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soren
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posted January 19, 2017 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry i didnt mean i didnt like any certain race, i think they are all races. delete this cause it was controversial.

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posted January 20, 2017 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are all the same underneath.

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posted January 20, 2017 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.

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posted January 21, 2017 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Culture is where differences arise, but it is to be celebrated.

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posted January 21, 2017 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
actually i notice trends, some of the most popular non-white people surrounded by white people, are half-white.

they look like a regular black or asian person, yet they get more appraise then the rest.

take trevor noah, black talk show host. very popular. many watch him. barack obama, half white.

it's white genetics. there was for the first time, i find this asian guy really funny and i can relate to him. he is doing something really relateable. in the comments i find out he is half white. so that is why.

there is another popular youtube singer, semi-famous, she looks regularily asian. but i really like her and enjoy the music, i find out she is half white as well.

these genes are how well we understand and relate to each other. yes we are the same underneath because we all strive to love and enjoy reality. but still, there is a divide, there is a true difference that is not based on skin colour actually, it's based on recognizing their inner drive/behaviour, and that is what can cause dislike. it has nothing to do with skin colour, that's just a facade. (false wall, primitive idea) it's actually the genetics that people have a problem with.

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posted January 22, 2017 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One day, there will be no differences.

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posted January 22, 2017 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many of us are of mixed races.
I detest the damn forms at the hospital and elsewhere when they do not let me choose more than one race.
I am White/Native American and Black.

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posted January 23, 2017 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I know of a Korean American family furious that they're classified with other "Asian Americans." They define race very differently (race being a subjective concept, and many anthropologists would even say is a social myth with others pointing out you can find more genetic variation within a so-called race than between "different" races). 'Course a lot of that has to do with just how vicious WW2 was in Far East and Southeast Asia (with karmic wounds exchanged between various nations and ethnic groups that have yet to heal, with much brutality exchanged since then as well in the decades that followed), but there's more to it than that.

Speaking of which, I knew a Vietnamese girl who was raised from infancy in Texas by white parents. Ignoring her skin you'd have never guessed where she was from (born in Vietnam) by how she talked, moved, acted.

I've also known people from other nations who become very frustrated when filling out forms in the United States because our definition of race is so different from theirs. I know many will determine these things visually. For example, a friend I had was called Hispanic or even Mexican because of her surname and her skin color, but her accent and behavior was completely assimilated that I just sort of saw her as "a white person with a tan" (more accurately I didn't even think of it and was surprised that she was having problems because others did). And it's kinda funny how many don't realize Cameron Diaz is Hispanic.

Culture is more important than race in common behaviors (and economics and background even more important than culture), but I don't feel like explaining it as it seems so basic (and ditto for how seasons affect about everyone in the world, not just people in the northern regions), and there are also many exceptions regardless of even that. It might be fun to look into how the Scandinanvians changed over time, from the warlike time when they aggressively expanded (and were known to raid and fight during spring and summer while women and slaves tended to crops until their return, and winter was a time for trapping, hunting, and more fishing), and when the eldest sons got the inheritance which made it dangerous to be a surviving elder son to being fairly laid back and restrained today. The conversion of the Scandinavians to Christianity was utterly brutal as well (and that includes Scandinavian Christians brutalizing others who didn't convert), and then there was the Swedish Empire.

Another interesting bit is when expats settle elsewhere will hold onto the old ways while their home nation will evolve much faster, something I can see in my mother's side of the family with its Swedish roots who'd fit in pretty easy with the Swedes a century ago (overlooking the language barrier), but would be seen as savage and boorish today by many modern Swedes. (I could say the same about my father's side of the family that's Scots-Irish.) Even with the change in the Swedes (and much of Europe since the end of the Cold War) I'm surprised anyone would define the white race as being peaceful. World history would be very different (and wouldn't dominate in the North America, and probably not in Europe either) if that were the case.

There has been so much interbreeding, rape, slavery, concubinage, and war crimes over the thousands of years that I doubt there's any "pure race" at all as one might find in say fish or birds that stick to a very specific part of the globe. And it just overlaps over the centuries. A blasian (her father was half-black and half-Native Chilean as well, her mother's ancestry was even more complicated. but then she knew nothing of her father's ancestry other than what I just shared) I know was very beautiful, physically speaking, though she had almost no place she felt welcome in society and that affected her behavior more than her genetics. She hated having to mark her race on forms as well.

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posted January 23, 2017 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well there is nationality (where you are from) and race/ethnicity (genes).

i dont think there is another wrong with labelling race as the genes and not the country. i dont know why it's important, but it does seem important.

although yeah i dk how if they label it in US based off appearance or actually genes. should be genes

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posted January 27, 2017 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Surely this is a bait post!?!?
The level of stereotyping on this page is unreal and bordering on racist. What nonsense!

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posted January 28, 2017 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No. Just because you can't comprehend

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posted January 28, 2017 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do you think when people have indoor pet foxes, the foxes are coded to jump up and dive onto blankets and start digging, smart guy?

