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Ami Anne
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posted December 22, 2013 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BREAKING: Phil Robertson Returning To Duck Dynasty, A&E Says They Have No Plans To Fire Him.

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posted December 22, 2013 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 22, 2013 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


The link
http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/12/29413-ae-lying-to-the-public-about-su spending-phil-robertson/

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posted December 22, 2013 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Node:


I know you are asleep, Node-y. Don't tell on yourself

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posted December 22, 2013 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So the article spends - how many words - saying that, as they first stated, A&E have indefinitely suspended him. No new shows till further notice, though he will get residuals for reruns they have approved, he will get no new pay for "per episode" filming until they make up their mind whether to renew his contract or not.

Anyone wonder what is going on during this distraction? Like, maybe the passage of the new NDAA by both houses?

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posted December 22, 2013 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Hearth and Home as it is more about reality TV,religious beliefs and non political issues.

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posted December 22, 2013 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS
This thread also could have been in DD but since it is AA`s thread, I put it here so she can weigh in to it.
Mods can follow and do whats best as it flows?

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posted December 22, 2013 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A&E will use this to their best advantage.

It is a cruel world out there and these issues will crop up again and again.

CBS has a similar headache and imho handles it swiftly and correctly.

A participant in Big Brother said some ugly pointed rascist things. CBS spoke up immediately and said CBS does not hold the views or condone the participant but did not ban or sensor the individual.

At the beginning of the next program it stated the views of the contestants may not hold the companys policies and views, all watchers view with discretion.

That is a fair and equitable way to handle the views of ones who do not agree with us over issues of any flavor.

If no one is selling hate , religious beliefs etc, use discretion and wise judgement but allow others to have a view .

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posted December 22, 2013 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not to beat a dead horse but Christians like to pick and choose Bible verses that…loosely apply to others but not to themselves. That's the beauty of Christianity, the overwhelming hypocrisy of those who claim to practice it.
~Scary Bible Quote of the Day~

He is just another rabid Christian cherry picker choosing the bits he likes and dumping the rest.

There is a fine line betwixt free speech and hate speech.

Also finding this issue humorous is a sure sign of a person being a hater and a bigot using religion to justify their hate.
Just like a person in the KKK;
where does free speech and hate end?

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posted December 22, 2013 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
So the article spends - how many words - saying that, as they first stated, A&E have indefinitely suspended him. No new shows till further notice, though he will get residuals for reruns they have approved, he will get no new pay for "per episode" filming until they make up their mind whether to renew his contract or not.

Anyone wonder what is going on during this distraction? Like, maybe the passage of the new NDAA by both houses?


Yeah I wondered about that too.

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posted December 23, 2013 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The couple of eps I've seen made me think they were at least scripted a little (as opposed to "real"). And now I'm wondering if this guy is expressing a genuine opinion (and the other controversies) or if he's being shocking on purpose to boost ratings, (just as Miley did recently he's gotten a lot more publicity and people interested by doing this, including people who never even heard of the show). Either one is believable to me. He could've done this at the behest of A&E for this very reason, this entire stunt also scripted to gain more viewers.

Shows do that a lot, too, though sometimes it backfires like when the View recruited Rosie to be offensive enough to draw in viewers but then she went too far so they dropped her but I don't think the show ever fully recovered.

OTOH, maybe he did it for himself. As I expected he's had plenty of better offers and he can also become a best selling author without the work...a ghost writer writes up some drivel that would never sell but then he puts his name on it and it's an instant best seller in which everyone involved profits. That happens quite a bit, too.

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posted December 23, 2013 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Moving to Hearth and Home as it is more about reality TV,religious beliefs and non political issues.


Technically this IS about political issues. The show is just the medium this time and doesn't negate the political aspects of it.

Nevertheless I can understand (if not entirely agree) of moving it to DD while understanding why you moved it here instead.

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posted December 23, 2013 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So some old hillbilly dude is a homophobe? I mean, so what? There are milliions of them out there.

