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Topic: I had to get a vaccine
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T Knowflake Posts: 3088 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2009 08:41 PM
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Dee Knowflake Posts: 887 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2009 10:09 PM
T,Im looking around for info on this.so far I cant seem to find anything on a natural detox. but from what i came accross is that they want people to have 3 of these hep b vaccines. did you just have one? I would go to the doctor to see what they can do for you. Another thought i had is it possible that you might have the flu and it coincided with getting the vaccine? It's possible. everyone i know has been sick since the fall. just another possibility.if you go to the doctor you can put your mind at ease, anyway heres a link. i hope you feel better soon http://www.hepb.org/hepb/vaccine_information.htm IP: Logged |
SunChild Moderator Posts: 1344 From: Melbourne. Victoria. Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2009 10:38 PM
Your Immune system has taken a hit. you are good for heb B, but in general your T fighter cells have gone crazy hence the tiredness and other symptoms, not to mention the heavy metal exposure. Immune (modulators) tonic herbs are essential, the most potent are Reishi and Chaga. Get mega doses in, not just a couple of times a day, but a couple of times an hour! To detox rapid, go for Chlorella and Spirulina, for superior detox go for zeolite clay. nothing works faster or better in case of heavy metal exposure!! For immune support go for High dose Ester C and camu camu berry powder. Do all this as a daily protocol and you should feel good. Make sure you stand barefoot on the ground to help send grounded signals to your immune system for higher functioning. Your immune systme is located in your neck, everything accumulates there. Gentle massage will help, and other energy work. Thats just off the top of my head, you will be fine T, but if you want to get out that toxic crap go forrr ittt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! edited to add in the coherent version lol
~ chaga and reishi tea, one to two cups every 1 to 3 hours until you finish the batch ~ 6-12 caps of spirulina and/or chlorella 3 times a day until you finish the batch and zeolite clay (comes with instructions) ~ recommended dosage of Ester C x2 and mega spoonfuls of camu camu berry powder in water once or twice a day. ~ 20 minutes at least of Earth contact, each successive minute is better than the last This protocol should be compulsary for everyone born on Earth in this epoch, do it if you have been vaccinated ever, or just want an immune system fortress. and drink spring water. what you drink becomes your blood. your inner river. clean river means clean organism.
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T Knowflake Posts: 3088 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2009 10:48 AM
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T Knowflake Posts: 3088 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2009 05:55 PM
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Dee Knowflake Posts: 887 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2009 07:23 PM
Maby some vaccines affect children and adults diferently. My daughter had the hep b vaccines and didnt have a reaction to that one. recently she needed a blood test as she has been on a lot of meds for the flu and her Liver enzymes were elevated, the also thought she might have hep. they tested her for it and she didnt so im glad she had this vaccine.As for adults when i gave birth to her the hospital wanted me tested for Rubella to see if i had immunities to it, i didnt and they told me i couldnt leave the hospital until i had the vaccine. so i got it and swear i had and still have reactions to that. getting chills and weakness out of nowhere. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 2295 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2009 08:38 PM
You could have fought it.------------------ "I have found a desire within myself that no experience in this world can satisfy; the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." -C.S. Lewis IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 3088 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2009 09:13 PM
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T Knowflake Posts: 3088 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2009 09:14 PM
Dee, that's not good. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 2295 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2009 09:32 PM
I'm sure your state has exemptions. What state is it?------------------ "I have found a desire within myself that no experience in this world can satisfy; the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." -C.S. Lewis IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 2295 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2009 09:37 PM
Dee, just because they say "you must have a vaccine," it doesn't mean it's required. I'd sue them.------------------ "I have found a desire within myself that no experience in this world can satisfy; the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." -C.S. Lewis IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 3088 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2009 09:49 PM
Just found some helpful info here: http://www.vaclib.org/exemption.htm Scroll down for Statement [letter] Of Religious Objection To Immunization http://www.rense.com/health/no.htm Note: If you are writing a letter of objection based on religious beliefs, it is often sufficient to simply state that vaccinations ( * "immunizations") are against your religion without itemizing. Reasons for objection are commonly that: Vaccines pollute the blood stream Vaccines are created from aborted fetal tissue (murder) Taking fetal tissue into the body is cannibalism It is unethical to to put children at risk by vaccinating Creating vaccines harm animals Taking animal tissue into the body is contrary to vegetarian principles May encourage the belief that one is protected from the results of immoral behavior. Vaccination is a superstition *Note 1: Vaccinations are NOT Immunizations. *Note 2: Non-vaccinated does not mean Non-Immunized. Unvaccinated children have high degrees of immunity.
