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posted April 09, 2013 01:25 PM            

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Dr. Peter Breggin,
3 minute testimony on psychiatric meds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPx95sk7k1U

(See: breggin.com for more info)

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posted April 09, 2013 05:46 PM            

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posted April 11, 2013 05:45 PM            

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Well I take meds and they have helped me remain stable for the first time in my adult life. A couple I tried didn't agree with me though. I do think that some people are short on serotonin in their bodies.

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posted April 11, 2013 07:15 PM            

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Why do you think people take cocaine and heroin?

"Cocaine gave me confidence for the first time in my life."

Try arguing with that guy.

"Heroin allowed me to relax for the first time in my life."

Try telling that guy he's in denial.

Drugs can definitely appear to help, as far as masking symptoms.

Dr. Breggin calls it "spell-binding".

He's presented extensive evidence of how it works.

The ill-effects are not always readily apparent,
but that doesn't mean they are not there.

Tell me, have you even tried a plant-based diet?

Chamomile tea?... Walking?

All of the above?

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posted April 12, 2013 06:29 PM            

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Yes, I have, all of those.
I was a strict vegan once for roughly a year and a half and I was always getting depressed. During that same time frame I used to walk some dogs regulary that I helped care for and to college, I tried St Johns Wort....etc etc.

Does drinking water to fulfil thirst or does eating food to fulfil hunger mask the symptoms of these needs?

The way I see it, nature isn't perfect. We have the power/ consciousness to help fill in the cracks, and to find ways to heal the imperfecions in nature.

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posted April 13, 2013 12:11 AM            

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I'm not talking about being vegan, I'm talking about eating whole foods; that means unrefined, minimally processed foods; avoiding additives, preservatives, pesticides, etc.

I haven't entirely made up my mind on the meat/cholesterol debate. I think maybe some animal protein may be beneficial. I would, however, recommend eggs from organic, pasture-raised chickens, before I'd recommend flesh.

Nor do I argue that food makes all the difference. Moderate exercise and spiritual practice are also needed. Ultimately, dissatisfaction, or discontent, is something we don't necessarily eradicate, so much as make our peace with, as an aspect of existence. We may never be "happy" in this life, but we can at least do our best not to support multi-billion dollar industries, like Big Pharma, that are preying on children and manipulating our entire medical system. Even if it worked (which I do not believe),"filling in the cracks" with drugs produced by an unethical corporate monster is not an option for me.

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posted April 13, 2013 04:10 AM            

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One thing I agree with you on is that big Pharma shouldnt be praying on children. There was a radio interview I listened to once on youtube, where some specialist was asked to come and assess a child and they said that there was nothing wring with the child, however this child was "made to move" and once they were given the chance to channel their energies into their passion- dancing- things got better. I'm against society trying to put children in boxes or say that there is a way they are "supposed" to be or behave.

Fortunately I don't think we are as into doing this in the UK as tends to happen in the US (well, at least not putting lots of kids on Ritalin).

Occasionally labels can be helpful, as they can explain why someone is the way they are, or help others to be more understanding toward them, when they know that there is a medical reason for the behaviour.

Its not so bad, as long as people don't use such information to think any less of anyone else, as we are all different with different strengths and talents etc.

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posted April 14, 2013 04:49 AM            

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Psychiatry Almost Drove Me Crazy
http://www.awakeninthedream.com/wordpress/psychiatry-almost-drove-me-crazy-2/

related:
http://www.awakeninthedream.com/wordpress/shamanic-transference/
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000571.html

list of articles:
http://www.awakeninthedream.com/wordpress/articles/

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posted April 14, 2013 11:53 AM            

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Great links!
I'm definitely going to do some exploring.

Soul Retrieval and Hypnotic Regression
are two options which work miracles for some.

This site is, regrettably,
an extension of the Church of Scientology,
but they are the only large-scale operation,
that I know of, doing work like this:
http://www.cchrint.org/
http://www.cchrint.org/2012/07/20/the-aurora-colorado-tragedy-another-senseless-shooting-another-psychotropic-drug/

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posted April 14, 2013 03:35 PM            

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/single-magic-mushroom-can-change- personality-2363324.html

"The time is now coming in this new aquarian age, when it won't be doctors, it will be teachers. And that's what we're here for; to be teachers."
~ Dr. John Christopher

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posted April 14, 2013 07:24 PM            

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Great links, thanks.

Love the quote too.

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posted April 14, 2013 09:26 PM            

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My serotonin got messed up after doing crazy shtuff... so I take meds now for anxiety. They help me so much! But... I would rather not take them.
I tried natural ways of relieving my anxiety but it wasn't as helpful as the meds. I tried different teas, walking, vitamins, meditating. Nope. Didn't work...
I would especially get mini panic attacks when it was time for bed or in the middle of the night. I wasn't gonna go for a walk then.. I would drink valerian tea and it helped a bit but not really... *sigh*
I do think Psychiatry could be/kind of is wack... My Psychiatrist is a NUT JOB!
Whenever I try to play mind games or dig into him and get him to re-think things he totally twists it around back at me. He's so annoying. He always kicks me out in such a hurry too. Lol. That's what he's trained to do though... make me believe that I'm the crazy one

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posted April 15, 2013 04:27 AM            

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Well fortunately it is quite difficult to see a psychiatrist in the UK. It usually takes a couple of months or so of being on a waiting list and usually by that time you find alternative ways to work through whatever it was! We use mostly counsellors here (which we also have to go on a long waiting list for).

Counselling can sometimes be beneficial, but it really depends on the situation and what kind of rapport you manage to get with one; they are only human after all with different personalities. Hehe. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/004649.html

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posted April 15, 2013 04:28 AM            

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