posted June 30, 2010 09:52 PM         

Could we ask if 'people' are cancer causing?

posted June 30, 2010 09:55 PM         

however the article sunshine posted says that "i told you broccoli will be banned" and the fact that they have established an eating disorder that obsesses to the point of illness over what it is consuming is PROOF that healthy eating is about to be banned too. i guess obama will be impeached after all!!

cpn printed a story on another thread of yours valus which actually cites steve mcqueen claiming how healthy he was feeling due to B17 therapy...shortly before he died. i am glad he felt better but i don't think he is a poster boy for laetrile...

as to the fda banning apricot seeds, go by some apricots and plant them. problem solved.

posted June 30, 2010 09:56 PM         

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Oh dear. I was talking about the article i posted, not the eating disorder one.

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I misunderstood you, T.
My apologies.

I didn't even see that.
And when Kat mentioned it,
I thought she was referring to
an article from the link I posted.

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T

Could we ask if 'people' are cancer causing?

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Another lovely thought from you,
but, no, koi, we can't.

Haven't you been listening
to what T just said?

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Please take responsibilty for your moods. Don't give your power up to other people so easily. Other people cannot put you in any kind of mood unless you allow them to

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posted June 30, 2010 10:05 PM         

People and moods are not the same thing though Valus.

I could see people as being cancer causing in some instances. Either for themselves or for others. Living around a negative or unhealthy person - "putting up with them" and bottling things up might cause someone cancer. But then, if they chose to leave the said person and take back their power things might change for them.

I'd say yes, people can be cancer causing.

posted June 30, 2010 10:12 PM         

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apparently the yoga article was not digested properly. wherein a longtime yogi admits to rebelling against the holier-than-thou practice of many of her brethren and goes back to conscious meat-eating and - wait for it - feels better than ever AND has exhibited a perfectly healthy colonic colony.

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Good for him. It's not about feeling good, though. Mainly, it's about doing good. I've read enough, seen enough, and felt enough in my heart, to know that eating meat is wrong. I've listened to Tolstoy, Gandhi, Buddha, and many others like them. You can keep your yogi and whatever makes your unspeakable crimes against animals tolerable for you.

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however the article sunshine posted says that "i told you broccoli will be banned" and the fact that they have established an eating disorder that obsesses to the point of illness over what it is consuming is PROOF that healthy eating is about to be banned too. i guess obama will be impeached after all!!

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I don't think she was that extreme, but I'm not going to pour over the article and her comments again now. You can take it up with SunChild. My feeling is that, while banning broccoli is unlikely, it's not unthinkable in this environment. I did think she was half-kidding, though, to make a point.

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cpn printed a story on another thread of yours valus which actually cites steve mcqueen claiming how healthy he was feeling due to B17 therapy...shortly before he died. i am glad he felt better but i don't think he is a poster boy for laetrile...

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Maybe you should read my response to iQ. I talk about the dangers of using laetrile by itself, and not as part of a holistic treatment, like the Gerson Therapy, which I've been talking about this whole time. I'm no poster-boy for laetrile either, kat.

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as to the fda banning apricot seeds, go by some apricots and plant them. problem solved.

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Bravo! You make a great devil's advocate. So, if you heard a German Jew complaining about the Third Reich, would you say, "Just move to another country. Problem solved." God, you're so clever sometimes.

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THERE IS NO ONE WAY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE

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Never said there was.
I've posted links to several clinics
that use various methods of treatment.
And I'm sure there are a lot more.

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and there are plenty of quacks for every real doctor doing alternative cancer therapies. so some of those stories are not really conspiracy tales.

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posted June 30, 2010 10:15 PM         

By your own definition, no,
people are not cancer causing.
You cause yourself cancer by choosing
to be around so-called toxic people
(and eat so-called toxic food).

At least stay consistent
with your own beliefs.

Jeez.

posted June 30, 2010 10:17 PM         

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You cause cancer by choosing
to be around so-called toxic people.

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And that is what I said above, Dippy.

Read again:

posted July 01, 2010 06:19 AM         

I have heard of this healthy eating disorder... but what I heard was that it's associated with people who think they can heal themselves by ingesting certain foods.... eg, If I eat blended beetroot with ginger, I WILL NOT die from such-and-such.

There is a delusional thought that blended beetroot with ginger is the secret to fending off the such-and-such disease.

posted July 06, 2010 02:20 AM         

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If I were borderline orthorexic;
I would be (subconsciously) driven to starve myself, and my conscious excuse would be that most foods are gross, and I would only want to ingest just the ones that I perceive to be pure/healthy. If no healthy food is available, I would either
1. lose faith in life and panic;
2. just starve (morbidly enjoy it);
3. just not go ahead and happily manifest a healthy food.

It's not about wanting to be healthy - although the patient might SAY it's what they want - but see, words and actions are different... And there are things that one hides from oneself too... A secret death wish may be involved here.

I suppose that you would be more likely to be orthorexic if the reasons for dieting in the first place is negative (I don't want to be ill so I won't eat this, I don't want to be fat, so I won't eat)... If your outlook on life is negative. This has nothing to do with spirituality.

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posted July 06, 2010 04:41 AM         

I didn't like the article. It was aggressive, rather than assertive. It was perpetuating the paranoia about authority figures controlling the masses coercively or even in a sinister fashion!

It isn't about the individual. It is about doing what is best for the majority of people. A lot of people, unfortunately, are unable to make wise decisions in their own lives, and it's the responsiblity of governments or whoever to protect them. Personally, in a harsh and sardonic way i think it defeats the whole concept of evolution and 'survival of the fittest' or should i say the smartest!

I'm not attacking anyone personally, btw!

No-ones holding a gun to your head telling you 'don't eat healthy or else'! Be responsible for your own health - plant a vegie patch in your backyard and eat as you please - you don't have to rely on anyone else but your own resourcefulness!

Forget 'them' focus 'you'
It's like worrying about the man in the sky (sorry, i realise practically everyone on this website is religious, but i am not...mother nature is much more fascinating!) the invisible force that's possibly stopping you from fulfulling your potential. Guess what, it's not, there's only you! Everyone is responsible for their own actions.

So long as you do no harm to others, do what you like

Stop worrying.
YOU ARE GOD.

posted July 06, 2010 05:35 AM         

I do like what you wrote.

However, everyone will have a different reaction to the article. I always have imagined it being written differently, parts of it irk me, but I think most people aren't going to become paranoid wrecks from it, it is only shining a light on the issues.

Pesticides, flouride, vaccines, food chemicals, assaults on our senses in a variety of ways, of course there is manipulation involved! It results in apathy and thinking we are alright- but we could reach new heights, individually and expanded, the cleanest living people I know is where I continue to aspire to be, they are living magic, and I love the vibrancy the streams from the cleanest possible lifestyle. unless one choose to experience it for real, for a long period of time, then they really have NO IDEA of the possibilities.

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Nae is that you? The scientist? I gather from your profile!!!!!

Knowing who you are helps me understand your POV properly.

posted July 06, 2010 06:12 AM         

*I would believe that statement, because I am one of them.

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posted July 06, 2010 06:51 PM         

Thank you for sharing.