posted September 01, 2009 10:35 PM         

(NaturalNews) Here's a seventh grade word problem for you: If swine flu has infected one million people and killed 500, how many people might be expected to die if it infects 150 million people (assuming no major changes in the virus)? The correct answer, of course, is 75,000 people, and that's within the range of the number of swine flu deaths now being publicly predicted by the White House.

But there's another part to this word problem: How many vaccine shots and hand washings does it take to boost vitamin D levels in the average person?

The question, of course, makes no sense. Vaccine shots don't boost vitamin D levels any more than eating pork infects you with swine flu. So why is the official advice on swine flu protection essentially limited to "wash your hands, get your vaccine shot and cough into your elbow?" (Seriously. I'm not making this up.)

The Associated Press has distilled swine flu advice to "10 things you need to know." None of those ten things include boosting your nutrition, getting more vitamin D or taking anti-viral medicinal herbs. They do, however, include hilarious explanations like "If you develop breathing problems, pain in your chest, constant vomiting or a fever that keeps rising, go to an emergency room."

Emergency room in a pandemic?
Whatever for? They don't bother to mention that in a pandemic scenario that strikes you with constant vomiting, the entire emergency room is likely to be overrun with other people joining you in a hospital room vomit fest.

Nor do they mention some other important math: The very limited number of anti-viral medication courses available in the U.S. The last time I checked, that was roughly 50 million courses. If the U.S. population is roughly 300 million people, and there are 50 million courses of anti-viral meds available, how many Americans will have no access to those meds? (Ahem... 250 million people...)

Here's an even more interesting brain buster for you: If each vaccine shot generates $25 in revenue for drug companies, and the U.S. government orders the production of 160 million vaccines, how much money is Big Pharma making off the pandemic? That answer is roughly $4 billion in net revenues.

But even that doesn't count all the repeat business from the future victims who suffer neurological side effects from the vaccines and have to be institutionalized and subjected to high-dollar medical care for years on end. In all, a mass vaccination program could end up generating over ten billion dollars in revenues for drug companies.

These numbers just don't add up.
Now let's look at some serious statistics: If one million people have already been infected with swine flu, and 500 have died, that's a fatality rate of 1 out of 2000 people. Depending on which research you believe, vaccines might at most be credited with preventing 1% of flu deaths during any given flu season (and that's being very generous to the vaccine). So here's the question:

How many people have to be vaccinated with the new swine flu vaccine to save ONE life from a swine flu fatality?

(Notice, carefully, this question has never been asked in the mainstream media. That's because the answer isn't exactly what most people want to hear...)

This question is easy to answer, actually. If the vaccine were 100% effective (that is, they prevented every death that would have otherwise occurred), they could be credited with saving 1 life out of 2000, right? Because that's the normal death rate for this particular virus (these figures are widely quoted by AP, Reuters and the White House, by the way).

But no vaccine is 100% effective. As I mentioned above, seasonal flu vaccines might -- at a stretch -- be credited with preventing 1% of the deaths that might otherwise have occurred. With this 1% effectiveness factor calculated back into the formula for swine flu (assuming the same 1% effectiveness factor), it turns out that you would have to vaccinate 200,000 people to save ONE life from swine flu.

That puts a whole new perspective on the vaccine push, doesn't it? 200,000 vaccines costs taxpayers roughly $5,000,000, and it subjects 200,000 people to the potential side effects of these vaccines which have never been subjected to any long-term testing whatsoever.

It all begs the question: Is it really worth it?

Is it worth spending $5 million and exposing 200,000 people to potentially dangerous vaccine side effects in order to prevent ONE death from swine flu? And why isn't anybody breaking down the numbers on this issue and providing a serious cost / benefit analysis as I'm doing here?

Let's be generous to the vaccine...
Vaccine pushers might argue that the vaccine is far more than 1% effective at preventing swine flu deaths. In their wildest dreams, they might imagine a death reduction rate of, say, a wildly optimistic 10%. But even considering that, is it worth it? If the vaccine stops 10% of deaths that would have otherwise occurred, that still means you'd have to vaccinate 200,000 people to prevent the deaths of ten people.

