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hippichick
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posted November 17, 2009 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Just curious if anybody here has taken the H1N1 vaccine...

I am pretty sure most here have/will not.

I did yesterday, have expressed my reasons for in other posts, but I am wondering if anybody else has??? (or know anybody who has?)

So, far, only mild reaction (if any at all, may very well be something else.)

AND I can still feel my feet....

just curious...

t~~~

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Randall
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posted November 18, 2009 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Have not. Will not. It's voodoo medicine. They try to "predict" how a virus will mutate next season and make a vaccine for that. Are you kidding me? If it won't prevent the regular strain of flu, I don't think it will do anything for this strain--if this strain even exists. Keep in mind that the Swine Flu was an admitted hoax of the Ford Administration in the 70s, so it makes sense that more press exposure today would create the illusion of an increase in regular flu deaths where none actually exists (reclassifying them instead as swine). Just my take on it. Carry on.

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hippichick
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posted November 19, 2009 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Randall

While walking to get the thing I kept re-considering, however, I have my daughter and my Love to protect as they are both heart patients and given the hell hole I work in I will do everything I can do to keep them safe. While walking, I considered that I have taken greater risks in life, some of which I should probably not still be around....I have been exposed to horrible situations where the black-cloked one was on my tail and I am still here.

A risk for a good cause. Had my daughter nor my bfriend been in my life I would have not done it.

And I do not believe everthing the media has to say anyway.

Me thinks "think for yourself, question authority" to quote one of the greatest "risk takers" of our time.

t~~~

ps I see medical lab reports of confirmed H1N1 flu cases and see the patients die quickly and horribly from pneumonia acquired after exposure to H1N1, usually young, pregnant women. IF the government is lying to us, I would not be hard pressed to not believe that, but IF our medical labs are lying to us then I guess we are all doomed.

I will repeat I do not recommed this vaccine to normal, healthy people, but for those of us who are exposed to it on a daily basis and for those of us who care enough about our loved ones to not bring it home I do say, consider it.

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katatonic
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posted November 19, 2009 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
hippi, my sister is also a nurse. she is not even considering this flu jab - does not take the regular one either, since she is prone to flare ups similar to fibromyalgia already. but her main reasons are that a) she is in the age group which has a large percentage of immune people (was around for the swine flu pre-1960) and has not had the flu since 1989 when she did have a bad case. acquired immunity does tend to be the best protection, while vaccinations seem to be dubious protection in many cases.

but most important in the risk factors is the fact that they have not really properly tested it. so i admire you for being willing to be a guinea pig but i would not take this jab for anything

too late now, i don't want to go to the REALLY negative place. i have ONE friend - in england - who had the jab the other day.

as david icke says, it is not going to be the kind of thing that is easily connected with the jab. imagine if they made a vaccine that dropped you in your tracks...the guys behind you in line would run in the other direction, wouldn't they?

i hope you will not only survive but thrive. keep us posted?

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hippichick
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posted November 19, 2009 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
kat

thanks for your support, and again I DO NOT recommend this for just anybody! (and your sis has made the correct decision for herself ) I as a fellow nurse support her in her decision!!!

But, I would go to the grave for Samantha and Bobby...each with their heart issues, H1N1 (or any flu for that matter) could send them to THEIR graves, and this I will do what I need to do to prevent, especially my kid, only 17.

I work in the ghetto of San Antonio, where a largely populated (Mexican) population are very ill anwyay, so just driving to work, stopping by a grocers on the way home increases my odds of contracting anything they might be carrying. Not to mention caring for them at bedside.

Tis my lot in life, I suppose.

Again, do not take any flu vacc or anything else unless absolutely necessary!

BTW, twas a short reaction period, now we shall see what the long-term consequences may be, and at 47 earth years...who knows?

I am here to live,and die when it is time for me and to take as much to "wherever" as I can.

blessings

t~~~ (guinea pig me )

o, and btw, me thinks a collective conciousness is at work here, lets ALL think positively!!! too much negativity in the world already!

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libraschoice7
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posted November 19, 2009 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message
When I went for my mammogram last month the front desk lady asked me twice if I was willing to get a swine flu shot..I simply told her I was afraid of needles and was fine without one Its good to hear that your ok, it seems kind of risky to me, but if you did it for other reasons such as your family, than I commend you for it.

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katatonic
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posted November 19, 2009 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
all the best. being a nurse, like doctors you probably have a very strong immune system...i hope you will have clear sailing with this!

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BlueRoamer
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posted November 24, 2009 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Me and many of my classmates got the shot or the live vaccine and we're fine.

Not only that but the people I know who got the swine flu said it was the worst illness they've ever had.

If you have the opportunity, get it.


Both David Icke and Jenny McCarthy are crackpots that spread fear and paranoia. Don't listen to the messenger that loads his message with fear, listen to the messenger that is objective and the message comes from love.


Why are we not taking the vaccine unless absolutely necessary? Do you have any evidence besides paranoid anecdotes that it is harmful? what is the basis of this fear?

