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Topic: Cook vs. Chef
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PlutoSurvivor
Moderator Posts: 1047
From: USA
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 12, 2014 08:14 PM
  
So, what in your opinion, differentiates a Cook from a Chef?
Can someone without formal training be a Chef?I'm posing this question because I met a Saucier recently. Not really, he's not designated as such or formally trained, but specializes in making sauces. I asked him if he was a Cook or a Chef. This brought on an interesting conversation and his answer was that he loved to make sauces. so I'm asking personal opinions, what do you consider a Cook, and what do you consider a Chef? IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 44916
From: Saturn next to Charmainec
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 14, 2014 02:06 PM
That's tough. I see chefs without formal training on tv competition shows like Chopped and Cutthroat Kitchen. Chef Robert Irvine had no formal training! IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted September 16, 2014 12:51 AM
Chefs create  IP: Logged |
Node
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From: 2,021 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM
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posted September 27, 2014 12:37 PM
Professionally or, non professionally?Chef as a title professionally has a specific definition often differing from definitions perceived by the general public. The professional, not only creates, but delegates. There are sub titles to Chef in the professional world. Ex: An Executive Chef is in charge of: Costing - raw materials to plate
Hiring
Firing
Team management
Menu creation
Supplies - both front of the house & back of the house [kitchen]
Equipment repair / maintained / replacement
Kitchen design
Publicity
Supervise wait staff- re: food to dinning room.
Expedite the food to the table, if the property is large enough, training a person to do so.
And more  A Chef~ as ~ Chef in particular -is in charge of the kitchen. The term kitchen "manager" has been applied by large chains to remove certain responsibilities, and to pay less. Television has blurred the lines of definition. Large conglomerate corporations have also done so. Today the term chef still refers to someone who manages a kitchen. Yes indeed someone without formal training can be a chef. You might need a stellar resume, depending on your sights of employment. Ritz Carleton or Joe's Crab Shack? Saucier is an important position. With great technique, flavor, consistency, and production results, many chefs would consider this person to be right behind their sous chef. A great saucier is very valuable.
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Randall
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posted September 27, 2014 01:31 PM
The line of differentiation blurs. Thanks for the clarification.IP: Logged |
PlutoSurvivor
Moderator Posts: 1047
From: USA
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 27, 2014 08:33 PM
Excellent explanation, Node, thanks!IP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 28, 2014 07:51 AM
Node!! I thought of you when I saw this thread.  I made a joke but put it on the wrong thread : Cook is chef spelled wrong.  But after your explaination, I see the enormous differences in responsibilities! ------------------
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