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The Age of Pisces and the coming Age of Aquarius encourage us to look beyond the five senses and experience true living by relying on guidance from the creator. Aquarius will be an Age when we truly realize that the love we show towards our brothers is the love we feel towards ourselves. This represents the oneness of all things which fosters unconditional love. Dehyana Lee Lim from Anchoring the Light has been my greatest teacher of unconditional love, forgiveness, and it's importance for the coming new age.

During the Age of Pisces, we were TOLD what to believe through religions, authority figures, dictators, etc. These powers have been losing ground and the shift is now away from "power over others." The emphasis will now be "power over self." This debacle of power will escalate as we near the end of the Age of Pisces.

The sign before Pisces, Aquarius, representing the self's recognition of its part in collective humanity, the need for service to mankind, egalitarianism, and a desire for a utopian good The Age of Pisces, with its emphasis on spirituality and compassion, and being a water sign, has been viewed as a time of cleansing for humanity, a spiritual preparation for the Age of Aquarius when the level of the collective unconscious will rise as each person raises their own consciousness,33 and when man turns from outer wisdom to his own inner wisdom for guidance. As one astrologer puts it:

The year 2000 heralds the beginning of a time when the qualities taught by these masters [Christ and Buddha] and others -- love, altruism, nonattachment, faith, calm, and centeredness -- will be called forth from the general populace. There will not be one spiritual master to lead us from darkness to light....but each of us must master our own journey from personal darkness to light.34

Aquarius will be an Age when we truly realize that the love we show towards our brothers is the love we feel towards ourselves. This represents the oneness of all things which fosters unconditional love. Dehyana Lee Lim from Anchoring the Light has been my greatest teacher of unconditional love, forgiveness, and it's importance for the coming new age.

Science and technology will be used to improve human and environmental situations on earth, and not for monetary gain. We will finally know the true meaning of "progress." In the Aquarian Age progress will represent decisions or activities where ALL things and people gain from the change. Sound impossible? It's not.

We will finally KNOW we are not "victims" of circumstances, but the "creators" of our experiences. And, we will also know how to change our earthly situation. The focus will be on making our lives a heaven on earth. It will be the second coming of Christ, but this time we will KNOW he never left us. He was always within us trying to guide us, but we wouldn't listen. Why? Because we thought we knew better, and listened to the voice of our ego instead. We will finally know and live the heavenly lives God intended for us from the beginning.

The Age of Pisces opened a window to further our spiritual understanding. Once Aquarius takes hold, we just may come to know we are one with the creator.

There are great cycles in the cosmos which rule great events. One such is the cycle of the Great Zodiac Ages which spans almost 26,000 years. This is the time it takes our planet's equatorial plane(due to its axial wobble) to regress one full cycle along the solar plane(ecliptic). Each zodiac age can last anywhere from 2000 to 2300 years. The Age of Pisces in which we live is one of the shortest ages, beginning in 26 AD and ending in 2012 AD -or a total of just over 1986 years. In 1945 we entered the last degree of Pisces. Here are the ages and their durations...

Aries, Pisces, Libra, Virgo-------------1986.37 years
Aquarius, Scorpio, Leo, Taurus-----------2129.04 years
Capricorn, Sagittarius, Cancer,Gemini----2291.28 years

These lengths are based on the Earth's electromagnetic(astrological) composition. The dates at which each begins or ends is based on the Mayan calender.

The Mayan Great Year is 25,626.83 years, which is then divided into five periods of 5125.36 years or 1,872,000 days. These five "Worlds" or "Suns" do not necessarily correspond with the astrological ages, but the end of this fourth World does. The Mayan Fourth World or Sun began in 3113 BC and ends in 2012 AD.

The Mayans use 5, 10, and 20 (fingers and toes) as their base numbers, and a whole octave series of dates around these key numbers can be built, as follows...