I'll have to read up on the latest, but why is this headlining news? Why is this surprising and such a huge story? Going to have to look up what exactly this guy did.....

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posted December 23, 2013 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sounds like a front page Onion story in the making..

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posted December 23, 2013 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Technically this IS about political issues. The show is just the medium this time and doesn't negate the political aspects of it.

Nevertheless I can understand (if not entirely agree) of moving it to DD while understanding why you moved it here instead.


Seems there is one in DD, here and Aquarius Rising.
Agree or not, it would NOT have been about the political aspects if left in GU.

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posted December 25, 2013 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 30, 2013 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Technically this IS about political issues. The show is just the medium this time and doesn't negate the political aspects of it.

Nevertheless I can understand (if not entirely agree) of moving it to DD while understanding why you moved it here instead.



Exactly. It is about political issues

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posted December 30, 2013 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally, Lexx
Those cute guys can come live next to me anytime! I would invite them over for dinner!

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posted January 02, 2014 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saw this great FB post

Contrary to popular belief, I don't hate anyone who is gay.


God

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posted April 01, 2014 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed, the will of the people spoke (think the title is inaccurate yet this still sums it up best, most others don't really care, and I'd have already forgotten it had this show not been suddenly made a big deal out of on LL due to this very issue):
http://www.queerty.com/they-fought-the-gays- and-the-gays-won-how-the-duck-dynasty-stars-homophobia-destroyed-their-brand-20140331/

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Within weeks, the Duck Dynasty cast were the darlings of the far-right conservative fringe who had paid the show and the family behind it little attention before. Former Vice Presidential candidate turned professional conservative victim Sarah Palin defended Robertson’s words (while later admitting she’d never read the interview), and the GOP decided to make son Willie Robertson an “honored guest” at their response to President Obama’s State Of The Union address. These are the types of people that defiantly rail against gay marriage and LGBT rights even as both gain unprecedented public support. Now, they’ve aligned themselves with Duck Dynasty.

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Ordinarily, a cable reality show premiering to 8.5 million viewers would be reason to celebrate, and in a lot of ways for A&E and the Duck Dynasty crew, it still was. However, that 8.5 million viewers was down a full 28 percent from the previous season opener. That is millions of viewers less than before and millions of dollars lost in future advertising revenue for A&E. Then, the bad news just kept on coming and the ratings slipped to a low of 4.7 million viewers in later episodes. Duck Dynasty was then subjected to yet another negative round of press after a CNN interview meant to promote the season finale. Appearing on CNN’s New Day, Willie Robertson was unrepentant about the controversy and the cycle of bad press repeated itself once again. The season ended with six million viewers, down from the aforementioned 10 million the previous year.

Duck Dynasty is by no means “over.” The show will continue on, the merchandise will sell, and both A&E and the cast members will continue to make millions, but the brand will be forever tainted by Robertson’s words and the tone-deaf alignment with a far right fringe that most moderate Americans take great pains to avoid or ignore completely.

In a world where a Disney channel sitcom introduces lesbian moms and one of the most popular comedies on network television features a gay male couple raising a child, it is clear that the boundaries of what is considered “family friendly” are rapidly expanding to be more inclusive of LGBT people. By embracing homophobia and doubling down on it with the embrace of the conservative right, the father/son duo and most prominent faces of Duck Dynasty destroyed the core of their brand, which was that of a family-friendly reality show.

The millions of viewers who’ve abandoned Duck Dynasty sent a clear and firm message: hate is not a family value. Brands, television networks, and all others who wish to maintain a successful business in 2014, take note: what happened to Duck Dynasty can happen to you. When it comes to the gays: if you can’t say anything nice…well, you know the rest.


Cue standard hypocrisy of calling their boycotts and actions of support "free market at work" now switching to how some thought police are oppressing them (because when they do it it's all fair, when it's done to them it's foul) 5, 4, 3...

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