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ListensToTrees
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posted March 09, 2008 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Why is it, when one person says something cruel/ unkind....why is it that this drowns out all the other good things; the love and kindness people have given, etc- in a person's mind?

Maybe......

Yesterday, I wrote this down:

"Our sense of reality is defined by the doors of our perception, and what we focus on becomes our experience".

So......

Why are the negative things so seductive to my focus?


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"To err is human, to forgive divine"
~Alexander Pope

"It's just a ride & we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings & money, a choice, right now, between fear & love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy guns, close yourself off, the eyes of love instead see all of us as one".....
~Bill Hicks

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ListensToTrees
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posted March 09, 2008 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
The messages in water (I posted before):

http://www.youtube.com/v/XWmWWqm1hFs

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ListensToTrees
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posted March 09, 2008 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Ahimsa (nonviolence)

Mahavir said that nonviolence must begin in the mind. Unless the mind is compassionate, nonviolence is not possible. Unless one is at ease in the inner world, one cannot practise nonviolence in the external world. If the mind is condemning other people yet the tongue speaks sweet words, then that is not nonviolence. The seeds of nonviolence live within the inner consciousness. Keeping consciousness pure is therefore an essential part of Jain nonviolence. Pure consciousness means consciousness that is uncorrupted, uncontaminated and undiluted with the desire to control others.

Why are we violent? Jains would answer that it is because people wish to control others. People say: "We own everything here. This world is for our benefit." Those who eat meat say: "Animals and fish are there for our food." Everything is for us and we are the masters of nature. This is the violence of the mind, which leads to physical violence.

Mahavir saw the world as a sacred place. The birds, the flowers, the butterflies and the trees are sacred; rivers, soil and oceans are sacred. Life as a whole is sacred. All our interactions with other people and with the natural world must be based on this sacred trust, on deep reverence for all life.
Nonviolence of the mind should be translated into nonviolence of speech.

Harmful, harsh, untrue, unnecessary, unpleasant and offensive speech is violence. Skilful use of language is a sacred skill. Mahavir insisted that we must understand others fully before we speak. Language can express only partial truth; therefore nonviolence is an essential guide to our spoken words. In this context Mahavir put a very high value on silence. A Jain monk is called muni, which means 'the silent one'.

Nonviolence of mind and speech leads to the nonviolence of action. Ends cannot justify means. Means must be compatible with ends. Therefore, all human actions must be friendly, compassionate and unaggressive. Do no harm. No ifs and no buts. No compromise. Mahavir's nonviolence is unconditional love to all beings.

Thus nonviolence is the paramount principle of the Jains. All other principles stem from nonviolence. Nonviolence is first and last. Because all life is sacred we may not violate or take advantage of those life forms which may be weaker than ourselves. Ahimsa is much more than "Live and let live": it is "Live and love."
http://www.resurgence.org/satish/kumar-jain.htm

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ListensToTrees
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posted March 09, 2008 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
By choosing your thoughts,
and by selecting which emotional currents you will release
and which you will reinforce,
you determine the quality of your Light.
You determine the effects that you will have upon others,
and the nature of the
experiences of your life.

~ Gary Zukav - from "Seat Of The Soul" ~

If we understood the power of our thoughts,
we would guard them more closely.
If we understood the awesome power of our words,
we would prefer silence to almost anything negative.
In our thoughts and words we create
our own weaknesses and our own strengths.
Our limitations and joys begin in our hearts.
We can always replace negative with positive.

~ Bettie Eadie (from 'Embraced By the Light') ~

Keep your thoughts positive,
because your thoughts become your words.
Keep your words positive,
because your words become your behaviours.
Keep your behaviours positive,
because your behaviours become your habits.
Keep your habits positive,
because your habits become your values.
Keep your values positive,
because your values become your destiny.

~ Gandhi ~

http://www.sapphyr.net/smallgems/quotes-thoughts-create-realilty.htm


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jane
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posted March 09, 2008 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
LTT - Sorry to bring astrology into this, but I'm curious. In which house do you have Uranus and does it make any aspects?

I enjoy your thoughtfulness and appreciate & can relate to your sensitivity. Sensitivity can feel like a curse rather than a gift when you care too much about what another person thinks. People's thoughts about you (or anything else) aren't you; they're them. Do you have a firm sense of who you are and how valuable you are?

Wonderful quotes. Thanks for sharing them.

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ListensToTrees
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posted March 09, 2008 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, jane.
quote:
Do you have a firm sense of who you are and how valuable you are?

Sometimes.
And then other times- not at all.

Here is my chart:

Sun Square Mars 2°42
Sun Square Jupiter 3°18
Sun Quincunx Ascendant 1°44
Moon Trine Mercury 0°45
Moon Sextile Neptune 1°47
Moon Conjunction Pluto 0°42
Mercury Square Saturn 0°59
Mercury Opposition Neptune 2°32
Mercury Trine Pluto 0°03
Venus Sextile Mars 4°58
Venus Sextile Jupiter 1°02
Venus Opposition Ascendant 4°00
Mars Conjunction Jupiter 6°00
Mars Trine Ascendant 0°58
Jupiter Trine Ascendant 5°02
Saturn Sextile Uranus 2°52
Saturn Square Neptune 1°33
Neptune Sextile Pluto

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"To err is human, to forgive divine"
~Alexander Pope

"It's just a ride & we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings & money, a choice, right now, between fear & love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy guns, close yourself off, the eyes of love instead see all of us as one".....
~Bill Hicks

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jane
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posted March 10, 2008 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
Hey LTT.

