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Ami Anne
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posted October 05, 2013 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He does research in chemistry.

Is it "dark" kind of research? I would be interested to know what he researches.

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posted October 05, 2013 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrologic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He works in medicinal chemistry. He will eventually be working with nanotechnology for medicinal purposes

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posted November 06, 2013 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for this post, Ami Anne.
In hindsight, it explains stuff.

I once knew someone who had mars square moon, pluto conjunct saturn and algol conjunct mars.

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posted November 07, 2013 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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Ami Anne
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posted November 07, 2013 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astrologic:
He works in medicinal chemistry. He will eventually be working with nanotechnology for medicinal purposes


Wow What a fascinating group of people( and spouses) LL has!

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posted November 07, 2013 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Randall! Nice to meet you!

I just love reading those very serious conversations about broken hearts or long lost dreams, and you popping up with a "Welcome!" at the most unexpected times ^^
Makes me smile every time

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posted November 08, 2013 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dadoo:
Thank you, Randall! Nice to meet you!

I just love reading those very serious conversations about broken hearts or long lost dreams, and you popping up with a "Welcome!" at the most unexpected times ^^
Makes me smile every time


LOL Randall is so cute!

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posted November 08, 2013 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dadoo:
Thank you for this post, Ami Anne.
In hindsight, it explains stuff.

I once knew someone who had mars square moon, pluto conjunct saturn and algol conjunct mars.



Wow
What a chart. Tell me more? What was the ASC? Did he have a full 5th House? What was the Mars?

You have a very sweet energy. I bet you and I have a Moon or Sun conjunct. I have a Gemini Sun at 28

Gem Mer 21

Gem Venus 8

Cancer Moon 9

Libra ASC 12

I bet you conjunct one of these

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posted November 08, 2013 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually got confused between several charts and her Algol is conjunct Taurus rising, not mars. Mars and venus conjunct in Leo, both square moon in Scorpio. Fifth house empty.
Definitely not your ordinary villain. Funny you assume it was a man... it was a woman. Though I tend to remember her as a weapon of mass destruction lol.
I keep try to come up with a sentence that would define her, let's see...
Extremely smart. Flawless social image: she was your perfect neighbor, your perfect daughter, your perfect employee. Highly manipulative: she could have almost anyone do almost anything. No empathy whatsoever, no interest in anyone but herself. And a tendency to indulge in food, drink, sex. Very violent with sudden outbursts of rage. Very arrogant under a humble mask.


The only conjunction I can see between us from what you tell me is your Venus with my Gemini rising at 10° ^^
Apart from that I have Sun in Pisces at 05°, Mercury in Aqua at 10°, Moon in Leo at 12° and Venus in Aries at 01°

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posted November 08, 2013 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dadoo:
I actually got confused between several charts and her Algol is conjunct Taurus rising, not mars. Mars and venus conjunct in Leo, both square moon in Scorpio. Fifth house empty.
Definitely not your ordinary villain. Funny you assume it was a man... it was a woman. Though I tend to remember her as a weapon of mass destruction lol.
I keep try to come up with a sentence that would define her, let's see...
Extremely smart. Flawless social image: she was your perfect neighbor, your perfect daughter, your perfect employee. Highly manipulative: she could have almost anyone do almost anything. No empathy whatsoever, no interest in anyone but herself. And a tendency to indulge in food, drink, sex. Very violent with sudden outbursts of rage. Very arrogant under a humble mask.


The only conjunction I can see between us from what you tell me is your Venus with my Gemini rising at 10° ^^
Apart from that I have Sun in Pisces at 05°, Mercury in Aqua at 10°, Moon in Leo at 12° and Venus in Aries at 01°



Wow

Your Merc trines my ASC( 2 degrees)

You know what? I bet it is Ceres. Where is yours. I have to find out where mine is.

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posted November 08, 2013 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Ceres is conjunct my Venus in Aries (1°)
I don't know what Ceres stands for, though

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posted November 26, 2013 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before you call Algol abusive you might want to read this http://www.skyscript.co.uk/algol.html

. Ami might be interested to know that Israel has Algol conj Sun and that as many Algol "natives" have been murdered as have done harm to others. The keyword is intensity...

