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posted September 22, 2010 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
editing out personal info.

Thank you everyone.

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posted September 22, 2010 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
T....? are congratulations in order??

talking to the child in the womb is fantastic. i do believe my grandson knew his father's voice (as well as his mom's) before he was born. his dad used to lay his head on her womb and talk to him.

classical music is soothing to the soul of unborns as it is for the mom...of course some mothers can't stand it and that might cross the placenta to the child!! they do say that young children's brains are hugely benefitted by classical music which helps attune them to order and beauty etc; supposedly it makes math easier to understand when they get older!!!!

but most important is to do whatever it takes to keep your own self reasonably happy, it does pass through the placenta as well if you are content or stressed out.

and one of the things that hooked me on astrology was the way it points up the fact that we all come into this world with very definite combinations of energies, and personalities...which was obvious to me from before mine was born, but when i looked in those eyes in the first minutes i knew this was no "blank slate" as some professionals, and other parents even(like my mother~ who didn't hold me till i was 24 hrs old), will declare.

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posted September 22, 2010 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Two weeks before your due date take a homeopathic substance Caullophyllum 30 once a day.
It will give you a speedy birth.
My first one 20 mins. Second one 10!!!
When they say you will be another 8 hours just deduct 7 hours 40 mins!!
It makes the contractions very strong. Only downside is there is no downside to them.
No peaks and troughs, just peaks!!!

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posted September 23, 2010 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Elena Tonetti-Vladimirova, whatever she has to say is pure magical wisdom...

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posted September 23, 2010 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Do not let your baby have free access to water in a bottle.
I don't know what doctors tell parents now, but 29 years ago they felt it was fine to let a baby drink as much water as they wanted instead of nomming on a pacifier.
Well too much water can cause water intoxication seizures or even death.
My son almost died.
The doctors were mystified as to his convulsions he was having for several months,
and passing out spells.
Seems the damn doctors were horribly wrong.....
babies will NOT stop drinking when they have had enough water.
Makes me wonder how many cases of S.I.D.S.
were caused by water intoxication.

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posted September 23, 2010 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Do not give a baby or child under 4 years old any honey. Some cannot handle the natural Botulism spores in honey.

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posted September 23, 2010 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
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posted September 23, 2010 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
Bunnies, wow that's quick!! Thank you so much for the information!! I have looked into it a bit and will definately be getting some. Youre the best, thanks for sharing!!

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posted September 23, 2010 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
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posted September 23, 2010 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WinkAway     Edit/Delete Message
aww congrats T!!

I remember the being tired part.
I worked at a place where the bathrooms had a back room in them with showers and benches. I used to take my breaks and go lock the back room, turn out the lights and lay down on the benches. Usually it takes a lot for me to sleep anywhere other than my bed, but during that time I had no problems lol. Your little guy is needing your energy right now for all the growing he's doing. It gets better as you get farther along.

I absolutely love being pregnant! Cherish every moment

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posted September 23, 2010 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
learn now, learn early to take care of yourself, first and formost!

and that applies to mothers with children of all ages, we can not care for unless cared for and we can rely on nobody else to care for us, only we can!

blessings and congrats!

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posted September 23, 2010 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
you sound like me, T, i developed "sleeping sickness" almost from day one, my only real symptom for most of the duration! and i was pretty sure even before my period was late, though the first test came back negative because it was so early! also put on about 8 pound in the first week or so...which same 8 pounds stayed with me till about a year after delivery (though unknown to me i was pregnant again 6 mos after my daughter was born) when a bout of heavy pneumonia took it off!

stay active, i was carless and walked and bussed everywhere and my doctors were amazed at my agility at 9 mos...this did not make for an easy delivery but if i had been as into astrology then as now i would probably have realized my babe was not the "easy" type.

i basically feel that if you start treating the baby as if they were already here, singing, talking to it, etc, you will establish a relationship to continue when it gets here...and anything that is good for YOUR spirit will probably crossover to them.

then again, even in the womb they seem to have personalities which you may have to accommodate...everyone is different though.

congratulations by the way

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posted September 23, 2010 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
T, I'm very happy for you

Lexx, these days hospitals, doctors & midwives say NEVER give a baby water, not even a drop (unless in rare circumstances) Breast milk is enough.

Bunnies, is that blue cohosh?