I'm going to throw out a wild guess here and suggest that far more than 10 people will be killed by the vaccine itself, completely nullifying any net reduction in total deaths. Mathematically, you see, mass swine flu vaccinations make absolutely no sense given the very low rate of fatalities being observed right now.

Just do something!
Of course, public health policy is never based on sense. It's based on politics. And the politics demand that "they DO something!" That's what the public wants: Do something! It doesn't matter if doing something is worse than doing nothing... they just want to see some action.

It's the same story with breast cancer screenings (almost completely useless), prostate cancer screenings (now proven to be far more harmful than helpful) and of course ADHD screening tests (which are only designed to trick parents into drugging their kids). Much of western medicine, it turns out, is complete hokum. We would all be better off without the screenings and without the vaccinations altogether.

There's a highly credible book on this subject by authors Gerald E. Markle and Frances B. McCrea. It's called What if Medicine Disappeared? ( http://www.amazon.com/What-Medicine-Disappeared-Gerald-Markle/dp/0791473066/ )

This book argues quite persuasively (and with the citation of many convincing studies) that western medicine offers virtually no net gain in quality of life to the very people it claims to serve. Doctors, hospitals, vaccines and cancer clinics could all disappear tomorrow and most people would actually be far better off. Of course, no one disputes the value of having emergency rooms to handle acute trauma and accidents, but when it comes to preventive medicine and protecting quality of life, western medicine is a near-total failure.

When it comes to swine flu vaccines, any honest look at the math reveals that 200,000 people will have to be vaccinated with a largely untested experimental vaccine in order to prevent the death of one person (or ten people, if you really believe in vaccines). Remembering that more than one person in 200,000 will almost certainly be killed by the vaccine itself, it really makes you wonder: What's the point of all this?

The point, of course, is to sell vaccines. It's the one math problem that everybody understands: To make money, you have to sell a product, and there's no better way to sell vaccines to 160 million people than to scare them into begging for injections that are statistically opposed their own self interests. But I suppose anything is possible in a country where state governments can punitively tax the poor by convincing them to play the lottery. People who play the lottery are very likely to be the same people getting vaccine shots: It's like a lottery on your health, except that your odds of "winning" are far worse than your odds of winning something in a state lotto.

Let's see: You have a 1 in 1 chance of being injected with foreign viral matter, and yet you only have a 1 in 200,000 chance of your life being saved by it.

Allow me to put this into perspective: You have a 40 times greater chance of being struck by lightning at some point in your life than having your life saved by the swine flu vaccine. (Source: National Weather Service statistics.)

Mathematically speaking, getting a swine flu injection and hoping it will save your life is more foolish than buying a lotto ticket with your last dollar and hoping you'll scratch off a multi-million dollar winning ticket.

And buying a lotto ticket doesn't risk the health of your nervous system, by the way. You can always earn back a buck, but restoring your nervous system after it's attacked by a rogue vaccine can take years or decades. Some never recover. (Thousands died from the 1976 vaccines.)

Pop quiz: What's the actual cost of vaccinating 160 million Americans with an unproven, experimental swine flu vaccine?

Answer: $1.6 billion plus countless victims with strange neurological disorders, comas and sudden death -- all of which will be written off as "coincidence" by the vaccine pushers.

Free flu shots for the unemployed --
As this article was about to go to press, I couldn't help but notice a new announcement by CVS and Walgreens pharmacies. The powers that be are so desperate to get all Americans injected with this experimental vaccine that CVS and Walgreens are now offering free swine flu vaccine injections to anyone who doesn't have a job!

posted September 02, 2009 01:23 PM         

MSNBC Hard Sell Propaganda for H1N1 Soft Kill Vaccination
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
August 26, 2009

Dr. Nancy Snyderman, billed as chief medical editor at NBC News, says when the HHS bureaucrat Kathleen Sebelius speaks, we have to listen. Snyderman tells the talking heads on MSNBC that we should all line up and take our eugenics soft kill H1N1 vaccine.
[MSNBC talking heads try to stampede you into taking the deadly H1N1 vaccine.]
Sebelius is a member of the globalist Bilderberg Group. Bilderberg advocates modern eugenics and plans to eventually reduce the world’s population by 80%, as called for by the 1974 UN Assessment on Biodiversity.

