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angel_of_hope
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posted April 25, 2008 03:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message
PETA Offers $1 Million Reward to First to Make In Vitro Meat
In Vitro Meat

Scientists around the world are researching or seeking the funds to research ways to produce meat in the laboratory—without killing any animals. In vitro meat production would use animal stem cells that would be placed in a medium to grow and reproduce. The result would mimic flesh and could be cooked and eaten. Some promising steps have been made toward this technology, but we're still several years away from having in vitro meat be available to the general public.

PETA is now stepping in and offering a $1 million reward to the first scientist to produce and bring to market in vitro meat.

Why is PETA supporting this new technology? More than 40 billion chickens, fish, pigs, and cows are killed every year for food in the United States in horrific ways. Chickens are drugged to grow so large they often become crippled, mother pigs are confined to metal cages so small they can't move, and fish are hacked apart while still conscious—all to feed America's meat addiction. In vitro meat would spare animals from this suffering. In addition, in vitro meat would dramatically reduce the devastating effects the meat industry has on the environment.

Of course, humans don't need to eat meat at all—vegetarians are less likely to get heart disease, diabetes, or various types of cancer or become obese than meat-eaters are—and a terrific array of vegetarian mock meats already exist. But as many people continue to refuse to kick their meat addictions, PETA is willing to help them gain access to flesh that doesn't cause suffering and death.

Contest Details
Faux Fried Chicken

PETA is offering a $1 million prize to the contest participant able to make the first in vitro chicken meat and sell it to the public by June 30, 2012. The contestant must do both of the following:

• Produce an in vitro chicken-meat product that has a taste and texture indistinguishable from real chicken flesh to non-meat-eaters and meat-eaters alike.
• Manufacture the approved product in large enough quantities to be sold commercially, and successfully sell it at a competitive price in at least 10 states.

Judging of taste and texture will be performed by a panel of 10 PETA judges, who will sample the in vitro chicken prepared using a fried "chicken" recipe from VegCooking.com. The in vitro chicken must get a score of at least 80 when evaluated in order to win the prize.

Click here to read the complete contest rules, or e-mail VegInfo@peta.org to enter.

In the meantime, check out VegCooking.com for delicious, healthy mock-meat recommendations and thousands of tasty, animal-friendly recipes

Source: http://www.peta.org/feat_in_vitro_contest.asp

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I caught this on a radio talk show this morning ... and thought What the Hell?!? ... wondering why PETA would do such a thing and if this was legit, when I got back to the office I went searching. Sure enough it's legit. I'm not sure how I feel. My first thought is NO FREAKIN WAY. It's "created" its "synthetic" .. "its fake"

Maybe I'm misunderstanding a lil bit as well ... how would In Vitro not cause suffering. It's still a life is it not ... I mean they can't just grow chicken breasts, or can they?

Just doesn't seem right. On the radio show they raised the question of "whether or not a Vegan would consider eating this Lab Created Meat?" While I'm not vegan I am intersted to hear some Vegan responses.

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yourfriendinspirit
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posted June 02, 2008 09:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message
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Icky..icky..eww...
anyway I look at it.

I can't help but be reminded that Stem cell experiments continuously lead to genetic mixing of species.
Even animal and humans!
Innocent Example: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7681252/

Is this really a path we even want to go?

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26taurus
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posted June 03, 2008 12:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Ick is right.

Like regular dead meat isnt bad enough.

Havent we been provided with everything we need to eat by mother earth?

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SunChild
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posted June 03, 2008 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Lab grown meat? I don't think that is the answer! I wouldn't eat it, vegan or not.
The world is turning it's back on what is natural and what is true to mother nature. I guess we need to hit rock bottom before we can see the truth. That's ok, its a journey. There are consequences of course, it could have a negative impact on our own dna, I don't know, it really doesn't sit right.

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posted June 03, 2008 03:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message

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Blue_Rain
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posted January 08, 2009 08:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message
This reminds me of Star Trek the next generation. I remember watching a show back in 1988 I think it was where Commander William Riker punches in an order for a meatless meal, it materializes and it looks like the real thing.

Perhaps this will be the way all of humanity will have to eat one day, wether they like it or not. I wouldn't be one bit surprised if it happens.

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vivid_child
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posted January 08, 2009 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vivid_child     Edit/Delete Message
Lab grown meat?! Encouraged by an organisation with the word "ethical" in their name?

Why can't we just eat what's here already

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sunshine_lion
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posted January 08, 2009 03:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message
that sounds disgusting

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posted January 08, 2009 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
Stem Cells are soooo controversial!!!!

It wasn't okay for women to have abortions mid last century, and still today with the aggressive protests that go on, BUT it's okay to inject stem cells into a person who is paralysed to help them walk.

Yet another one of society's hypocritical views.

Mucking around with cloning is bound to have a nasty consequence. If not now, then in the future.

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writesomething
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posted January 08, 2009 09:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message
This sounds gross.

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unconscious honey
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posted January 09, 2009 04:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I don't know, why not? This would save millions of animals....

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posted January 11, 2009 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Honestly, I think it sounds brilliant. It's a practical solution for those who would have carnivores not kill for meat.

The science behind stuff like this is the same science that will be providing us replacement parts in years to come, so I think it's a good thing to find another application for the technology.

It'll be weird when you're conflicted on eating the meat, but when faced with the real need for a replacement organ you find yourself forced to take the practical solution that uses the same technology.

Interesting stuff.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 11, 2009 02:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I agree, its brilliant.

