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posted October 10, 2014 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If everything goes as planned in her life, 29-year-old Brittany Maynard's death will occur on Saturday Nov. 1 — in her bed, on an upper floor of her Portland, Oregon home, with cherished music filling the room.

Lately, though, nothing in Maynard’s life has flowed like she once dreamed — no children with her newlywed husband, no more time. She has brain cancer, grade 4 glioblastoma. In April, a doctor told her she had six months to live.

Now, Maynard has embarked on a rare farewell bathed in politics and poignancy — all painstakingly organized and openly shared, she said, in a bid to help to change laws for dying Americans who feel they are forced to endure the full, gruesome descent of a terminal illness.

Maynard made three choices that are elevating her final days to viral immortality. She moved with her husband, Dan, from San Francisco to Oregon — one of five states where doctors can legally prescribe life-ending drugs to the dying. She obtained the two bottles of lethal pills and selected the precise moment, place, guests and soundtrack for her last breaths. And she posted the reasons for all this in a video that, as of Thursday night, had received more than 5 million views.

"I don't want to die. But I am dying. Death with dignity is the phrase I'm comfortable using. I am choosing to go in a way that is with less suffering and less pain," Maynard told NBC News Thursday night, speaking from the Columbia River Gorge, 30 minutes east of Portland.

She was on a "get-away" with her husband. She had endured an awful night and morning — due to the tumor, her brain is swelling, pressing against her skull, causing excruciating pain and robbing her of sleep. Medications are not working as well lately to ease the swelling or mask the pain, she said.

"When people use the word suicide, it’s just highly inflammatory and just incorrect because I am already dying from cancer. And people who commit suicide are typically people who want to die, and are killing themselves. I’m not killing myself. Cancer is killing me."

She knows her story has fueled a global dialogue about her choice and about the issue. She knows some people do not support her selected path. She is using her precious, remaining days to keep that conversation alive.

"What does seem necessary is to get people educated about this topic, to have discussions be based on facts, not fear, and really have it be a healthcare choice, which is what makes it a freedom," Maynard said.

"Not everybody has to agree that it’s the right thing — because they don’t have to do it. It’s an option. And it’s an option that, for me, has provided a lot of relief because the way that my brain cancer would take me organically is very terrible. It's a horrible way to die. The thought that I can spare myself the physical and emotional, lengthy pain of that, as well as my family, is a huge relief."

She chose Nov. 1 because it falls just after her husband's birthday - a moment she hopes to enjoy - and because it gives her family and closest friends a date for which they can prepare.

"That’s what I’m planning for, unless a cure is miraculously discovered in the next couple of weeks, in which case I will certainly avail myself to that," Maynard said. "The beauty of death with dignity, as a patient healthcare choice, is the patient maintains autonomy and can always change their mind.

"So if I have a really terrible grand mal seizure next week and my symptoms get much worse, I may choose to move up my date. Or, if I’m feeling really wonderful on November 1, and I have reason to continue to live longer, I will. But for me there is an end date, and it’s relatively soon in sight, and that’s the nature of my terminal illness: I have a very large brain tumor and it’s killing me."

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She resonates because we were all once 29.

Advocates in the “death-with-dignity” cause — a decades-long push to give more Americans access to legal, end-of-life options — view Maynard’s crusade as “a tipping point.” They assert she seems to be engaging scores of younger people who likely never mulled this tortuous issue, typically faced by older folks.

“This movement is gaining traction by the hour,” said Barbara Coombs Lee, president of Compassion & Choices, a national nonprofit dedicated to expanding the rights of the terminally ill. “You have had Stephen Hawking saying, ‘I want this option,’ and Desmond Tutu saying he is devoting the last years to death with dignity. Then, suddenly, here’s this thing with Brittany, and you say: ‘It’s really happening. The tide has turned.'"

Maynard and her friends approached Compassion & Choices, asking if the Denver-based organization “would like to be part of our plan,” Coombs Lee said.

The group responded: “Yes, we would be honored,” but Coombs Lee emphasized, “This is her campaign.”

Image: Brittany Maynard and husband Dan Diaz at their Sept. 2013 wedding Tara L. Arrowood / Compassion & Choices - www.TheBrittanyFund.org

Brittany Maynard and husband Dan Diaz at their Sept. 2013 wedding. Maynard who has been diagnosed with terminal brain cancer, has chosen to end her life with doctor-assisted suicide.

“She resonates because we were all once 29. A lot of us remember when we were starting our families. And a lot of us have lost a loved one to a brutal disease,” Coombs said. “She is aware of the injustice that she had to uproot herself, her family, her home and establish a new home as a legitimate Oregon resident in order to qualify” to get the fast-acting drugs that, when swallowed, will caused her to fall asleep, depress her breathing, and end her life.

An attorney and former ER and ICU nurse, Coombs Lee coauthored Oregon’s Death with Dignity Act, on the books since 1997. In the ensuing years, more than 1,170 Oregon residents have obtained end-of-life prescriptions under the law, and more than 750 people have used them, according to Oregon state health records.