The H1N1 virus is a big deal, Snyderman pontificates, and it will “cut a swath” through the population. Distrust of the government and big pharma, she warns, may be fatal. “I can’t tell you what to do,” she adds, “but I can tell you what you should do, and what you should do is get this vaccination.” There is the small matter that this virus outbreak is far less deadly than the normal seasonal flu, but that does not stop the editor from claiming that if you don’t get the vaccination you are playing Russian roulette.

Anchor Dylan Ratigan tells us to stop being lazy and frightened and get off our “derrieres” and get this vaccination.

All of this sounds suspiciously familiar. Back in 1976, the government hyped up fears of a swine flu pandemic after a few cases were found in soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey, and one of them died, most likely of physical overexertion rather than from the infection. This led to the launch of a mass vaccination of 40 million against a pandemic that never materialized. Thousands filed claims for injury. At least 25 died and 500 developed paralyzing Guillain-Barre syndrome (see Dr. Mae-Wan Ho and Prof. Joe Cummins, The vaccines are far more deadly than the swine flu).

Dr. Mayer Eisenstein, a Chicago physician and author of Don’t Vaccinate Before You Educate, told Alex Jones on August 25 that the number of people who died from the 1976 vaccination program was probably much higher than the government admits. He claims the number of injured was likely in the thousands.

No mention by NBC’s supposed medical editor of the well-documented risks of this experimental and untested vaccine. It is not simply the adjuvants, substances added in order to boost the immunogenicity of the vaccines, in particular the oil-based squalene, but also dangerous levels of mercury in the form of thimerosal, aluminum hydroxide, and heavy metals and other toxins in the vaccine.

Earlier this month, a German health expert warned of cancer viruses in the vaccine. Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg warned that the nutrient solution for the vaccine consists of cancerous cells. Wodrag also described people’s fear of the pandemic as an “orchestration” that will result in “great business for the pharmaceutical industry.” Or did the editor mention warnings issued by the British Health Protection Agency about an increased risk of developing Guillain-Barre syndrome after taking a pandemic vaccine.

Snyderman’s one-sided coverage and scare tactics border on criminal behavior, but then this is par for the course as the corporate media, in particular MSNBC, is a branch office of the CIA under Operation Mockingbird. The CIA was created by Wall Street and works in the service of the banksters and the global elite who have made no bones that they want to cull the herd and get world population down to around 500 million.

posted September 03, 2009 09:51 AM         

This is a good post, Zala, thank you!

Good food for thought.

Personally I do not believe anything, necessarially, the media has to say. We need to educate ourselves and make our own decisions.

My all-too-present Aquarian Hippi side remembers Leary, "Think for yourself, question authority."

As far as the vaccine goes, I am still leaning toward taking it, with the regular seasonal flu vaccine. And as I posted in another thread, I have loved ones, who I spend alot of time with that any strain of flu cound be very detrimental to, given their heart conditions. Taking into account the dirty population I work with in an already infirm environment, coming and going from Mexico, and dirty parts of Mexico, I am set up perfectly to catch a virus, H1N1 or otherwise. So, speaking clearly of odds, it may be better for me to risk it, just to keep my daughter and my love safe.

I repeat again, as I did in the other thread too, what ever happened to personal hygiene?

People who are sick should STAY HOME!!! People who are not sick should take care to not contract viruses with simple measures of personal hygiene, and stay out of crowds when the viruses become epi-pandemic.

Neither flu vaccine is for everybody! Healthy people should stay away from any type of flu vaccine. People must weigh their odds and make healthy, intelligent decisions.