5125yrs-----3113BC-2012AD Mayan 4th World
512.5yrs----1500-2012AD The Americas
51.25yrs----1961-2012AD Photon Belt
5.125yrs----2007-2012AD Pole Shift

Each successive period is ten times shorter, yet ten times more intense. The last 512 years were ten times more intense than the whole 4th World period. The last 51-year End Time period is 100 times more intense than the whole 4th World period and ten times more intense than the whole Modern era of the New World or Americas. The last 5-year period will be 1000 times more intense than the whole 4th World period, 100 times more intense than the Modern or Colonialist period, and 10 times more intense than the End-Time or Photon period. Every 5125-year period intensifies in this manner until it is ended by a worldwide flood, fire, or other global catastrophe, from which humanity has to start all over again.

While the crossover from one age to the next can take hundreds of years, the critical midpoint between the Age of Pisces and the Age of Aquarius is December 21st, 2012 AD, when the Earth's equatorial plane aligns exactly with the galactic center. The Ages are a purely planetary phenomenon based on the planet's wobble. The source of this wobble is in dispute, although I suspect it is linked to our planet's inner sun(our planet is hollow containing an inner central sun). Each planet has its own ages.

Each Age has a theme, and the theme of the Age of Pisces is Christianity (Sagittarius is on the Midheaven). Both Pisces and Sagittarius are "spiritual" signs interested in the larger meaning of life. The theme(s) of the coming Age of Aquarius will be truth and brotherhood.

The best Age for this planet is Libra, since this is its ruling sign. The last such age was from 14,773 to 12,787 BC. Next best are Gemini(6380 to 4089 BC) and Aquarius(2012 to 4142 AD). The Age of Pisces is NOT a good Age for this planet, as Pisces represents the eigth house of death for Libra.

What is special about the Age of Aquarius is that not only is it a "good" Age, but it is also during this age that our solar system is going to be inside the photon belt. Every 10,684 years, our solar system enters this belt of photonic energy for a period of over 2100 years, usually during the Ages of Leo or Aquarius. When it was last in Leo, Atlantis reigned supreme in a Golden Age.

Photon energy is divine enegry or what the bible calls the Holy Spirit, and which comes from the center of Creation and is stepped down to the galactic, solar, planetary, and individual levels. We will in effect be reconnected to our divine source. This will raise the vibratory level to the point where people will either resist and die or let go and be transformed into a light being. The Earth itself will be transformed and shine like a star as its inner central sun is finally fully turned on. This is the new heaven and earth.

Our solar system began its entry into the belt in the early 1960's and won't be fully immersed for another hundred years or so. Earth's orbit will be fully immersed by late 2012 AD. The effect of this will be like turning the light switch to the "on" position. This new energy will power everything from our bodies to gadgets and transportation systems. The old sources of energy will no longer work or be needed.

During the ensuing Millennium everyone will work towards making this planet a paradise again, and after the 1000 years are over there will be a great Graduation event of souls who have achieved light being status as well as a great Resurrection of all souls throughout history who will be given 100 years to relive their lives and come to the truth. All those left behind will still have another 1000 years of grace before Earth and the solar system exit the photon belt and enter once again into another long night of 10,684 years, wherein only the interior of the planet will remain a paradise.

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posted September 18, 2012 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for greatquincunx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
more laptops, better ipods, android funnel cake update!

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posted September 18, 2012 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
God, i hope so..

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posted September 18, 2012 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There will always be religion, imo. Religion was there in the other ages prior to Pisces. During the Age of Pisces, Christianity was the dominant religion. During the Age of Aquarius, some other type of religions (more New Agey types) will be more dominant, I suspect, along with a good dose of atheism.

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posted September 18, 2012 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by greatquincunx:
more laptops, better ipods, android funnel cake update!

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posted September 18, 2012 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mercuranian:
God, i hope so..

It feels like its already going that way! It seems people are waking up to see religions oppression!
I hope so to!

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posted September 18, 2012 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
There will always be religion, imo. Religion was there in the other ages prior to Pisces. During the Age of Pisces, Christianity was the dominant religion. During the Age of Aquarius, some other type of religions (more New Agey types) will be more dominant, I suspect, along with a good dose of atheism.

