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Tofu addict
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posted December 10, 2011 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like this threat, i have my own opinions but seldon air them to my friends, as i will be an outsider, they are all broody, and want children, and have them, one after the other, every time i have to pretend that i am delighted for them, while i only think, another being in this already overpopupalated and stretched earth. And a lot of my friends use the IVF and other treatments, they are hellbend on getting children, obsessed, and get depressed if they are not pregnant . There is more to life, if you want to do good, adopt or foster, but people want to clone themselves, i never understood that.

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Mblake81
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posted December 10, 2011 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Reproduce as much DNA as possible before death so the species can survive.

2. Discovered out how to bypass nature to live longer.

3. More DNA can survive.


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Tofu addict
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posted December 11, 2011 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not sure if it is a good idea that the specie survives, the human one i mean, i would not lose one night sleep over it if we die out, better for the planet. We destroy it, are doing a good job already

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NativelyJoan
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posted December 11, 2011 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I'm not too concerned with human extinction. It's apart of our existence to evolve and inevitably die out. And for millenniums species of human beings have died out and evolved. It's the cycle of life and death, it's unavoidable. I'm more concerned with the state of our globe at this very moment, and the welfare of humanity and the natural planet at its current state.

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PixieJane
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posted December 12, 2011 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This blows my mind: an antigay politician is so upset that his wife can't have children that he donated sperm to lesbians simply out of desperation to reproduce!
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/anti-gay_alabama_goper_secretly_donated_sperm_to_l.php

Wow, just wow.

I have had moments (that I consider temporary insanity) where I had an overwhelming desire to conceive a child, but I fought it and it quickly goes away. But I guess the drive to reproduce is much stronger in others rather than a mere social obligation.

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Mblake81
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posted December 12, 2011 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would rather see us survive, in a lasting way.

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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted December 16, 2011 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
That morning after pill has some heinous side-effects.


What side effects do you mean Randall?

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Randall
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posted December 17, 2011 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just about every drug has potential side-effects, up to and including death. I just recall this one due to a Knowflake trying it. She posted a bunch of ones she experienced, but I don't recall the details.

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juniperb
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posted December 18, 2011 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Just about every drug has potential side-effects, up to and including death. I just recall this one due to a Knowflake trying it. She posted a bunch of ones she experienced, but I don't recall the details.


True. Anytime we ingest a substance, it provides an opening to side effects.

So we simply must make a personal decision on "is the benefit worth the potential cost".

I don`t recall that particular Knowflake but am aware it can be risky.

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juniperb
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posted December 18, 2011 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thoughts? :

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CVS Refused to Sell Man Plan B Morning-After Pill
By Mikaela Conley | ABC News Blogs – Fri, Dec 16, 2011 12:04 PM EST.. .

CVS Pharmacy offered a mea culpa Thursday after a pharmacist denied the sale of the morning-after pill to Isaac Kurtz of Houston. The pharmacist told Kurtz she was acting on "personal belief" and not store policy.

"She tells me she needs to speak with the woman," Kurtz told the Houston Press. "I'm taken aback by this and ask her what she needs to talk to her about. I bought them here before without issue. She then tells me she won't sell it to me."

CVS store policy does not prohibit men from buy the morning-after pill, and under federal law, anyone over the age of 17 can buy Plan B without a prescription.

"We apologize for the isolated incident in our Houston pharmacy in which a male customer was unable to purchase this item," CVS spokesman Michael DeAngelis said in a statement. "We are following up on the pharmacy staff to ensure that our policies are properly followed to prevent a recurrence of this incident."

Last week, the Food and Drug Administration deemed Plan B One-Step a safe and effective nonprescription medication for all women of childbearing years. The decision would have allowed the product to be available over-the-counter to people of all ages, but, in an unprecedented move, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius blocked the pill from hitting drug store shelves.

"Last week's decision added confusion to Plan B," said Susan Wood, director of the Jacobs Institute of Women's Health in Washington D.C. "It made people think there was a safety issue or it somehow affected younger teens' desire to participate in risky sexual behavior. Of course, neither of those are true, and those who don't know all the information now have misinformation."

Because Plan B is not sold on store shelves, Woods said pharmacists end up acting as gatekeepers for the product.

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/cvs-refused-sell-man-plan-b-morning-pill-170403574.html

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PixieJane
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posted December 19, 2011 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't understand why people take jobs and then refused to do them. It's like if someone who hates alcohol because of all the abuse, accidents, violence, and health problems it caused and yet took a job at a store that sold alcohol but then refused to actually sell it. It's just stupid to me. I can understand being morally against a product, but if it's so strong that you can't sell it then take the job in the first place! (Or at least tell the one who hires you in advance as fair warning.)

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Stawr
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posted December 22, 2011 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I don't understand why people take jobs and then refused to do them. It's like if someone who hates alcohol because of all the abuse, accidents, violence, and health problems it caused and yet took a job at a store that sold alcohol but then refused to actually sell it. It's just stupid to me. I can understand being morally against a product, but if it's so strong that you can't sell it then take the job in the first place! (Or at least tell the one who hires you in advance as fair warning.)

That reminds me of someone I met. She was nice and pretty. Her beliefs where different than mine...but she never pushed them on me. She just told me what she beleived in, but didn't tell me what to do.

Any who she told me she worked at a drug store for a while but then quit cause they started to sell something that's against her morals.
I wonder what it was (didn't ask her)
At first I was thinking porn. lol but then I'm like oh maybe birth control. Who knows.

She's in her 30's though

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Randall
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posted December 23, 2011 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted January 25, 2012 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump

for future reading

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posted January 30, 2012 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Testicular zap 'may stop sperm'

A dose of ultrasound to the testicles can stop the production of sperm, according to researchers investigating a new form of contraception.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16756381

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