I will repeat myself again, H1N1 nor the seasonal flu kills anybody! It is just the flu!!! It is the secondary infections that kill, when the flu gets you down.

Again, good post, good info!

I just hope people will take this to heart, not freak out and recieve the H1N1 vaccine without proper education.

blessings

posted September 26, 2009 12:02 PM         

Signs and Symptoms of Influenza

As most of you probably know, influenza is a contagious viral respiratory infection. Symptoms include:
· Fever
· Chills
· Runny nose
· Sore throat
· Cough
· Muscle aches
· Fatigue
· Decreased appetite
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Typically, the condition will improve after two to three days of bed rest, although some symptoms may persist for about a week.

What many people do NOT know, however, is that death caused directly by the flu virus is very rare. The vast majority of so-called “flu deaths” are in fact due to bacterial pneumonia – a potential complication of the flu if your immune system is too weak.

Other complications can include ear- or sinus infections, dehydration, and worsening of chronic health conditions.

The elderly and people with other pre existing medical conditions such as asthma, diabetes, or heart disease, are at higher risk of developing pneumonia after a bout of the flu.

The Flu Vaccine Does Not Prevent the Flu, nor Protect Against the Vast Majority of Flu-Related Deaths

The conventional treatment for bacterial pneumonia is an antibiotic, not a viral flu drug, so to think that taking a flu vaccine will prevent death from pneumonia doesn’t really make sense.

“But the vaccine will prevent the flu, which will prevent the possibility of developing pneumonia,” some might say.

That sounds good in theory, but the statistics simply do not support this assertion.

Because study after study, and master studies that compile the results from several studies to get a more objective result, keep coming to the same conclusion: Flu vaccines DO NOT WORK, and in many cases do more harm than good.

In fact, one shocking statistic brought to light in this video is that BEFORE the CDC advocated vaccinating children under the age of five, the number of children dying from the flu was very low, and on the decline.

Then, in 2003, just after children aged five and under started getting vaccinated, the number of flu deaths SKYROCKETED. The death toll was enormous compared to the previous year, when the flu vaccine was not administered en masse to that age group!

How anyone can consider a strategy that yields a higher death toll to be a “success” is a mystery to me.

The Problem with Flu Death Statistics

However, as frightening as much of this may sound, it’s important to keep things in perspective. According to the statistics shown in the video above, more Americans die from asthma, and even malnutrition each year, than the flu.

Unfortunately, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) grossly distort the facts about flu deaths, making the flu virus seem far more dangerous than is warranted. On the CDC’s main flu page, they state that about 36,000 people die from the flu in the United States each year.

But if you search a little harder, you can find the actual number of people who died from the flu in 2005 (this is the most recent data that’s available) was 1,806. The remainder was caused by pneumonia. In 2004, there were just 1,100 actual flu deaths.

The statistics the CDC gives are skewed partly because they classify those dying from pneumonia as dying from the flu, which is inaccurate.

How is the Flu Vaccine Made?

This is another area that many people do not understand or take into consideration before getting a seasonal flu shot.

In January or February of each year, health authorities travel to Asia to determine which strains of the flu are currently active. Based on their findings in Asia, they assume that the same strains of viruses will spread to the U.S. by fall.

At this point, U.S. vaccine manufacturers start making that season’s flu vaccine, which will contain the strains found in Asia. However, if the viral strains circulating in the U.S. that season are not identical to those in Asia, the vaccine you receive is a complete dud.

And to add insult to injury, you’ve just been injected with a laundry list of harmful ingredients.

What’s in the Seasonal Flu Vaccine?

The flu strains selected are cultivated in chick embryos for several weeks before being inactivated with formaldehyde, which is a known cancer-causing agent. Then they’re preserved with thimerosal, which is 49 percent mercury by weight.

Even many health care professionals are confused about this and are not aware that the preservative thimerosal is mercury. As a quick side note, one of my chief writers told me that, “the doctor’s office told me the vaccine does not contain mercury, just something called thimerosal.”