Please dont be Scientology
Please dont be Scientology
Please dont be Scientology
Please dont be Scientology
God, i hope its not scientology...

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posted September 18, 2012 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great topic Gabby

moving to Aquarius Rising
(is this the right forum Randall? )

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Oh, I'm sure a lot of people want it to. But it won't.It'll just be more condemnation and a pile-on sh*tfest. And that's already going on now, so more of the same.

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posted September 19, 2012 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As this century keeps moving forward, I would say no.

Not as in the "end" of religion as it`s worded.
I do believe it will take longer for it`s demise. But we do note many more of the mass`s moving from doctrine to a higher understanding.


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posted September 20, 2012 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nice one Gabby,

i think if religion does demise in the future it would be our fault. the way religion has been practiced over the past centuries has caused "those who are not blinded by their religion" to realize the controversy between "preaching" and "practicing". However religion, on its own is an absolute necessity imo. Human beings always have to believe in something greater or else, what motivation would drive you to endour the worse?

the way i see it, if religions are bound to fade it's not before many many years to come. but i don't think the world would be a better place without them. the fighting, for one, will continue. if not in the name of God then maybe in the name of nuclear reactors? or maybe even trees. God knows if we would have any trees left by then..


on a side note, yesterday we had an in class excersise were we were givin a list of 10 people who were gonna be saved from the doomed earth and we were to chose the three people out of the ten who were to be left behind. my first choice was a "70year old clergy" never the less i had quite an argument with the rest of the class

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posted September 20, 2012 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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nice one Gabby,

i think if religion does demise in the future it would be our fault. the way religion has been practiced over the past centuries has caused "those who are not blinded by their religion" to realize the controversy between "preaching" and "practicing". However religion, on its own is an absolute necessity imo. Human beings always have to believe in something greater or else, what motivation would drive you to endour the worse?

the way i see it, if religions are bound to fade it's not before many many years to come. but i don't think the world would be a better place without them. the fighting, for one, will continue. if not in the name of God then maybe in the name of nuclear reactors? or maybe even trees. God knows if we would have any trees left by then..


on a side note, yesterday we had an in class excersise were we were givin a list of 10 people who were gonna be saved from the doomed earth and we were to chose the three people out of the ten who were to be left behind. my first choice was a "70year old clergy" never the less i had quite an argument with the rest of the class


I agree.

Personally, it bugs me that the question of religion is often two camps: anti-religion, or pro-religion. There are so many more nuanced positions in between.

I don't think that religion in and of itself is a bad thing. What is good or bad, to me, is how it is practiced. I think it's good, too, to remember that there are many different religions and many different denominations/sub-groups within those religions. Just because one religion does horrible things doesn't mean that all of them do. I think it's important to make distinctions and not to lump people in together who really aren't on the same side.

I don't want spirituality and religion to go away. Some forms of them, yes. Some practices, yes. But to have no spirituality or love for God at all? That would be a big loss, in my book.

I don't think that the answer is "no God" or "no religion". Even without religion, you are still going to have a lot of other problems, and possibly create new ones. I don't think a religion-less world would be this sort of utopia that anti-religion folks think it would be.

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I don't think that the answer is "no God" or "no religion". Even without religion, you are still going to have a lot of other problems, and possibly create new ones. I don't think a religion-less world would be this sort of utopia that anti-religion folks think it would be.

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posted September 20, 2012 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Human beings always have to believe in something greater or else, what motivation would drive you to endour the worse?

Family? Loved ones? Life itself?

Worked for me.

And unfortunately the worse many endure is because of religion, and people have also been driven to suicide because of the religious beliefs that were imposed on them.

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family, love etc.. yes i agree.

but that moment you start to think about your mortality, and the mortality of the ones you love, when you lose one of them, or think about losing them, then what? what sense is there to live in a world where we wither away to non existance? us and the ones we love. i can't live in that world..

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posted September 21, 2012 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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family, love etc.. yes i agree.

but that moment you start to think about your mortality, and the mortality of the ones you love, when you lose one of them, or think about losing them, then what? what sense is there to live in a world where we wither away to non existance? us and the ones we love. i can't live in that world..


