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posted October 31, 2008 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You are helping me. Enormously, in fact. More than I can tell you. This is how you help me.

It doesn't feel like it.

I feel like you're collecting my organs and i'm giving you a band aid.

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Meta,

"Someone who can heal whatever i've broken, whatever mess i've made will have me forever. I will be bound with or without my consent."
See, that`s where we are different again.

I don`t believe that any other person can heal my wound. HE can understand me, accept me, love me for what I am, WITH my wound, despite, because of, whatever. Just me, as a complex package. But he cannot heal me.

I have come to believe that the wound is a part of me, and I have accepted it. It can never be healed, not completely.
But the moment I accepted it, I actually started feeling COMPLETE on my own. I was taking back that wounded little girl inside me and saying "Yes" to her and her imperfections, and that was all she had ever been asking of me, but I couldn`t see, because I was so busy judging her as ugly and nasty and STUPID and hiding her away, so noone could see.

I don`t know if I talk too much confusing stuff here, but I feel like I can not only live with her, but that i am actually only whole with her. Even with all the mistakes she (I) made, the dreams that never came true (and I always found HER guilty of that).
But she was only a little girl that carried her heart on her sleeve and believed that fairytales could come true. Hardly can hold it against her now. (Well, she is me of course, or rather, the part of me that got stuck in the past)

Sorry, I think I kinda lost the thread.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But i don't think i want everyone to see it. I know i don't. I want a select few. I want those i can trust, which... well, isn't a lot of people i'm afraid. I dismiss many candidates. Too demanding am i.

Not everyone sees it. That's the thing. Only those who can. Who know it themselves, somehow. And you can't control who that is necessarily.

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I want this "Soulmate", this ideal person i keep talking about to know it. I want them to be able to take it on and fix it. That's what i've meant all this time. That's who and what i'm looking for.

This is what I believe/see. That the only person who can give you that is yourself. You can learn that from others or they can open certain parts of you - but ultimately, the only person who fixes you/loves you is yourself. I know that soulmate to complete/fix you is what you're looking for. I understand that. That's a big task to assign another mortal - to save/rescue you. When they are there to save/rescue/love themselves too. That's my view/understanding.

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Someone who can heal whatever i've broken, whatever mess i've made will have me forever. I will be bound with or without my consent.

No-one else can heal inside you. They can band-aid it. But that's it - it's superficial. The love that you need - it comes from you. Even if it comes from the belief in you that someone else helps instill into you - your beloved - but it's your own love that heals you. Again, IMO.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PA,

yes, how do we help you?

I also feel, you`re our angel, but we don`t give equally back in return.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Is it bad that i don't want that? Is it bad that i don't want help? Is it an age thing?

It's when you get tired of people treating you like sh1t. And you finally tell yourself that deserve better and want better. And when you're ready to accept who you are and give yourself that unconditional love that you're waiting for someone else to give to you.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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but we don`t give equally back in return.

God! Of course you do! Trust me. And, umm, I'm not really doing anything - LOL! You make me laugh. I give you a couple of insights and I'm an angel - LOL! Get yourselves together.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm totally gaga over Robert Downey jr - how much of an angel could I possibly be!

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posted October 31, 2008 01:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An Earthangel with a bad taste in men?

Oops, didn`t mean to say it. You know I LOVE RDJ, but I just couldn`t let this opportunity pass

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Besides in the last days I got the impression you were even more gaga over Colin

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posted October 31, 2008 01:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I hate to go, but I have to.

Need to get something to eat for the weekend.
I can`t live off our talks and Julian`s video`s on you tube alone.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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An Earthangel with a bad taste in men?
Oops, didn`t mean to say it. You know I LOVE RDJ, but I just couldn`t let this opportunity pass

ROFL - I wouldn't expect or want you too. You know I love it when you take the p1ss out of me as much as when I do it to you. There's nothing more humbling than a good laugh at yourself. And at Rafe!

Bad taste? Umm, well that's going too far!

btw - you didn't answer my questions from the other thread re: the conjunctions.