I can't believe all the negative responses to this.

Sure, its gross, lol.

Sure, it would be ideal if people didnt "need" this,
and could walk away from flesh altogether.

But, realistically, I think many would see it as an alternative to meat --
many who, for whatever reason, are not keen on tempe, seitan, etc.

Or, even a stem in the right direction (of a completely meat-free diet).

This one thing could save tons of lives and eliminate untold suffering.

Even just considering all the bad vibes created
when animals are imprisoned, tortured, and killed.

And the methane from cows that is ripping a new a--hole in the ozone.

This is such a great idea.

Can we come together on anything?

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 11, 2009 02:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message
haha

I said "stem in the right direction".

No pun intended there.

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D for Defiant
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posted January 19, 2009 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message
Mad science.

In vitro meat is still animal derived and hence it is nonvegetarian. For me it is simple- if you can stick to a vegetarian or a vegan diet or even a way of life, do it. If you are not inclined to do so, go your own way and eat whatever you have been eating.

There is something disturbing and intrinsically wrong with such stem cell research. I had heard of the in vitro meat research from PETA long before finding this thread. All I can say is this is insane. How can an animal rights organization support this? With logical deduction, it seems that this new stuff might save numerous animals from being intensively farmed and slaughtered for human consumption, but the process of deriving animal cells to produce in vitro meat is still animal exploitation and the product is, as I mentioned above, animal derived.

This is technology gone wild.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 19, 2009 11:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message
yeah, but its stems cells... you can harvest them in tiny amounts without harming the animals.

dont you think it's at least a step in the right direction, and could be encouraged for that reason?

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posted January 20, 2009 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message
HSC,

I admire your optimism. However, this is not necessarily "the right direction". To me, stem cell research for any reason (e.g. for curing Parkinson's disease), in vitro meat and any novel technology as such, are similar with lobotomy. At first the inventor of lobotomy received a Nobel Prize, then the practice was outlawed due to its severely harmful effects. Likewise, undesirable consequences may very likely arise for the development-in-progress scientific research for in vitro meat. No one can guarantee the safety and well-being of individuals who consume such in vitro meat. It is as controversial as cloning. It involves ethical issues (again, how ironic for an organization like PETA which carries the word "ethical"). It is complicated. I would not embrace the in vitro meat technology without hesitation. In my view, mock meat is sufficient for those who crave the taste of flesh.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 21, 2009 02:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hey D,

For many people unable/unwilling to make the switch to a vegetarian diet, mock meat has not proven to be sufficient. I honestly think there are many people who would eat this stuff, but would shy away from tempe, seitan, tofu, and other meat substitutes. As for the risks.. there are always risks. There are risks with all advances.. electricity... automobiles.. should we walk everywhere, because cars can cause accidents? I think progress needs to be fearless; willing to step into dark rooms, where no precedent lights the way.


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D for Defiant
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posted January 22, 2009 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message
Again, HSC, your optimism is very much appreciated.

But I would not compare automobile with lobotomy, or with stem cell research.

We still need to breed farmed animals to derive a part of them in order to manufacture in vitro meat. We have to breed lab animals. Confining them. Anything "in vitro" is unnatural, and personally, I am against stem cell research. Offering in vitro meat may, on the surface, keep numerous animals from being killed for food; on the other hand, in vitro meat does not ultimately solve the problem concerning omnivores's addiction to flesh. To vegetarianize and vegducate nonvegetarians is to raise awareness and present the facts to them, to provide useful means for changing their twisted taste-buds, not to encourage them to eat more meat, whether real meat or in vitro meat.

I think I could add more to the debate, though my point is to express my personal opinion, not to insist on imposing it on others. I am not an activist. I would not stop humans from experimenting with in vitro meat. They will know what happens after they've eaten such in vitro meat.

P.S. The medical school library where I use the Internet will be closed during the Lunar New Year holiday, and I can only be back to the forums in roughly a bit less than a fortnight, on a Tuesday night, ET.

D

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 24, 2009 09:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi D,

I dont know the details of what is entailed, whether or not it would be necessary to contain large numbers of animals, or what. In any case, it would appear that the number of animals contained would be dramatically lower than in the present situation, while the number of animals bred and killed would be close to zero; if my understanding of how this works is correct. I would like to hear any information you might have which would support the theory that this is likely to have disasterous results. I realize it sounds like something out of science fiction, but that doesnt mean we ought to expect a "creature feature". What exactly do you expect to see? People sprouting superfluous arms or eyeballs? Most of what people ingest these days is scientifically manipulated and artificial to some extent. But, instead of replacing vitamins and minerals with MSG and preservatives, we would replace slaughtered animal flesh with more humanely procured mock flesh. To me that sounds like using technology to go forward instead of backward. You are correct that it would not be treating the cause of the disorder, but, it could seal a few cracks in the dam, while we work to turn off the water. Containing a child-molester may not cure him of his addiction to child-molestation, but if it keeps him from molesting children... I think thats pretty important, don't you? I realize its a little bit like giving the molester lifesize dolls of young children to play with, and this is definitely a relatively sick idea. But isn't it better than giving him real children to molest? -- This seems to me a very satisfactory, if somewhat distasteful, analogy for what we are discussing here.

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D for Defiant
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posted March 02, 2009 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message
Wrong smilie.

Your child molestor analogy for meat-eating is insane reasoning. It shows that your issues are clinical.

I don't have to win the argument to make my point. Let future evidence speak for itself, but in any event, I do not support such experiments. Period.

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