Four other states — Washington, Montana, Vermont and New Mexico — have aid-in-dying laws.

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"I will die upstairs in my bedroom ... with my mother and my husband by my side."

But Oregon ranks among the states with the highest “suicide rates,” said Jennifer Popik, legislative counsel for the National Right to Life Committee, which calls each of those deaths “a preventable tragedy.”

“While the case of Brittany Maynard is tragic, the fact of the matter is that in the states where doctor-prescribed suicide is legal and records are kept, most people seek suicide not because they are experiencing pain from illness, but because they feel like they are becoming a burden or losing autonomy,” Popik said.

“States that have laws legalizing doctor-prescribed suicide are turning their backs on vulnerable populations of people who are either depressed or worried about what their future holds,” she added. “… These laws do not offer a patient ‘dignity’ but only abandonment from health care workers and family who are supposed to care for patients and loved ones in these dire times.”

In the days that remain for her, Maynard hopes to spend as many hours outdoors as her body and energy will allow. Seizures and fatigue have set in.

Brittany Maynard: Dying With Dignity Provides 'Sense of Relief'
NBC News

But with an exit plan in place, she knows she has some control over the inevitable decline the tumor will cause.

Her final moment has been mapped. And it does not sound scary.

"I plan to be surrounded by my immediate family, which is my husband, and my mother and my stepfather and my best friend, who is also a physician," she says in the video.

“I will die upstairs in my bedroom that I share with my husband, with my mother and my husband by my side, and pass peacefully with some music I like in the background."
First published October 9th 2014, 5:08 am

FOR PHOTOS AND VIDEOS PLEASE CLICK HERE
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/cancer/why-newlywed-brittany-maynard-endin g-her-life-three-weeks-n221731

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posted October 10, 2014 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heart-wrenching story....only the good die young.

I support her cause.

What's difficult for me is knowing how often doctors are wrong and reckless when they say someone is "terminally ill." Many terminally ill people reverse their conditions, by modifying their diet, using supplements, detoxifying, etc...all therapies disdained by Western medicine.

Girl cures her terminal brain cancer on raw vegan diet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbw9RcHEhAg

Another glioblastoma survivor story: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUCMbn5eAxY

People need to be aware of their options. Yes, it's a tragedy when a dying person cannot obtain help in dying comfortably according to their wishes.

But it's also tragedy when the system suppresses and downplays the efficacy of therapies that may reverse a terminal illness.

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posted October 11, 2014 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 13, 2014 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Such a touchy subject. I can see why the issue would have such a hard time in the legal system.

But if she's dying the way she wants, given the condition she finds herself in, then more power to her. She's taking control and getting a lot of media attention for her cause, good for her. Ive seen other stories of the ill campaigning in the courts for this cause. Glad she has people close to her that care for her and who *Respect* her decision.
That's important.


Now to deal with the dimwits (esp the husbands) who decide to kill their families and then themselves.
/How/ do we get these guys to just end their own lives and be done with it.
Let's extend the compassionate "dying with dignity" all the way.
In a perfect world.

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posted October 13, 2014 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wanted to say when I see this, I get angry.

People can cure things with natural means but the medical industry makes it seem otherwise.

People need to be very independent thinkers to think outside this box, as well as any box lol

My heart goes out to her, of course, but it does not need to be this way imo

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posted October 14, 2014 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally support this brave woman's choice.
We give such to our pets but let fellow humans die lingering horrible deaths.
May her passing be gentle.

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posted October 14, 2014 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Now to deal with the dimwits (esp the husbands) who decide to kill their families and then themselves.
/How/ do we get these guys to just end their own lives and be done with it.
Let's extend the compassionate "dying with dignity" all the way.
In a perfect world.

That's not a medical condition, but could be mental illness. They're not likely to end their own lives alone because of our celebrated culture and the expectations we put on guys to be the alphas and go-getters who be "manly" (hold in emotions, be tough, don't ask for help, don't surrender, fight, and all the other stuff so many women love because it's expected and made part of the script/fantasy of both genders) which hurts and even destroys quite a few men who crumble psychologically under that (I'm surprised more men don't snap, though I'm just as surprised more women don't snap as well). Plenty of women don't want to see that stop either even if it's playing Russian Roulette. Luckily, the men who snap and shoot up their office or kill their families are relatively rare. I expect having the cars and oil desired (or the things dependent on such to be put in a store near your or delivered when ordered online) costs a lot more in human lives.

But if it bothers you then Emma Watson's UN speech might be of interest to you (hopefully that sentiment is shared by HeForShe and not just Emma Watson herself, otherwise there isn't anything you can do but clap and then find something else to think about).

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posted November 01, 2014 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.people.com/article/brittany-maynard-death-with-dignity-Nov-1

Crying for this girl

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posted November 02, 2014 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there an update?

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posted November 02, 2014 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw a picture of her yesterday looking quite fit for someone who was supposed to die in October.

Doctors should never give Death Sentences ie "you have x months to live". While I support a person's right to die at their own conscious decision, last seen she did not appear to be dying at all...spontaneous remissions happen.