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T Knowflake Posts: 3088 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2009 09:51 PM
OSHA & Hep B OSHA allows an exemption to recommendations for Hepatitis B vaccine for workers exposed to blood. http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=DIRECTIVES&p_id=2570#XIII 7. Hepatitis B Vaccination - Paragraph (f)(2). The Compliance Officer should determine whether or not all occupationally exposed employees have had the hepatitis B vaccination series made available to them after the training required by paragraph (g)(2)(vii)(I) and within 10 working days of their initial assignment. The term "made available" includes the healthcare professional's evaluation and arranging for the administration of the first dose of the hepatitis B vaccination series to begin within the 10 days. This includes all employees with occupational exposure, regardless of how often the exposure may occur. Part-time and temporary employees are included in this coverage. The vaccine does not have to be made available if the employer documents the exemption(s) set forth in paragraph (f)(2). It does not have to be administered if the employer can produce the signature of the employee on the mandatory declination form (See Appendix A of 29 CFR 1910.1030.) http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_id=10052&p_table=STANDARDS Regulations (Standards - 29 CFR) Hepatitis B Vaccine Declination (Mandatory) - 1910.1030 App [required language of declination form, NOTE OUR ADDITION OF THE WORDS "it is alleged that", which we have added for your protection to prevent the admission of non-existent guilt for refusing an "immunization".] "I understand that due to my occupational exposure to blood or other potentially infectious materials I may be at risk of acquiring hepatitis B virus (HBV) infection. I have been given the opportunity to be vaccinated with hepatitis B vaccine, at no charge to myself. However, I decline hepatitis B vaccination at this time. I understand that by declining this vaccine, it is alleged that I continue to be at risk of acquiring hepatitis B, a serious disease. If in the future I continue to have occupational exposure to blood or other potentially infectious materials and I want to be vaccinated with hepatitis B vaccine, I can receive the vaccination series at no charge to me."
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T Knowflake Posts: 3088 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2009 10:07 PM
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Dee Knowflake Posts: 887 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2009 10:31 PM
Randall,Now i know better. I dont think there is anything they could have done to stop me from leaving.This was awhile ago, i wasnt as aware of my rights back then. Also being i was in the hospital with a newborn i didnt want to rock the boat i just wanted to take her home without any problems IP: Logged |
hippichick Knowflake Posts: 526 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 17, 2009 09:56 AM
TAs far as I know it is always an option, some idiots like to strong-arm individuals into thinking it is required, but it is truely an invasion of your personal self. You have to sign your life away when you refuse, (as I have in the past with the Hep vaccine) cause the employer does not want to contribute to comp if you acquire Hepatitis while on the job. All about the $$ as always. You probably could get out of continuing the series. t IP: Logged |
Yin Knowflake Posts: 1949 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 17, 2009 10:17 AM
They wouldn't let me sign up for school here until I got the Hep B vaccine AGAIN. I am pretty sure I've had it done back home but they didn't believe my translated records. IP: Logged |
hippichick Knowflake Posts: 526 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 17, 2009 12:36 PM
this is SO stupid!(to force someone to take this vaccine) geezzzzzzz, really, how does one contract HEP of any strain??? CLOSE PERSONAL CONTACT, unless, ofcourse one is a healtcareworker, then our bad if we intentionally put ourselves in harm's way, and our tough luck if some flippy individual (with hep decided to attack us!) OR if one is a police officer or EMS or something like that, then, sure one is more prone to being exposed to the viurs, but again it is personal choice! I cannot, to most degrees, keep someone from couging in my personal space or sneezing on me, tis why I choose the flu vaccs that I did, but HEP? comeon....I am FAR less worried about contracting any form of HEP than I am the flu!!!
Friggin government, same prinicpal as making seat belts mandatory... Should be our choice!!! Maybe if the government would stop interfering in the personal choices of individuals then the government would not have to pay to keep certain individuals alive... IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 5724 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 17, 2009 01:13 PM
most states have exemption from vaccines for religious or "philosophical" reasons...some also have a provision for "scientific" objection...ie the good and bad are equally present therefore you can refuse the stuff.my sister is a nurse. she has to have regular tb tests but no one can force you to be vaccinated for ANYTHING, you just have to find the loophole. hep B is not so easy to contract, and even though you are working around possible blood, you would need an open wound to transmit it to yourself... and the hep B vaccine is suspect in the dissemination of the aids virus, by the way. i would think that would be enough "excuse" in itself to decline! "know your rights...all THREE of them!" - joe strummer IP: Logged |
SunChild Moderator Posts: 1344 From: Melbourne. Victoria. Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 29, 2009 01:23 AM
Just get a jar of honey I posted then titled "diviana nectar" ...that's all you'll need for now. about 10 bucks a jar. IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1984 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 05, 2010 04:46 PM
I not anti-hep shots. A lot of health workers are better off with them. I would hate to get Hepatitis.I'm not so keen on flu shots, which are a concoction of really nasty stuff. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 3088 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 06, 2010 12:07 PM
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SunChild Moderator Posts: 1344 From: Melbourne. Victoria. Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 07, 2010 06:21 AM
Your body probably did a great job on its own. And since you're a very a conscious person, naturally your defences are wide awake too. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 2295 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 11, 2010 07:54 PM
*bump*------------------ "I have found a desire within myself that no experience in this world can satisfy; the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." -C.S. Lewis IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 3088 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 11, 2010 09:02 PM
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