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Frozen Queen
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posted June 07, 2011 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Musing upon several trails of thoughts, found a poem to echo my deepest convictions.

quote:
It happens all the time in heaven

It happens all the time in heaven,
And some day
It will begin to happen
Again on earth -
That men and women who are married,
And men and men who are
Lovers,
And women and women
Who give each other
Light,
Often will get down on their knees
And while so tenderly
Holding their lover's hand,
With tears in their eyes,
Will sincerely speak, saying,
"My dear,
How can I be more loving to you;
How can I be more
Kind?"

--Hafiz


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Ask Me anything. Anything. I will contrive to bring you the answer. The whole universe will I use to do this. So be on the lookout. This book is far from My only tool. You may ask a question, then put this book down. But watch. Listen. The words to the next song you hear. The information in the next article you read. The story line of the next movie you watch. The chance utterance of the next person you meet. Or the whisper of the next river, the next ocean, the next breeze that caresses your ear—all these devices are Mine; all these avenues are open to Me. I will speak to you if you will listen. I will come to you if you will invite Me. I will show you then that I have always been there. All ways.

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juniperb
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posted June 07, 2011 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a deep admirer of Hafiz and thank you for sharing

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~The Earth Laughs In Flowers~
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LEXX
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posted June 07, 2011 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Nikola Tesla
~There is no box.~H♥
~I remember, therefore I am immortal~LEXX
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charmainec
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posted June 08, 2011 06:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Randall
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posted June 11, 2011 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful words.

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juniperb
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posted January 09, 2013 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a Hafiz site where you contemplate a yearning question, ask and then a poem that contains your answer will be given in the poem.

Sufi writings and poetry contain numerous levels of meaning depending on your level of understanding. A contemplation of your poem should be done to arrive at it`s reply.

(I will try to find the site)


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We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek

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juniperb
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posted January 11, 2013 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Found it


The process is called "fal e Hafez", or the divination of
Hafiz.
http://www.hafizonlove.com/fal.htm

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We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek

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posted January 12, 2013 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"Fall down 100 times, get up 101...this is success." --ME

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juniperb
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posted January 18, 2013 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Give it a try Randall

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We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek

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posted January 18, 2013 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i tried it


Dervish laid a trap with slight of hands and trick of the eyes
With the help of this trickster merry-go-round mystifies.
Tricks of his fate will keep the rabbit in his hat
How can you trick those whom to secrets are wise?
Come hither wine-bearer, the Sufi's beautiful lover
Came with full grace, and evaded their many, many tries.
O minstrel, with what tune was inspired to head for Iraq
Longingly sang to return to the Arabian Hejaz?
Come O heart, let's commend ourselves unto the Lord
Keep from rolled up sleeve that outstretched arm belies.
Undeceived, whoever lost himself in compassion
In the Spirit of Love, his soul upward flies.
In the court of the Truth, at the time of our demise
Shame on he, who permissible never defies.
Where to now, O proud partridge, halt and pause
Your delusions, prayers of the pious cat, never ever identifies.
Hafiz, mad Dervishes upon the path, don't criticize
Freedom from false piety for eternity is our prize.

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posted January 18, 2013 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dee, did it help answer your question?
It is a beautiful and I "almost" can intuite your question

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We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek

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Dee
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posted January 18, 2013 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
Dee, did it help answer your question?
It is a beautiful and I "almost" can intuite your question


Yes Juni i did answer my question

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hippichick
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posted January 19, 2013 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, as I am sitting at work in a depressive quagmire, studying my poem after asking my question...

Here is the Persian lady I work with, a gifted reader...

They from the same land, she gave me some history on him..

NO COINCIDENCES EVER!!!

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posted January 19, 2013 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is what I got when asking about the terrible depression I am in...

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I have said many a time, and I’ll say it once again
Though I move upon this path, another my path maintain.
Behind the veil parrot-like, I am trained and entertain
I repeat what the Master has taught me and had me retain.
If I am a thorn or rose, adorn the grass, it is vain
To think I can grow without the nurturing hand and rain.
O friends, do not think I am heartless and insane
In search of a connoisseur, I am a gem of unique grain.
Though wine with my colorful robe causes many pain
I will not fault the elixir that washes every stain.
The lovers’ laughter and cry many layers do contain
At night I compose, and in the morn cry out my gain.
Hafiz said, from breathing in dust of the tavern do refrain
Fault me not, this is the way that this aroma I regain.

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posted January 19, 2013 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And Frozen Queen....I absolutely do believe of love beyond gender.

I have said often I love my kids, my family, my cats, my dogs, my roses, the moon as it drifts past my windows, a sunset, a sunrise...a girlfriend, a man...all the same..just expressed in different ways~

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hippichick
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posted January 19, 2013 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and, Frozen Queen, I do believe one day my eldest daughter and her girfriend will use this most awesome poem at their wedding...

thank you SO much for sharing~

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Randall
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posted January 20, 2013 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz

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posted January 21, 2013 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great poem, indeed.

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"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz

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Randall
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posted April 19, 2013 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Miss you, FQ.

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Venus
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posted April 22, 2013 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FQ is amazing! i'm glad i have her on Facebook..

Juni thanks for the link, it did not answer my question but those are lovely poems.

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Randall
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posted June 08, 2013 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Randall
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posted June 30, 2013 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, she's on my friend list.

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posted October 02, 2013 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Miss you, FQ.

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posted December 20, 2013 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Randall
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posted May 17, 2014 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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