It's coded into them from milleniums of coded stimuli response. Our environments entirely shape us and our behaviour. Nice try though, maybe try expanding your mind a bit more next time. Instead of being blind and ignorant.

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posted January 28, 2017 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Being called blind and ignorant by someone who writes bigoted tripe is a compliment!

I'll try and expand my mind with these innovative pearls of wisdom:

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Black people might seem like they like to fight more so than most. But it is not a sign of primitivity

This is why africans are so confrontational, they look and think of you directly, and nothing else.

If you want to get along good with a black person, do not avoid eye contact, do not try to ignore them and leave. If you want to get along, face them head on, push your feelings out. They will recognize this and it will help them feel more at home.



The troubling thing isn't the racist buls*it you spouted, its the fact that no one else challenged it.

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posted January 28, 2017 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
are you black? i guess you are. i didnt think black were really that primitive, but you are showing maybe they are. there is differences in each races behaviour, and it is from how we evolved. i never said any certain race was 'bad' that they are how they are.

Racist quoted: a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another."

If cougars were more aggressive, it's not an insult, it's a fact.

If you think something is innaccurate, feel free to bring it up. I know there is differences in genetics hence why I feel strong relatability to half white people even before i know they are half white, they looked full asian to me or full black then i find out they arent. This isn't racist but a notice of reality. You can ignore reality all you want but in the meantime I'll be furthering understanding.

If something is inaccurate in your opinion feel free to say. Whether black people do enjoy fighting more, which i was saying they found it fun and natural to fight more so than average because they evolved practicing those features, and not out of anger but out of sport and fun.

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posted January 28, 2017 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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are you black? i guess you are. i didnt think black were really that primitive, but you are showing maybe they are. there is differences in each races behaviour, and it is from how we evolved. i never said any certain race was 'bad' that they are how they are.

If cougars were more aggressive, it's not an insult, it's a fact.


Whether black people do enjoy fighting more, which i was saying they found it fun and natural to fight more so than average because they evolved practicing those features, and not out of anger but out of sport and fun.



Ha! This is definitely a bait post! My bad for getting sucked in

Continue trolling Soren....

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posted January 28, 2017 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nice job. you can quote things without saying a reason why. you are so quick to take offense, showing low intelligence.

if you had a COUNTER to anything, you could have said it. if you have no counter, then all you have is anger or lack of understanding. if you can't counter anything, then you let what you see is wrong go on. what is wrong with what i said? why do you have to take it offensive? that is showing a lack of peaceful communion.

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posted January 28, 2017 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i value each race. east asians are said to have the l owest sex drive, and the most physically peaceful. here in canada, do you know how many of the majority (white) get beat up or hurt by native americans (east asian-european mix)? very rarely. their peacefulness from their ancestry is showing up.

if someone has to be quick to take offense, then that's showing a lack of thinking. if you can point out errors, then you are showing you are understanding something i dont, and can teach something. all in all if we can not be open to each other, that is a bigger sign of primitivity. if you can not tell someone your h onest opinion, not a hatred opinion, or an 'i dont like you are the way you are' opinion, but just an honest observation, without having them want to fight you, then that is primitive. if you can simply talk and they can say 'oh i get what you mean. i never saw it like that but yeah i guess it's true" then that is more advanced.

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posted January 28, 2017 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Deliverance:
The troubling thing isn't the racist buls*it you spouted, its the fact that no one else challenged it.


That's because it's soren. Soren operates under this belief that if he FEELS it then it MUST be true no matter what, which is coupled by an especially strong Aquarian stubbornness. To argue him is just to get him to repeat himself over and over again as if he feels that's somehow convincing (probably thinks if no one argues him then they're agreeing). Though as you see, he does have a major ego (which probably is an aspect of his stubbornness).

Soren is constantly spouting crazy and simplistic stuff, though some days he's more lucid than others. I believe soren is literally schizophrenic or something of that nature (as opposed to an attention seeking troll), and as with many who suffer such episodes, it comes and goes (and some poor medication habits may be involved). When I personally replied, I was actually replying to others in this thread rather than soren himself. He's got a few fans, though I can't tell if they're genuinely that gullible or just encouraging him out of some sense of pity.

And what if I did choose to argue him? I could point out the effects of economics and disenfranchisement and systematic oppression has on people of any race, as shown in US and Canadian history, but as he doesn't know about that it doesn't exist for him. I could point out how those who successfully use psychology in marketing and politics don't homogenize into races or gender, but he'd simply say they were idiots (no matter how successful they are). I could describe the incredible violent brutality of white people throughout history, and how the seasons do affect those in India and Africa, and also how most anthropologists and even geneticists disagree with him. Hell, I could spout on several racial issues he brought up, but as he doesn't FEEL it, then it doesn't matter, and he'd just repeat himself until he thought no one dared challenged his views anymore. So there's no point, and I think most people understand soren is...soren.