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posted November 26, 2013 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Likewise, Sat/pluto bestows determination, people who will not be pushed around, often with tunnel vision where their goals are concerned.. but abusers? Whole groups of people born in 1915/6, '46/7 and 82/3 have this aspect, odds are many in aspect to personal planets. Most of them were likely not abusive @ all but lived through times when reliance on their personal power was more or less essential to survival

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posted November 28, 2013 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You never stop, Cata

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posted November 28, 2013 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dadoo:
My Ceres is conjunct my Venus in Aries (1°)
I don't know what Ceres stands for, though

ceres is wonderful. It is unconditional love! When you love, you will do so unconditionally. Very nice!

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posted November 28, 2013 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami if you took a little time to absorb what you read you would see that what you assume is not always true.
Algol can be a powerful force for good.

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posted November 28, 2013 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would respectfully request, Ami, that you not respond to posts I make unless you read them properly before composing your "comeback". As apparently you did not bother here^

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posted November 28, 2013 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
ceres is wonderful. It is unconditional love! When you love, you will do so unconditionally. Very nice!

It is very true!
It is not a trait that has brought me much happiness so far, though, but it's never too late

Oh, by the way, Ami, have you ever encountered Algol conjunct Child?

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posted November 28, 2013 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Algol conj Child would be terrible, I think. Who has that?

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posted November 29, 2013 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The last few paragraphs of this article also illustrate how Algol can be an influence for good in people's lives, as does the one I posted earlier
http://www.ye-stars.com/oldalgol.htm

There is also plenty of research.thru history that bscks up Algol's reputation, but there were plenty of other astrological influences also involved in those events.

Calling a placement "horrible" or "terrible" is to ignore the role of free will and the many different manifestations possible, and also the rest of the chart's influence on how it may be experienced.

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Algol conj child might indicate someone who is very active in working to prevent child abuse, for instance...

On the personal charts of ordinary people, it can manifest in positive and interesting ways. A young couple who asked for an electional chart for their wedding were not fazed when I told them they had chosen a day with a Sun-Hades conjunction on Algol, and described the star. They told me it fit very well - they were devoting all their spare time to the nuclear freeze movement! Carl Sagan, another nuclear freeze activist, has Algol rising...

..These examples demonstrate that having Algol represented on a chart does not necessarily mean that you will inflict, or be the victim of, horror and mayhem...but that you will be aware of the depths of suffering that can occur, whether through human depravity or "Acts of God"; and you will not be able to ignore suffering and horror, or brush it aside; your life path will require that you come to terms with that level of experience. A jounalist might be assigned to cover tragedies, while a clergyman might be called upon to comfort the victims and their families. A black child might hear of the horrors of slavery, and a Jewish child might grow up with the awareness that his grandparents perished in the Holocaust. A police officer might assist victims of a natural disaster, or a medical student be assigned to work in a trauma center (the medical term for the study of pain is "Algolology"!). The Algol placement on a chart insists upon a confrontation and assimilation of these harsh aspects of human experience in this lifetime. The polarities of bigotry or tolerance, violence or kindness, cruelty or compassion, war or peace are issues that are unavoidable and must be dealt with under Medusa. http://www.ye-stars.com/oldalgol.htm again

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posted November 29, 2013 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Algol conj Child would be terrible, I think. Who has that?

I do...
Do you think it would be the sign of a victim or an aggressor?
I definitely have a very strong sense of responsibility towards children. Probably because I feel I lacked that in some way myself when I was a child.

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posted November 29, 2013 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Dadoo

How close is it? Does it touch any other planets? if so, what and how close?

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posted November 29, 2013 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My guess, Dadoo, was that you had someone who did violence against you as the Child asteroid is one's inner child.

I would guess it was bad. Was it?

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posted November 29, 2013 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow Dadoo
How close is it? Does it touch any other planets? if so, what and how close?

It's almost exact.
It trines my mars (1°) and is sextile my Jupiter (1°).

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My guess, Dadoo, was that you had someone who did violence against you as the Child asteroid is one's inner child.
I would guess it was bad. Was it?

There wasn't a specific abuser, no.
It was more like the whole setting was violent.
Not only violent people in general, at home or at school, but the situations too (diseases, abandonments, deaths...)
Looking back, it's evident a child shouldn't have to grow up in such conditions. It was bad, yes. I have the rough skin of the survivor ^^

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