Equally dastardly are the Docs who put a date on your expiration then pressure you to take chemo anyway...while promising it will NOT extend your life?

In Brittany's case she is taking steroids to "reduce inflammation" but still having seizures... which could be a side effect of the steroids as is the weight that she has gained these past months.

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posted November 02, 2014 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She has postponed due to feeling too well to die just yet! http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/30/brittany-maynard-terminally -ill-cancer-patient-ret/

A friend of mine had the last rites 4 times while she went up and down for over 5 years with brain cancer. Sometimes she was very sick, and others she was very well...seemed to go down for about 6 months, to death's door, then bounce back and be FINE for another 6...It was inoperable and did eventually kill her but had she taken this option her small children would have had no mother 4 years earlier...

I do still believe Brittany or any other person who really feels it is the end, should be able to make that decision. My own mother did, in a different way..by refusing any more medical interventions to prolong her very painful life. But before that she outlived the original quack prognosis by 8 YEARS.

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posted November 02, 2014 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She died. So sad. Too bad the medical establishment brainwashes people that they do not try the Gerson program or many of the others.

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posted November 02, 2014 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RIP. She made her choice as to whom to listen to as well as what to do about it.

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posted November 02, 2014 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.people.com/article/brittany-maynard-died-terminal-brain-cancer

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posted November 03, 2014 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

It goes without saying, I do hope she has found herself in a better place.

Song that comes to mind

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posted November 04, 2014 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"What does seem necessary is to get people educated about this topic, to have discussions be based on facts, not fear, and really have it be a healthcare choice, which is what makes it a freedom," Maynard said.

May she shine on in every state and voters choice on the right to die with dignity.

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posted November 19, 2014 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is just related to the thread title...

I never saw Diem Brown in any TV show or movie or whatever she was famous for..I just saw her in People magazine as they followed her battle with cancer.

And I love this pic of her two days before she died:

http://www.people.com/people/gallery/0,,20874123,00.html

That's the way I want to go. Thumbs up til the end.

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Death comes with a crawl, or comes with a pounce,
And whether he's slow or spry,
It isn't the fact that you're dead that counts,
But only how did you die?

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posted August 01, 2022 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping this taboo to talk about thread.
People feel free to talk about just about
anything👽😳

But dying and death topics are
it appears
the last serious taboos👽👽👽

No comments required
I just wanted to bump it up for those who missed it.

Brings to my the horrible hardships of a dear
Knowflake who finally felt that there was no other way to bear her terrible pain any longer,
and so she took her own life😢
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000261.html

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posted August 22, 2022 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 22, 2022 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seriously folks💙😀😎🌈
This is not
a gloomy signature line 😎
It's a statement of
realistically logical reasoning
that can help one hold
off on commiting to such an final irreversible act💙
Knowing that one does indeed have a
choice to at least to some degree
when it is time to go
actually helps a gravely ill and
even a terminally ill person
to hold off on suicide😎
🌈☺️ for today
then the next day comes
and one can say
not yet
not today
and that can go on and on and on
and on or until they slip way
naturally and suddenly and hopefully peacefully💙
Telling oneself evey time
the pain of it all
becomes nigh onto unbearable
whilst lying coiled in the
fetal position
the telling oneself to just
wait even five minutes and then
see if it is time to go yet
and keep repeating the tiny
interludes of resetting 💙
My concern is that such thoughts
must be also balanced with such
things as the laws concerning
the right to die with dignity
and availability or not of having
the choice of
assisted legal euthenasia
when unable to physically do it
due to being physically unable
to do it totally personally
without anyone
else giving assistance 😢👽😳
I do have a chosen legal
POA and a DNR
but not sure just exactly what
rights they afford in a state
where legal euthenasia is not
available👽😢
So for the times being
I just keep on telling myself
to just wait
wait 5 minutes
wait a day
wait wait wait
whilst in each horrific screaming
agonizing pain time
to tell myself to be honest about
just how much more writing in
gripping pain
do I feel that
I can realistically handle
saying to myself hold on
let the pain run its course
think about flooding myself with
natural endorphins which pain
triggers to cause a blessed increase
in these endorphins and then try
then to at least let my
body collapse into exhaustion
and hopefully endorphin overloads
leading to needed deep sleep💙
It helps to remind body and
mind that no matter how awful
it feels
that I must let the pain go on
long enough to
prompt the production of
our natural
fighters of pain those
love!y endorphins💙😎❤️🌈

Note:
At this time here
that I am NOT
speaking to of suicide as
a cure for mental and
psychological pain👽😢💙
That is an entirely different branch
of reasons folks kill themselves
which I am not addressing here
because that is not why I would
choose suicide 👽
My reasons are pain and my rights
not to be forced to suffer💙
To choice😎💙🌈


The thought of suicide
is a great consolation:
by means of it
one gets through
many a dark night.💙😎

― Nietzsche

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posted August 22, 2022 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kindly pardon any typos and or weird autofills 👽Am not seeing well
or typing well but wanted o post
nevertheless 💙


The thought of suicide
is a great consolation:
by means of it
one gets through
many a dark night.💙😎

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