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Topic: Do You Believe In Magic?
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Yin Moderator Posts: 3275 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 20, 2013 01:56 PM
Do You Believe in Magic? Topol, Offit on Alternative MedicineInterview + transcript Dr. Offit wrote a book called: Do You Believe in Magic?: The Sense and Nonsense of Alternative Medicine
Book Description from amazon.com In Do You Believe in Magic?, medical expert Paul A. Offit, M.D., offers a scathing exposé of the alternative medicine industry, revealing how even though some popular therapies are remarkably helpful due to the placebo response, many of them are ineffective, expensive, and even deadly. Dr. Offit reveals how alternative medicine—an unregulated industry under no legal obligation to prove its claims or admit its risks—can actually be harmful to our health. Using dramatic real-life stories, Offit separates the sense from the nonsense, showing why any therapy—alternative or traditional—should be scrutinized. He also shows how some nontraditional methods can do a great deal of good, in some cases exceeding therapies offered by conventional practitioners. An outspoken advocate for science-based health advocacy who is not afraid to take on media celebrities who promote alternative practices, Dr. Offit advises, “There’s no such thing as alternative medicine. There’s only medicine that works and medicine that doesn’t.”
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 36318 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 20, 2013 02:10 PM
I thought vaccinations were based on magic.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 36318 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 25, 2013 11:05 AM
I can't completely agree with this, although I can see it would be so with some unproven therapies.IP: Logged |
PlutoSurvivor Knowflake Posts: 186 From: USA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted January 03, 2014 10:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: I thought vaccinations were based on magic.
Vaccinations pump outrageous amounts of toxic mercury into our bodies, live virusus, plus now microchips. There is no magic in that. You know everyone has the right to refuse vaccines. They are not required by law to attend school. You just need a doctor's excuse presented to attend school. IP: Logged |
PlutoSurvivor Knowflake Posts: 186 From: USA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted January 03, 2014 10:35 AM
Every treatment has a protocol for its use. If you take responsibility for your own total health (total=whole=holistic) and follow proper protocol for whichever means you consider trying you will be investing in your health, not your sickness. Of course I believe in magic. There is magic in elliminatic ignorance. Do you realize that, at least in USA, we are all brainwashed into spending thousands of dollars on health insurance that can't be "cashed in" unless we are sick? That's " sick" insurance, not health insurance. If each person took responsibility for their own health instead of letting government and pharmaceutical-run medical school graduates dictate our "sickness" we would all be very fit. How threatening would that be - no debilitated population easy to control? Sorry... Got carried away. There is much good and value in allopathic treatments when we allow our bodies to deteriorate at the physical level. So called " alternative" treatments are really traditional and they work. Who cares if placebo really works if it keeps you whole and in balance. How can you justify expense of these treatments? Invest in your health, not your " sick" insurance. It's all a matter of priority really. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 36318 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2014 02:25 PM
Vaccines are not required at any level in any circumstance (not even for international travel or military service).IP: Logged |
Yin Moderator Posts: 3275 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2014 07:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Vaccines are not required at any level in any circumstance (not even for international travel or military service).
That is inaccurate. I had to get vaccinated twice (since the school here didn't accept my medical records from before) in order to be able to attend the school at all. May just be my state. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 36318 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2014 08:00 PM
Which state?IP: Logged |
Yin Moderator Posts: 3275 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2014 08:27 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 36318 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 04, 2014 01:29 PM
You can claim a religious objection in MA. That would have done it. There is probably a box to check on the bottom of the immunization sheet. Check that box, and they will shut up. IP: Logged |
Yin Moderator Posts: 3275 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 04, 2014 02:04 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 36318 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 05, 2014 01:54 PM
People here who are fully immunized just check that box when they start college to avoid the hassle of getting their records. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 36318 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 06, 2014 02:02 PM
People often say you "must" do something, but they "must" defer to the law.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 36318 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 07, 2014 02:18 PM
If you travel and want to skip vaccinations, let me know, and I will send you the law. Americans are specifically exempted from all vaccines for international travel.IP: Logged |
Yin Moderator Posts: 3275 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 07, 2014 02:27 PM
Thank you, that's very kind of you. I think that if I'm going to a place with a lot of disease, I would want extra vaccinations. Like malaria etc.I'm not against vaccines, just against overzealous doctors, with no time for their patients. Luckily, last few docs I've dealt with have been very holistically oriented. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 36318 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 10, 2014 11:36 AM
You're welcome.IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 1871 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted January 11, 2014 12:01 AM
Eh...I'll stick with the more natural stuff, thanks. We felt inclined to all get flu vaccinations last week, due to the increase in "swine flu" this year, but that was my first time ever getting a flu shot. Likewise, we've never had our son vaccinated for the flu until this year.I'm not huge on taking vitamins (although, due to the amount of coffee that I drink, I do take cellular active vitamin B, zinc, and calcium/magnesium supplements. I also take a handful of Chinese herbs to help balance my hormones so that I'm not a raging banshee every month, and some Ayurvedic herbs for energy throughout the day, or sleep at night. I've noticed a huge difference in the quality of brand, but the good brands do work for me. As far as vaccinations go, we only have our son vaccinated for diseases that we consider serious and life-threatening. I make sure that thimerosal is not used in any of his vaccinations, or mine for that matter. But it would be interesting to read the book. I still think that eating a lot of organic fruits, greens, and herbs would be more helpful than taking vitamin supplements. My son eats mostly organic, cruelty free foods, although we aren't always as diligent about it as I would like. But about 75% of his food intake is healthy. Not entirely sure about the vitamin supplements, though. We don't give him any of those. Also, living in the Pacific Northwest tends to give most people here a bit of a vitamin D deficiency, I would think. I don't take it as a supplement, but I probably should. The sun can be a foreign object in these parts. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 36318 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 12, 2014 02:03 PM
With the flu vaccine, it doesn't even work for this season. We supposedly try to predict how the virus will mutate next season. If that sounds imposssible to you, well, it is. IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 1871 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted January 12, 2014 05:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: With the flu vaccine, it doesn't even work for this season. We supposedly try to predict how the virus will mutate next season. If that sounds imposssible to you, well, it is.
I've read that the flu vaccine this year actually does cover the strain of H1N1 that has been circulating, but I agree that it would be difficult to predict that accurately every year. We did our research before we got any vaccinations. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 36318 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 13, 2014 02:01 PM
Viruses are so tiny that we are lucky to even identify them.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 36318 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 14, 2014 01:55 PM
Much less predict their RANDOM mutations!IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 36318 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 16, 2014 12:34 PM
Don't fall for strongarm tactics. They have to obey the law. IP: Logged |