Here's what I'm zeroing in on: Uranus in the 10th house, square your NN by degree. The MC's ruler conjunct your Moon by degree. And Mercury in your 5th house trines that conjunction and also opposes your 12th house Neptune.

I guess this hinges a lot on how you interpret the 10th house. I think of the sign on the cusp as the role we see ourselves playing in public life, the attitude we're meant to go out into the world with. And the planets in that house are the specific ways that we'll express that attitude. You'll be a deep, passionate (Scorpio) individualist (Uranus). The thing about the 10th house though, in my view, is that we need the public to play along for us to play our part. If the public challenges your individuality, you'll feel disconnected from your individual strength, much more than you would if Uranus were in, say, your 1st or 4th house. Your individualism--the part of you that says, "I am who I am; deal with it" to others--is linked with the public recognizing it.

Uranus square your NN could mean that developing your individuality is essential for your personal growth, but that the process of doing so will be difficult/painful.

A reason it could be painful is b/c the ruler of your MC--Pluto--is tightly conjunct your Moon. You very much feel the public's reaction to you. And your very individuality is what they're reacting to! That must hurt when you feel like that which sets you apart from others is what's judged harshly. But your individuality is a gift and is an integral part of your soul growth this life, plus it's something that you have to offer to the public since it's in the 10th. Try not to let the fools who can't handle it get you down, b/c many others are recognizing your Uranus traits and learning from them.

But see, b/c it's in the 10th, you may feel dependent on that positive feedback before you can adequately value your own Uranus traits, since it feels like something you're supposed to be giving to others.

Since your Moon-Pluto conj is exactly trine your Mercury, the public's perception of you is inherently tied to your thought process. So you don't just feel what they feel about you (MC ruler on your Moon), you spend time thinking about it too. And as you pointed out in your first post, what we think about becomes our reality. So other people's thoughts and reactions to you easily become your reality.

Exacerbating this is Neptune in the 12th opposing your 5th house Mercury. Your 5th house self--uninhibited self-expression--is constantly hit by your awareness of the collective. You're probably very sensitive to other people's moods and will sense their reaction to your self-expression even when they don't say anything. Since you're already dealing with that, it must be very tough when cruel words are added to the experience.

Your Uranus also widely opp your 4th house Chiron, so whenever your Uranus gets hit, you feel it very deeply, and self-soothe yourself out of the pain.

Chiron on the IC could mean many things, but maybe you could contrast it with Uranus in the 10th. Do you naturally feel and value the wounded healer part of your personality, whether or not you share it with others? If others insulted those traits of yours, I'm guessing it would anger you more than hurt you, b/c you'd be mad that they're not seeing the truth. You know that your Chiron is an essential part of who you are, regardless of what other people think. Whereas when someone insults your Uranus traits, it probably hurts more than angers you, b/c you don't have as tight a grasp on that planet. You need others to see it and value it.

I'm not really sure what the astrological path is out of that. You do have Uranus in a supportive sextile with Saturn in your 8th house in Virgo. Perhaps you could limit (Saturn) your reaction to the public, by intelligently focusing (Virgo) on those who support you and encourage the growth of your Uranus traits. Those will likely be other deep, thoughtful people (8th house).

I'm still at the buffoon level of astrology, so take everything I've said with a grain of salt. But I hope that I may have stumbled across some things that may help you feel more comfortable with Uranus. (I so badly want to put a wink here.)

Take care.

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ListensToTrees
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posted March 10, 2008 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, jane.

That was very interesting. I appreciate it.

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"To err is human, to forgive divine"
~Alexander Pope

"It's just a ride & we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings & money, a choice, right now, between fear & love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy guns, close yourself off, the eyes of love instead see all of us as one".....
~Bill Hicks

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posted March 10, 2008 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
I'd pinpoint the issue as your chart ruler, saturn in virgo square mercury. As well as your tight pluto/moon conjunction.

Your pluto/moon conjunction and its trine to your sun explains why are your emotions are so strong and overpowering, and also why you are so well in touch with them and express them well. ALso explains why you come off as watery so often even though you are an airy person by nature

Saturn in virgo in the 8th indicates a need to be useful to others. This position means you must be of service in society to boost your self esteem. You, moreso than most people, have you identity and self esteem strongly tied into your thoughts, as seen by your strongly mercury dominated chart. THe harsh part is that mercury squares your chart ruler, creating a tension between the way you think, and the way that you appear to society, and your reputation. Try not to let others opinion dictate who you are, as mentioned above. Saturn in virgo tells you by offering humble service you will fulfill the most of your karmic destiny. The 8th house also tells us that you must sublimate and give up contorl, ad the 8th house often indicates other peoples control over you. Perhaps when someone insults you if you simply allow it to happen, instead of resisting or trying to change it, you will be able to flow through the pain and step back into the flow of things.


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