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Lexxigramer
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posted August 28, 2022 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http ://iai.tv/articles/schopenhauer-vs-nietzsche-the-meaning-of-suffering-auid-1801#:~:text=Suffering%20is%20not%20just%20something,the%20destruction%20of%20the%20present

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To live is to suffer,
to survive is to find some meaning
in the suffering.” ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

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posted August 28, 2022 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The thought of suicide
is a great consolation:
by means of it
one gets through
many a dark night.💙😎

― Nietzsche

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Lexxigramer
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posted August 28, 2022 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Suffering is not just something
that happens to us – it is bound
up in who we are as creatures
that grow and change: “
all becoming and growing,”
Nietzsche wrote, “
all that guarantees the future,
postulates pain.” To take joy
in the future means willing
the destruction of the present.

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Randall
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posted August 29, 2022 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed.

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Lexxigramer
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posted August 29, 2022 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Agreed.

Thank you Randall😎
Looking at it all from those perspectives definitely helps me to
get through or
better cope with and accept
that is
just how it all is
and and I just keep holding because
from moment to moment things change;
sometimes good sometimes bad and
sometimes same;
but nothing lasts forever in a
static state of being;
accepting changes is necessary to
our existences and one must accept
a good rule for life and its many
ups and downs is one must learn
to adapt because generally one is
Left with the only option,
and that is to die😢
Accepting changes whether good or
bad has and still does help me to
endure the many traumas of
my life to date💙😎
Live
Adapt
Or
Die
I choose to adapt and that means
embracing the suffering😎

I have had so many traumas and
hardships in my over 67 and 1/2 years
to date I am at times surprised that
I have come this far to date😳👽😎

Do I like the bad things that have hit me repeatedly
and are ongoing being too that they are
only different and new experiences ⁉️
Much in life is good but that
unpleasant or terrible experiences are
also worthy things in their own right😎
For example;
If I had not been hit by a car and died
for a few minutes,
would I have missed out on a rather
fascinating and yes enlightening
experience⁉️
Indeed I would have missed out on that👽
I can relate to others who have been
through such and even to my sister
who was killed in a
very similar pedestrian
accident😢💙
These experiences increase our compassion
and deepen our appreciation for life no
matter the obstacles and the many
challenges and changes😎
Here some 50 ,years after I was badly
injured
in that accident;
I have a partially paralyzed right thigh
with deformed muscles👽
I however over ame that's and was for
a time a decade later;
a professional arm wrestler and
power lifter😎
I over came starting life out with
braces for my club feet and deformed legs
and scoliosis and more issues to do
with my heart and eyesight and the
list goes on and on😳
But all that taught me more much
more than if I had been born
totally perfect😳💙
Even now with the 5 rare DES induced
cancers I am fighting so that I can
live much longer;
I have and am gaining new insight
to many aspects of my existence
to date😎
All in all the bad things are usually
very very interesting and worth
appreciating the nuances and dynamics
they dump on one's life😎
I hope that I am making sense here😳😎
Much to ponder in life and
choices
Live
Adapt
Or die

I choose to adapt to whatever comes
my way
and
to continue to love the best that I can
no matter what happens😎💙


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posted August 29, 2022 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kindly pardon any strange
autofills or typos as usual👽

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posted August 30, 2022 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Life is definitely suffering.

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posted August 30, 2022 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I do this, I won't get up at all.
It reminds me of that one author
whose book I read, which was along
the same lines, though. Something
about gratitude lists, and being
grateful for everything, except
one thing: her son's death.
She could never be grateful for that.

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posted August 31, 2022 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Life is definitely suffering.

Yes indeed it is💙
That is why I choose to adapt
instead of giving up and dying or
committing suicide 💙
People on inlouding most of my
doctors to date;
have said if they were in my shoes
they would have killed themselves
years or even decades ago👽😳
It saddens me that so many folks
choose to give up and even kill
themselves whilst the choice
to adapt still exists😳😢
I think for many folks it is their
psychological woes that cause to them
to give up on life and not the physical limitations👽😳😢
Poverty and being homeless and also being
disabled all at the same time
would be a serious factor to
giving up on life
and that aspect I can relate to
because I am far too physically
wrecked to ever live on the.
streets again😢
I did it when still young and
not disabled, but now it would
be impossible😳😢
Life is not easy
never has been for me😢👽😳

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posted August 31, 2022 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
If I do this, I won't get up at all.
That is so
far beyond sad teasel 😭
I feel that way too
but never
would I chose to actually not
get up
as long as I am physically
able to do so
even though
it means literally crawling
on hands and knees to go to
the bathroom so I do not go
in my adult diapers or worse😳
Same for getting in and out of
my house to go to doctors and
chemotherapy and such😳
I often must crawl up and down
steps even in rain and snow
and below freezing outside👽😢
These days on my worse times,
which since doing chemotherapy
These very bad times have become
far too frequent and now it
too then takes like 10 minutes
to struggle to get in the car
only 15 fet away from house door😳😢
and then the medical folks
must come out with a chair
to take me in because
I am unable to walk even with
walkers much these days😢

So I am curious here👽😳
Are you implying that
I should give up⁉️
Is your point of view
psychological and emotional
or are you unable to walk or
in much
physical pain⁉️😢

quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
reminds me of that one author
whose book I read, which was along
the same lines, though. Something
about gratitude
lists, and being grateful for
everything, except one thing:
her son's death.
She could never be grateful
for that.


Oh to be clear here about
being grateful😳👽

I am NOT ever grateful
for all the bad things I have
endured and that I continue
to endure in my over
67 years to date 😳👽
I however acknowledge it that
those things have shaped who I am
and whilst it has all made me so
very much weaker in too many
physical ways;
It all has also made me much much
stronger
emotionally and
psychologically💙😎
It had to make me stronger
or I would be dead already
by my own hand👽
I have had to adapt to
everything bad in my life and accept
that this is just how it is and
I can kill myself if the need arises
that it becomes the rational choice
over living💙
Dear sweet teasel😢💙
I sadly do not know how to help
you feel that life is worth living
whilst you still have that
option to live
Very sad

Please kindly pardon any typos
and or weird autofills as usual
or point them out so that
I may fix them 👽

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posted September 26, 2022 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Posting some of my favorites that do not involve pessimism 😎

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A room without books
is like a body without a soul.
-Marcus Tullius Cicero,
statesman, orator, writer
(106-43 BCE)
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posted October 20, 2022 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~The present time is theirs,
but the future is mine.
~Nikola Tesla
~There is no box.~H♥
~Balance is not letting anyone
love you less than you
love yourself.~Felipe
~I remember, therefore
I am immortal~LEXX
~It is far better to regret
wrong paths taken than to
regret the paths not
tried~Giselle
}><}}}(*>~

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A room without books
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-Marcus Tullius Cicero,
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posted November 15, 2022 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am suddenly reminded of this...barely over a minute of speaking:
http://youtu.be/za4mN7YL1fA?t=39


For a more family friendly version, see the ST:NG episode Masterpiece Society. While I'd argue some points brought up (I won't as it's a derail) and point out that some of the same arguments made against them could be made against Data, I could see that having formed a perfect society that began stagnating rather than advancing so that despite all the genetic engineering for intelligence, talent, and all that, they were still centuries behind the Federation. Because they didn't HAVE to improve, so it happened so much slower at best.

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