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posted September 23, 2010 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
http://riverbender.com/rawspirit/elena.wav

The interviewers are Matt & Angela from raw world, but listen to everything Elena has to say. Elena inspired me to go drug free in birthing Tahlea and as a result I had the most amazing experience I'll never forget, true soul growth.

ETA,T, I worried about all sorts of things the whole way through, it's kind of hard not to, the only way to cope is to fill up on as much positive information as you can, inspiring, educational, ect...(as you know) it fills you with excitement... and I'll also warn you, being tired or not getting enough sleep can make odd thoughts creep in- I've put two and two together, the more sleep I get the easier it is to not worry and feel the deep love from within. If ever your mind is messing with you- you can be sure it is sleep!

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posted September 24, 2010 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
I think it's actually a derivative of squaw root (which may be blue cohosh for all I know)It sounds native American.
The good thing is it can do no harm because it is homeopathic potency.
It just makes the uterine contractions strong.
I just had one BIG long contraction with the second one that lasted 5 mins and then I just pushed her out!
Which is a good job because bunnies does not do pain and an 8 hr labour would find her leaving the hospital and categorically refusing to have anything more to do with the whole process

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posted September 24, 2010 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Oh and T
Don't worry. You can read up all you want and work yourself into a frazzle but Nature will ignore you and carry on doing what she has done quite remarkably efficiently for millenia.
I know that is easier said than done, when every twinge and twitch will have you in a flat panic because you are experiencing it for the first time, but rest assured after the first trimester nothing short of two ton of nitro glycerine will shift them until they are ready.....ask SunChild!

It kind of runs like this

1st 14 weeks.
Abject terror. Feeling sick (or sometimes not)feeling as if you are filling up with fluid anywhere you can fill up with fluid and being very tired...a lot.
Sometimes copious weeping and the realisation that you are the only person in the history of the world who will not be able to do this, that you will be a terrible mother and why did you not just get a puppy instead.

2nd trimester 14th week to 28 weeks.

I am indestructible. I think I may take up running or go to the gym.I can't believe I ever felt sick.
If it's a girl your brain will turn to mush. You will cry at adverts on the tv. If you do watch tv, your partner will have to explain the plot of every programme however straightforward because you simply won't be able to grasp it.
The world will take on a rosy hue and in between sentimental weeping over adverts and puppies you will sit in a state of confusion
"What's happening? Would someone explain what's happening?

If it's a boy you will have already threatened to chin your boss because he was unkind to you. How dare he ask how I am. What's he implying?
The puppy will have been flung out the house
"Cos it's a friggin' nuisance"
Your husbands friends will quake when they see you coming and he himself will not dare explain anything to you
"What are you implying? That I'm frikkin' stupid??? Eh? Eh?

The world will be out to harm you and your unborn baby. You will have called your doctor a moron at least once and asked him did he get his medical training from the frikkin' Easter Islands (You will swear a lot)

3rd trimester 28 wks to D Day

I'm a pig. I wish it was out. My chin is resting on my boobs which are resting on my enormous stomach which is pressing on my ridiculously small bladder (I've only just been!)
A bowel movement? Nope. Not the faintest idea what you are talking about. But I can pee for the Olympics.

Night before birth.
. I've changed my mind.I will be the worlds worst mother. Why didn't we get a puppy instead.

And then.....well words are insufficient to describe what you will feel when you hold your baby.
Nature will have turned a switch on in your brain and the old you will just blissfully fall away.Enjoy!!!

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posted September 24, 2010 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
bunnies that was brilliant...but i do just want to say that while that may be typical i know plenty who have had completely different stories...it will be what it will...

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posted September 24, 2010 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Couldn't agree more

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posted September 24, 2010 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting e-mail I received today.
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Potty-Training Mama

Bulk Herb Store Newsletter - Issue 58

Have you ever smelled something so stinky that your eyes tear up and your nostrils flare? You can feel your throat contracting and then the dry heaving begins. That's me changing a dirty diaper. Granted, yellow newborn diapers are not that bad, but they quickly become brown, nutty, and swollen with raisins. Gag!!!! Three weeks ago I had a perfect baby girl named Penelope Jane Easling. Even though she's such a sweet baby, I knew that I was still going to be changing brown, nutty diapers unless I did something quick!