In that case I hope the AoA sees the ascendancy of religions like Wicca, Taoism, Jainism, and Universal Unitarianism (among others) as those can provide the comfort you need without inspiring others of the same religion to self-righteous cruelty or suicide (or those who feel the pain of someone who died who was of the "wrong religion" or suicide or being murdered over something forbidden like "gay" because they now believe their loved one is in Hell).

(ETA: I just thought of the 1992 Dracula where the mortal Dracula, after learning his beloved committed suicide and the church leaders said she was in Hell, renounced God and turned to the powers of darkness. You know, if I believed as he did, and sacrificed as he did, I think I might have had a similar reaction...)

For that matter, even the traditional religions could start teaching TRUE morality, like the golden rule. For example, I'm thinking of the suicide of Tempest Smith, a 12-year-old Wiccan who was tormented by her school for it but the kids were wracked by guilt and the school faculty who allowed the girl to be bullied (they watched at times doing nothing, perhaps thinking it would turn her Christian so she didn't burn eternally, who knows?) tried intervening and telling the kids to not feel bad. Uh, yes, tormenting someone until she hung herself IS bad, and if your religion doesn't let you know that (and that's not counting the Christian preachers who PROMOTE bullying and child abuse for being different) then that religion...well, best not say it. Luckily many of the kids reformed, showing once again that sometimes kids are more enlightened than the adults. Of course if they're Christian then they have to be haunted by the likely fact (given their premise) that the little girl they drove to suicide is either dead or suffering eternally thanks to them, and possibly her mom as well (what a burden to carry).

Luckily my beliefs don't have me imagining her suffering such a dire post-death fate. OTOH, only being certain of this life made her life that much more precious to me, something I don't think many people who believe unquestionably in eternal life can understand.

But again, I hope the AoA can see religions (and their focus on the next life at the expense of this one) become more like this:
http://zenpencils.com/comic/carl-sagan-make-the-most-of-this-life/

We've overcome such barbarity in the name of religion already so I have hope that one day the journey may be completed.

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posted September 22, 2012 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In that case I hope the AoA sees the ascendancy of religions like Wicca, Taoism, Jainism, and Universal Unitarianism (among others)

i agree. why not.

i see no harm in any faith, as long as it does not promote violence, hate, or injustice. and that you don't push it down my throat because frankly i don't care..

not to stray away from the main topic, i think faith is what should withstand time, and maybe -i said maybe- not religion in itself.

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posted September 23, 2012 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We will always have sorrow and the need to link with a higher power. Hence, we will always have religion.

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"Science and technology will be used to improve human and environmental situations on earth, and not for monetary gain."

made me think of Venus Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqplP-E8Dvw&feature=fvwp&NR=1

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Any religion that has externalized their god/path to self salvation is completely doomed by its design

The Neo-Platonics made that quite clear oh... about 2000 years ago, too bad few listened! Guess we just get to watch them self implode/rapture at this point, fun

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Some of the oldest religions have been around for so long that they probably always will be.

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nice one Gabby,

i think if religion does demise in the future it would be our fault. the way religion has been practiced over the past centuries has caused "those who are not blinded by their religion" to realize the controversy between "preaching" and "practicing". However religion, on its own is an absolute necessity imo. Human beings always have to believe in something greater or else, what motivation would drive you to endour the worse?

the way i see it, if religions are bound to fade it's not before many many years to come. but i don't think the world would be a better place without them. the fighting, for one, will continue. if not in the name of God then maybe in the name of nuclear reactors? or maybe even trees. God knows if we would have any trees left by then..


on a side note, yesterday we had an in class excersise were we were givin a list of 10 people who were gonna be saved from the doomed earth and we were to chose the three people out of the ten who were to be left behind. my first choice was a "70year old clergy" never the less i had quite an argument with the rest of the class