Please, don’t be fooled by this incredible ignorance. If you have carefully studied this issue there is a great possibility you may know more than your physician about this topic. Don’t back down if they tell you something you otherwise know to be true.

According to the CDC, the majority of flu vaccines contain thimerosal. Some contain as much as 25 mcg of mercury per dose. This means that it may contain more than 250 times the Environmental Protection Agency’s safety limit for mercury.

By now, most people are well aware that children and fetuses are most at risk of damage from this neurotoxin, as their brains are still developing. Yet the CDC still recommends that children over 6 months, and pregnant women, receive the flu vaccine each year.

In addition to mercury, flu vaccines also contain other toxic or hazardous ingredients like:
· Aluminum -- a neurotoxin that has been linked to Alzheimer’s disease
· Triton X-100 -- a detergent
· Phenol (carbolic acid)
· Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)
· Betapropiolactone - a disinfectant
· Nonoxynol - used to kill or stop growth of STDs
· Octoxinol 9 - a vaginal spermicide
· Sodium phosphate
·
How Safe is the Flu Vaccine?

Serious reactions to the flu vaccine include, but are not limited to:
· Life-threatening allergies to various ingredients
· Guillain-Barre Syndrome (a severe paralytic disease that is fatal in about 1 in 20 cases)
· Encephalitis (brain inflammation)
· Neurological disorders
· Thrombocytopenia (a serious blood disorder)
·
How Effective is the Flu Vaccine?

Remember that the potential effectiveness of a flu vaccine is dependent on the ASSUMPTION, made nearly a year in advance, that Asia’s viral strains will be the ones hitting the U.S. When they guess wrong, the vaccine is worthless from the very start.

But does that mean they withdraw the flu vaccine when they discover it contains the wrong strains? NO! They just keep giving it out anyway.

But even if they were to overcome that hurdle and actually select the correct strains, there’s still no evidence that it does anyone any good to get a flu vaccine.

Study after study comes back showing the same dismal results: the flu vaccines are not an effective method of prevention of the flu, and they do not save lives. As mentioned earlier, they may even be responsible for an increased death rate in some groups.

Sometimes determining efficacy is as easy as reading the information coming straight from the vaccine manufacturer.

How about this quote taken directly from the flu vaccine FLULAVAL’s package insert (which you likely never see when getting the flu shot) for the 2009-2010 formula:
"FLULAVAL is an influenza virus vaccine indicated for active immunization of adults 18 years of age and older against influenza disease caused by influenza virus subtypes A and type B contained in the vaccine. This indication is based on immune response elicited by FLULAVAL, and there have been no controlled trials demonstrating a decrease in influenza disease after vaccination with FLULAVAL.”

That’s right, NO controlled trials demonstrating ANY decrease in your risk of contracting the flu at all after vaccination! (It also states that each dose contains a total of 25 mcg of mercury.)

For those of you who are still unconvinced, know that there’s plenty of scientific evidence available to back up the recommendation to avoid flu vaccines. In addition to studies mentioned in the video, here are several other examples showing that flu vaccines do not work for any age group:
· A study published in the October 2008 issue of the Archives of Pediatric & Adolescent Medicine found that vaccinating young children against the flu had no impact on flu-related hospitalizations or doctor visits during two recent flu seasons.
The researchers concluded that "significant influenza vaccine effectiveness could not be demonstrated for any season, age, or setting" examined.
· A 2008 study published in the Lancet found that influenza vaccination was NOT associated with a reduced risk of pneumonia in older people.
This supports an earlier study, published in The New England Journal of Medicine.
· Research published in the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine also confirms that there has been no decrease in deaths from influenza and pneumonia in the elderly, despite the fact that vaccination coverage among the elderly has increased from 15 percent in 1980 to 65 percent now.
· In 2007, researchers with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
Diseases, and the National Institutes of Health published this conclusion in the Lancet Infectious Diseases: “We conclude that frailty selection bias and use of non-specific endpoints such as all-cause mortality,have led cohort studies to greatly exaggerate vaccine benefits.”
· A large-scale, systematic review of 51 studies, published in the Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews in 2006, found no evidence that the flu vaccine is any more effective than a placebo in children. The studies involved 260,000 children, age 6 to 23 months.
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Last but not least, I think it says a lot that 70 percent of doctors and nurses, and 62 percent of other health care workers do NOT get the yearly flu shot.