Potty Training a new born is more like the training of a mother. Everything we do with them, we train them. We can train them to poop in a diaper. Why not train them to poop in the pot? I started potty training two days after Penelope Jane was born. At first she never held it, and when she need to go, she went. I brought her to the potty and made the sound "psh!", and said it over and over. If she had already started going before I could get her there, I still made the sound, "psh, psh, psh, psh, psh psh!" I put her feet on the edge of the potty and said "Good GIRL!", while she's going. It's like a language to her. She's beginning to learn that those sounds mean "go potty." The more we bring her to the potty and make the sounds, the more she understands what she needs to do. Before she ever wakes up, she makes a fussy grunt; that is my queue to bring her to the potty. I take her diaper off, hold her in position, make the sounds, and she does her thing.

Now she doesn't like going in her diaper because she is potty trained. Penelope Jane is a happy baby, but if she does her fussy grunt or wiggles like a worm and I don't take her potty, she cries until I do. As is consistent with potty training, there are accidents. I would rather have those yellow accidents now than have to change brown nutty diapers for two years. Gag!!!!!!

My wonderful husband James deserves credit for her potty training, too. Without him, I would not have been able to do it because he also takes her potty at night because I need my sleep.



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posted September 24, 2010 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
bunnies
I think maybe that is how it is normally?
I was not it seems.
I did not know I was pregnant for sure until
9 1/2 weeks.
Preg tests were not very reliable as they are now.
I had light periods up to 14 weeks too, and was losing like a pound a week.
The only clue I had was nasty morning sickness beginning at 5 weeks and the urge to pee often.
I was very active, being a power lifter, and continued to do extremely heavy power lifting, and walking 4 miles every other day with 12 pound weights on each ankle and a 25 pound back pack, until about 30 weeks or so.
I did stop doing my intense power ab work though,(hanging ab crunches whilst clutching to chest a 90 pound weight for resistance)
the moment I found out I was carrying my son.
I was never moody, nor had weird food cravings.
I lost 27 pounds in the first 6 months, then gained 12.
I was not tired until the last weeks and up until then had an abundance of energy and happiness!
I loved being pregnant and feeling him move and kick!
It was utterly magical!
I talked to him and sang to him, and read him stories and played him music. Later that same music became his favorites and he could
totally impersonate the singers so well one could not tell his voice from the artists!
So all in all being pregnant with my only child, was definitely one of the most wonderful things I have ever experienced!
Maybe it was my reward or recompense for the physical and emotional agony of losing over 12 pregnancies betwixt 8 weeks and 5 months
before my son was conceived.
My son born in 1981, was the result of my 13th. pregnancy.
Tried many times since, and lost another 13+ pregnancies (Some were twins) between 1982 and 2006.

PS.I don't really know why I am posting about pregnancy and all.
Until now, for many decades, I would break down and cry even seeing a picture of a mother and child or seeing pregnant ladies.
It just hurt too damn much to think of my lost ones.
Maybe I am finally letting all that sorrow go?
Why just recently though, not sure.

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posted September 24, 2010 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Breast feed if you can!
And another tip;
do not baby talk to your baby if you want them to have a good vocabulary early on.
By the time my son was 4 he had the vocabulary of about a 12 year old.
At 3, his cousin, also age 3, informed him that boys have
ding dongs or pee pees and girls have tinkles.
My son told him that boys have a penis, and girls do not have tinkles.
He then asked me, "what do girls have?", but that is another story.

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posted September 24, 2010 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message
Agree with LEXX about the water.

What most people don't understand, unfortunately it includes mothers and doctors, that for the first 6 months of their lives, babies DO NOT NEED ANYTHING EXCEPT BREASTMILK.
If a baby gets thirsty, you can wet their lips with water or give them a teaspoon of water to drink. Yes, that's right. It's a teaspoon, not more.
The advice on Honey is correct as well because babies don't have strong enough immune systems.
Oh, one handy tip about diarrhea. Curd, but it shouldn't be too sour and even then, should never be given more than a couple of teaspoons at a time. And obviously, not before 6 months of age.

:edit: the teaspoon of water is in rare circumstances like fever which can cause loss of water.

I'm a med student, not a mother though, so any other advice would be welcome.

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posted September 24, 2010 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
Congratulations, T.

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posted September 26, 2010 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
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