Wow! I respect what your saying, and theres good in everything...but honestly i see religion as a belief in God that has been put into a structured form allowing everyone to come together into a shared belief...
If we all believe in God, agreed to love without condemnation, without judgement and without control....isnt that a religion...but a much more godly religion...its a religion without mans ego at the forefront!
So, i believe we don't need clergy, or the "religion" of today that keeps us in check through fear! If we all chose to look inside our heart for Gods love and we all share the same insight...God comes from within, no building, or organization brings God to us....we bring God to them. If we congregated only to say, God is inside each of us...but its soo nice when we all come together to share it!
Religion doesnt give credit to us, they take away our belief in ourselves and belief that God flows through us when they don't respect the origin of God's spirit being given to them....through us. I believe religion has taken us away from God! Every judgement we make about someone without understanding their core, without understanding the reason for their behaviors, every time we think we have the right to look down on someone due to their "wrong doing" according to religion is a step away from God..

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I agree.

Personally, it bugs me that the question of religion is often two camps: anti-religion, or pro-religion. There are so many more nuanced positions in between.

I don't think that religion in and of itself is a bad thing. What is good or bad, to me, is how it is practiced. I think it's good, too, to remember that there are many different religions and many different denominations/sub-groups within those religions. Just because one religion does horrible things doesn't mean that all of them do. I think it's important to make distinctions and not to lump people in together who really aren't on the same side.

I don't want spirituality and religion to go away. Some forms of them, yes. Some practices, yes. But to have no spirituality or love for God at all? That would be a big loss, in my book.

I don't think that the answer is "no God" or "no religion". Even without religion, you are still going to have a lot of other problems, and possibly create new ones. I don't think a religion-less world would be this sort of utopia that anti-religion folks think it would be.


Religion isnt bad, but hurting ppl with the beliefs they teach is bad!

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
In that case I hope the AoA sees the ascendancy of religions like Wicca, Taoism, Jainism, and Universal Unitarianism (among others) as those can provide the comfort you need without inspiring others of the same religion to self-righteous cruelty or suicide (or those who feel the pain of someone who died who was of the "wrong religion" or suicide or being murdered over something forbidden like "gay" because they now believe their loved one is in Hell).

(ETA: I just thought of the 1992 Dracula where the mortal Dracula, after learning his beloved committed suicide and the church leaders said she was in Hell, renounced God and turned to the powers of darkness. You know, if I believed as he did, and sacrificed as he did, I think I might have had a similar reaction...)

For that matter, even the traditional religions could start teaching TRUE morality, like the golden rule. For example, I'm thinking of the suicide of Tempest Smith, a 12-year-old Wiccan who was tormented by her school for it but the kids were wracked by guilt and the school faculty who allowed the girl to be bullied (they watched at times doing nothing, perhaps thinking it would turn her Christian so she didn't burn eternally, who knows?) tried intervening and telling the kids to not feel bad. Uh, yes, tormenting someone until she hung herself IS bad, and if your religion doesn't let you know that (and that's not counting the Christian preachers who PROMOTE bullying and child abuse for being different) then that religion...well, best not say it. Luckily many of the kids reformed, showing once again that sometimes kids are more enlightened than the adults. Of course if they're Christian then they have to be haunted by the likely fact (given their premise) that the little girl they drove to suicide is either dead or suffering eternally thanks to them, and possibly her mom as well (what a burden to carry).

Luckily my beliefs don't have me imagining her suffering such a dire post-death fate. OTOH, only being certain of this life made her life that much more precious to me, something I don't think many people who believe unquestionably in eternal life can understand.

But again, I hope the AoA can see religions (and their focus on the next life at the expense of this one) become more like this:
http://zenpencils.com/comic/carl-sagan-make-the-most-of-this-life/

We've overcome such barbarity in the name of religion already so I have hope that one day the journey may be completed.



I agree...we need a structure for our spirituality, we need to congregate and share our love...But most ppl can't see outside of the traditional religion, which hurts so many!
Religion is supposed to be about love...but todays religion seems to have forgotten all about that, its more about control and keeping superiority over others by being "good" in God's eyes while judging others! Not Godly at all...God is love and thats not loving!

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