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katatonic
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posted November 24, 2009 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
as mentioned above, BR, this vaccine has not been properly tested. the people i know who have had the bug said it was nothing to write home about...the regular flu jab affects a lot of people in nasty ways...one of the three people i know who have had the jab for this one got VERY sick. so obviously everyone is different. and as also said above, the virus is expected to mutate and then you're not covered anyway...lots of reasons not to take it but if you feel it's a good thing go for it.

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hippichick
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posted November 28, 2009 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
BR

I think you have to think for yourself, not going to quote Leary again, but do the research and think for yourself.

I am not one to believe media, necessarially, I am not one to believe anything on the internet, I AM one to combine all resources and make an educated decision on my own, a decision the will fulfill me and reaffirm to myself that I have done everything I need to do.

I still preach personal hygiene way above and beyond vaccines of any type. I still preach staying away from largely populated places, ie malls, etc during the flu seasons.

I am not so afraid of the flu vaccine itself (H1n1) or the seasonal as I am wary and concerned of what is in the foods we consume today, the air we breath, the media we watch.

"Think for yourself, question authority" just had to do it again!

t~~~

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PhoenixFire
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posted December 02, 2009 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message
I am a young and pregnant woman and decided not to take the jab. I am employed in Human Services, and have daily encounters with clients from different ethnic groups who live in poverty. I've decided to take my chances, as the vaccine hasn't been properly tested.

My Uncle contracted the virus a month ago, and he said it wasn't that bad. His Physician told him that their are more deaths from the regular flu than their are from the swine flu. He openly stated that the media has created a frenzy which is benefiting the pharmaceutical companies.

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hippichick
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posted December 03, 2009 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
I have been thinking about this crazed thing lately...

Sure, we can "assume" that this vaccine has not been tested properly, but then again, do we really know for sure that the things we pruchase, are exposed to have been tested?

I am not one to necessarially believe the government. They say things, media interperts and brodcasts to us, I and I do not believe either, necessaially. Once again, I will say, I take from it all what I can, research for myself and make my own decsions that are right for me.

How do we know, really know that something, our tootpaste for instance has been properly tested. They say it was many, many years ago, but we all know of commonly used things that come out from time to time that are, (shown to cause cancer) or (grow brain tumors...)

Does anybody really know???

My blessed grandparents are old, getting very old. My granny in the end throws of Alzheimers at 93 and my grandpa who loveingly takes care of her, 24/7 at 88 is no spring chicken either. They have lived on a remote lake property for years, consuming fresh fish from the lake, enjoying a multitide of fresh vegetables from their amazing garden, no factories for miles and miles, no pollution perse...and I always thought this is one of the reasons they have enjoyed many, many years of relative good health!

I have to reconsider, tho. The water they use for their garden is drawn from the lake, the fish they eat are caught in the lake. Now, my grandpa sits on the Board for the lake and they have had a problem for years of over growth of algea and (sea) lake weed, so much so people really can't enjoy the lake for swimming, water skiing, etc. What the Board found is that the runoff from the local farmer's (and they are many of them!) land drains directly into the lake, full of pesticides, fertilizer, nasty chemicals, etc. SO!!! their fish and their veggies are not so pure!

Just an example of what we do not know...

We can not escape our environments, we should not believe everything we are told!

But what we have to do is the best with what we have.

t~~~

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hippichick
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posted December 03, 2009 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Phoenix, I agree with you and I would not either, in your case...but I would, IF I were you be terrbily careful...

Again I do not support this vaccine for anybody unless there are other factors involved.

As far as testing goes, see my last post.

It is true that many, many people die from the seasonal flu yearly than H1N1, but the seasonal flu did not allegedly originate from some poor Mexican kid who touched a friggin pig!

I LOATHE the media and their ******** , however H1N1 is real.

The deaths I have seen from it are real, and they are young individuals.

My exposure to the nasty thing is real.

It is a super bug that mutates far faster than the seasonal virus and we have not seen the last of it yet.

Your uncle says it was no big deal, but I would have to assume that he is an otherwise healthy individual, whose inherant immune system can fight off the thing.

But to some it is a big deal, in my ghetto hospital, were the typical patient is not healthy, nor are their mothers, fathers, etc...there is such a genetic component to health and many, many of my patients are inbreed, to put it bluntly. So they do not have the resources of a healthy immune system from the get go.

The folks with H1N1 at my hospital, leave in a body bag....the flu did not kill them, but a very nasty secondary infection, pneumonia did...I have seen a couple leave alive, but still very, very ill and comprimised for ever.

blessings and luck with your pregnancy!


t~~~

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katatonic
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posted December 03, 2009 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
well the best place to catch an opportunistic infection is...the hospital!! and a community full of already unhealthy people WILL suffer from this bug where others will not...and that was a large part of the numbers in the original outbreak too, they all lived in a city where the air quality is way down the list always (among the worst in the world) so their lungs were compromised even if they were apparently healthy.


and seeing as how the mutation is supposedly rapid, no vaccine will likely ever catch up with it!

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alpha trion
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posted December 06, 2009 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alpha trion     Edit/Delete Message
I advise people against taking this vaccine. It contains mercury that is deadly to us. Here's some info about vaccines in general: http://www.whale.to/b/hoax1.html and http://www.whale.to/vaccines/flu.html

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