RDJ is wonderful. But not my soulmate, as you have suggested. Nice thought though - but not true. Very close - yes - kindreds - yes - but not twinflames/soulmates - definitely not.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I know that soulmate to complete/fix you is what you're looking for. I understand that. That's a big task to assign another mortal - to save/rescue you. When they are there to save/rescue/love themselves too. That's my view/understanding.

But the point is that I save them and THEY save me. I don't want it to be just one-sided. And i know that goes against what you're trying to help me understand but i.. i cannot undo what's been done. I cannot unwant what i want. I can't stop looking for this.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Besides in the last days I got the impression you were even more gaga over Colin

Yeah - him too! Just in a very different way.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No-one else can heal inside you. They can band-aid it. But that's it - it's superficial. The love that you need - it comes from you. Even if it comes from the belief in you that someone else helps instill into you - your beloved - but it's your own love that heals you. Again, IMO.


Well i'm not willing or capable of giving that right now.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to head off too soon. Nearly 4.30am.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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quote:Is it bad that i don't want that? Is it bad that i don't want help? Is it an age thing?

It's when you get tired of people treating you like sh1t. And you finally tell yourself that deserve better and want better. And when you're ready to accept who you are and give yourself that unconditional love that you're waiting for someone else to give to you.


I think i don't want it because i haven't found someone to cure it. I haven't spotted that potential. I'm holding out. I'm doing it to myself.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sound rather sadistic!

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posted October 31, 2008 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And, umm, I'm not really doing anything - LOL! You make me laugh. I give you a couple of insights and I'm an angel - LOL! Get yourselves together.

Oh but you do...

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posted October 31, 2008 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have to head off too soon. Nearly 4.30am.

Yes, i have to go as well.

Lovely chat ladies. Earth-shattering as always!

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PA,

"Nice thought though - but not true. Very close - yes - kindreds - yes - but not twinflames/soulmates - definitely not."
It`s actually what I feel about Jude.
AStrologically definitely soulmates, maybe even twinflames (Even though you can`t really see it in astrology I think; the only pleace you can find that knowledge is your own soul and heart).

I do feel very very close to him. You know it`s ALMOST like twinsouls, but just the last piece is msising. And I`ve always known. Deep inside. That is why I always held back in my infatuation with him.
But even having said that, I deeply care for him, and I know I could fall in love with him, without any doubt.

I still don`t understand, though, why in that first dream I had, he transformed into Julian. I guess this mystery will never be solved.

Meta,

" But the point is that I save them and THEY save me. I don't want it to be just one-sided."
But couldn`t it be, that a soulmate just opens you up to the possibility of being healed, just through his love and understanding. And that this opening of doors lead to the healing, which would include that you learn to forgive yourself and accept and love yourself?

That is at least how i see it.

But of course everyone has their own experiences, their own timing.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It's not sadistic - it's just where you're at right now. Quit judging yourself and it'll be easier.

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Well i'm not willing or capable of giving that right now.

Sure - it comes in time - when you are ready. It's just there. It'll come. Don't force. Just let it unfold. Don't hold it in your thoughts - but be mindful of it - without forcing. Just let it be. And just be who you are. The rest just takes care of itself. It's when you resist that you encounter obstacles. Life has a way of taking you where you need to be.

And the rest - well, you know "wax on, wax off". It's all good. At the end of the day you're meant to love yourelf - whether that come through the eyes of a lover, a beloved, a child or God or whatever, it's the same for all of us.

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Amazingly wise words, PA.

I will take them with me to the store.


Have a great night, both of you.

Bye.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh but you do...

I don't see it - but thank you. Learning to accept graciously. Big big lesson.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bye DD

Enjoy your shopping.

Imagine if we all went shopping together. We'd go out to buy groceries and wine and rent a couple of movies and come back with all the Rafe, Sean, Christian and Colin movies made and an odd array of lingerie and sex toys.

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posted October 31, 2008 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know why - but I just went to people.com - just did - without thinking - and this report is there:
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20236440,00.html

Wow!

Good luck to him.

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