The reasons why they opted to not get vaccinated were:
· They didn't believe the vaccine would work
· They believed their immune systems were strong enough to withstand exposure to the flu
· They were concerned about side effects
·
Might Influenza be Little More Than a Symptom of Vitamin D Deficiency?

Vitamin D, “the sunshine vitamin,” may very well be one of the most beneficial vitamins there is for disease prevention. Unfortunately it’s also one of the vitamins that a vast majority of people across the world are deficient in due to lack of regular exposure to sunshine.

Published in the journal Epidemiology and Infection in 2006, the hypothesis presented by Dr. John Cannell and colleagues in the paper Epidemic Influenza and Vitamin D raises the possibility that influenza is a symptom of vitamin D deficiency.

The vitamin D formed when your skin is exposed to sunlight regulates the expression of more than 2,000 genes throughout your body, including ones that influence your immune system to attack and destroy bacteria and viruses. Hence, being overwhelmed by the “flu bug” could signal that your vitamin D levels are too low, allowing the flu virus to overtake your immune system.

At least five studies show an inverse association between lower respiratory tract infections and 25(OH)D levels. That is, the higher your vitamin D level, the lower your risk of contracting colds, flu, and other respiratory tract infections:

1. A 2007 study suggests higher vitamin D status enhances your immunity to microbial infections. They found that subjects with vitamin D deficiency had significantly more days of absence from work due to respiratory infection than did control subjects.
2. A 2009 study on vitamin D deficiency in newborns with acute lower respiratory infection (ALRI) confirmed a strong, positive correlation between newborns’ and mother’s vitamin D levels. Over 87 percent of all newborns and over 67 percent of all mothers had vitamin D levels lower than 20 ng/ml, which is a severe deficiency state.
Newborns with vitamin D deficiency appear to have an increased risk of developing ALRI, and since the child’s vitamin D level strongly correlates with its mother’s, the researchers recommend that all mothers’ optimize their vitamin D levels during pregnancy, especially in the winter months, to safeguard their baby’s health.
3. A similar Indian study published in 2004 also reported that vitamin D deficiency in infants significantly raised their odds ratio for having severe ALRI.
4. A 2009 analysis of the Third National Health andNutrition Examination Survey examined the association between vitamin D levelsand recent upper respiratory tract infection (URTI) in nearly 19,000 subjects over the age of 12.
Recent URTI was reported by:
o 17 percent of participants with vitamin D levels of 30ng/ml or higher
o 20 percent of participants with vitamin D levels between 10-30 ng/ml.
o 24 percent of participants with vitamin D levels below 10ng/ml
The positive correlation between lower vitamin D levels and increased risk of URTI was even stronger in individuals with asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
5. Another 2009 report in the journal Pediatric Research stated that infants and children appear more susceptible to viral rather than bacterial infections when deficient in vitamin D. And that, based on the available evidence showing a strong connection between vitamin D, infections, and immune function in children, vitamin D supplementation may be a valuable therapy in pediatric medicine.

How to Prevent the Flu without Getting a Flu Shot

For most people the flu shot does not make you healthy; it does just the opposite and weakens your immune system.