That said, I personally think soren crossed a line with this (both as a personal attack, and pretty much a racist attack to boot which violates the supposed spirit of his own thread, and note that Deliverance has shown contempt for the message soren shares here, while soren has shown contempt for Deliverance as a person):

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are you black? i guess you are. i didnt think black were really that primitive, but you are showing maybe they are

If I were a mod of this forum I'd shut this thread down. It's not like soren is the brilliant wise man he thinks he is anyway, nor that this thread promotes the racial healing or elevation of human consciousness he seems to think it does, and maybe it's a mistake to tolerate him when he gets especially stupid, as he has in this thread.

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posted January 29, 2017 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
where did i be racist?

pixie it's just sad and unfortunate that people can misunderstand truth so much. not truth about my info, but of judge of characters.

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posted January 29, 2017 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm...I really don't like interacting with you, soren. Nevertheless, you did make a fair point and so feel obligated to.

What I perceived as racist (besides your silly stereotypes that I've chosen to overlook) is that you assumed Deliverance is black to have taken offense (and thus you brought race into it), and then your "they are" as if blacks are a homogenized group with little in the way of individuality. But going by how you're explaining "race" and behavior I can see how it's not from your perspective. (Even so, it's still a personal attack on her, whereas she was offended by your message for what I consider perfectly rational reasons, she attacked the message, you attacked the person, in part by incorporating race in your attack on her.)

And btw, even "positive racism" can be bad. For example, Asian Americans are typically seen as naturally smart and hard workers, which means many are skipped over from getting the help and individualized attention they may need in schooling and training, and also more ashamed to ask for help. More on that:
http://www.education.com/reference/article/unraveling-minority-myth-asian-students/

Technically, even "positive racial views" for blacks can be harmful when it emphasizes physical and aggressive features as in American consciousness it tends to assume a lack intellectual worth (as it's believed you can't be both physically and mentally gifted). That adversely affects a friend of mine who happens to be black, and brilliant (and also mousy, not aggressive as you paint blacks to be) in more ways than one, and even nearly got me kicked out of a place I lived because no one believed she was as good with computers as I said she was and thus assumed more sinister purposes for her presence (and assumed I was working with her for criminal purposes).

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posted January 29, 2017 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well i had good intentions in mind when i said the things about black, i think they have pretty good personalities. actually i was offended by deliverance to try to turn my post around to make it look like the OP was intended to hurt people. and discredit it altogether.

and when i asked if they were black, it had to do with if they should truly be getting mad or not. i want to know a black person's perspective. like a cougar wouldnt care if you called it a strong aggressive thing, it would probably enjoy it cause it's true. if she's not black then it probably goes along the lines of situations i heard where people get annoyed that you are defending them when they dont even care about it themselves.

that was why i was asking.

the biggest thing to take away from this post, was to take most of the descriptions lightly, but more so think when you look at a black person, or whatever race, just for example, even white, you are looking at a person who's ancestors evolved for thousands and thousands of years in a set environment (not always, obviously). so you are looking at someone who lived with snow for thousands of years, and that reflects in their behaviour.

really i felt deliverance had attacked, although felt to prideful i suppose to try to actually argue. when i should just be 'wrong'.

and for the chance that black people are aggressive, i was defending them saying it is not in a primtive way like many racists would support. i was in fact saying it's just like how whites might be good at building lumber houses. it's just something they *maybe* did and so they still carry on those traits. i did not mean it offenseively, someone once said since I told them i was from an ancestry where they faught and were huge, he said that was why i was bigger than him, and i didnt care.

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posted January 29, 2017 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and maybe i am racist. out of all the people on this site losing their temper very easily and insulting people, it's often black people.

while i also do notice some of the people who have these amazing potent and exciting personalities on this site; are also people who are black.

so i might think they lack some thinking skills that white people possess. if i can't be open about my honest feelings, then how am i ever going to move forward.

humans practice rascism on animals like slugs. we think we are smarter than them, but that doesn't mean that we do not like them or think they deserve any less than what they have.

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posted January 29, 2017 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i advised my personal trainer about how to phrase this post or whether it's fine cause it's not insultive

and yes i do think it is better to be honest with your feelings.

if black people thought people were 'know it alls' and treated black people like they were dumb, and they told me, i would change that because they made me aware of it. since i have the ability to adapt. if they never told me, i'd never change. it's better to be open and honest

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posted January 31, 2017 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's racist, because you make your determinations based on skin color.

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posted January 31, 2017 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no, there is a musician who i always thought had amazing lyrics, he looks really DARK black, and i thought he was highly intelligent.

i'm not that simple minded, i am looking beyond skin colour to personality, and bevahiour, as intelligent and complex as it sounds, i am doing that.

basing it on that, and not skin colour.

it just so happens that different behaviours of certain races have differing skin colours of the one i am talking about their behaviour.

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