just such a crappy time physically to try to do a good job in anything. I am not going back to work until sunday, but even then, the nurse said.. 'we'll see', as I said, it was a bit more invasive than anyone predicted.

I'm here, I am a trooper.
Thanks for all your help and good thoughts.
As long as I keep myself regular on the meds ( two tylenol threes every three hours the first day) I only 'start' to feel some pain, the rest of the time, as you mentioned before, Librasparkle, I am pretty groggy and high feeling.

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Gooberzlostlovefound
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posted March 03, 2006 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gooberzlostlovefound     Edit/Delete Message
glad you are okay!

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Harpyr
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posted March 08, 2006 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
hi pixie!

I'm glad to hear that it went well!

I just wanted to say that if you are on a course of antibiotics then it might be a good idea to make sure you are giving your body plenty of the 'good' bacteria to make sure your body doesn't get too out of whack.
There are lots of good probiotic supplements out there you could take or at the very least eat a good quality live culture yogurt everyday- nothing with alot of sugar.

Hope you have a speedy recovery!

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