If you follow a healthy lifestyle, you will not have to worry about getting the flu. Take it from me -- I’ve never received a flu shot, and I haven’t missed a day of work due to illness in over 20 years. The key steps that I follow to stay flu-free, which I suggest you follow too, include:
· Get plenty of sunshine, safe tanning bed exposure or supplemental vitamin D3
· Eat right for your nutritional type, including avoiding sugar
· Exercise
· Get adequate sleep
· Address emotional stress
· Wash your hands regularly

posted September 26, 2009 12:12 PM         

I've been going to bed early to get extra sleep, drinking lots of RO water, and taking double my usual dose of probiotics (which help strengthen the immune system by working in the gut to clear out the bad bacteria), mega-dosing on vitamin C, and taking fish-oil, astragalus, 2000iu of vitamin D3, echinacea and garlic, and I'm eating onions and drinking ginger, licorice, kombucha and tulsi teas (not all together - separately).

posted September 28, 2009 01:45 AM         

As soon as swine flu vaccinations start next month, some people getting them will drop dead of heart attacks or strokes, some children will have seizures and some pregnant women will miscarry.

posted September 28, 2009 01:18 PM         

At least at my place of employment - i can open doors and windows but in a lot of government jobs and a lot of corp place - you can't open the windows or the doors for fresh air so once one person is sick - everyone else on the floor gets it one by one.

Funny thing is - the holidays are coming and you know what that means - lots of activity within crowds.

I was deathly ill in December 08 and because of that - I'm seriously considering taking the vaccine. I don't want to be that sick again and I certainly would NEVER wish it on anyone else. When I say deathly I mean I was sick during 90% of December and in the hospital for a little over a week - chills, inability to hold down anything even water, release of everything and even attempts of releasing anything that wasn't even in my body yet, blown up face and shut eyes as if Mike Tyson TKO'd me, weakness, sweating, blotches all over my skin, a continuous splitting headache, fever, equilibrium was off, etc. The hospital asked if I recently returned from a vacation overseas - no. The nurse was concerned she would have to be quaranteed. I was iv'd my entire stay in the hospital - btw, I was never so happy to be able to drink water and eat again once I was better. I tried to do the 2 day count from the day I was sick and lo and behold - I was in the mall. I even recall when I inhaled the 'disgusting' one - if that's possible because I remember it creep in through my nose - I started to sweat and that's when I turned to the people I was with and said - I need to go outside for some air.

posted September 28, 2009 01:39 PM         

i guess i am asking, is it possible you had the swine flu already? or another more common type? knowing could help you decide whether to risk the shot or not...

i have had two serious bouts with flu, once in 84 (the pneumonia one) and once in winter of 99. i will take my chances and trust my immune system thank you!

posted September 29, 2009 11:48 PM         

so far

as i left work tonight, folks were wearing masks in and out of the emergency room.

this is going to be a very, very bad year for flu, folks.

and i do not wonder if we, our collective energies are making it worse?

think well, be well...???

the cases of H1N1, aka swine flu in my hospital. are two young folks, (20-30 something i do not know the exact ages as i have been caring for open heart surgery patients in the other icu lately) and are individuals who had no, to little reported health care previously (as most of the folks i care for.)

recently, a 14 year old died of reported "swine flu." well, actually, when truth was told he died of sepsis, a narly blood infection. me thinks it just got out of hand, me thinks he was sick for a while before presenting to healthcare for help.

ah well....

me also thinks just another evolutionary phase of our societies.

(as i stuggle to type as my left tricept is becoming more and more sore from my seasonal flu shot earlier this eve....)

posted September 30, 2009 11:38 AM         

No, it is not mandatory, however, I found it quite strange (and imposing) with the form I signed last eve for my seasonal flu vaccine, that if one declines, one must state a reason for the declination!

AND, I was quite irked (busy as I was with dying patients yesterday) that the operator kept announcing "all employees report to classroom A for vaccination...."

Like drop everything and do this.

sigh...

Personally, I do not necessarially "believe" in the flu vacc, however as I have stated in posts previous I have 2 heart patients in my life that I must protect...so I have to do what I have to do.

Interesting comment on what they are doing in your area!

Me thinks this thing has gotten way out of hand and will escalate as the winter progresses.

posted September 30, 2009 01:21 PM         

it reminds me when i was a child and being sick meant i could miss school and stay at home!