posted September 12, 2013 09:40 AM            

1, Saturn conjunct the Sun–degrees are very important here. An exact conjunction is very much harder than a 5 degree conjunction. One’s father may have been very demeaning. The person may feel as if he never measures up because he could never measure up to his father. One may struggle to feel as if he is good enough to make it in a career or in soceity.

2. Moon conjunct Saturn–The above situation exists except it is with the mother. This aspect hits one’s heart more than one’s career. One feels a generalized sense of unworthiness. It goes deep into the core of the person.

3. Neptune in the 12th House–This is a classic aspect for depression.

4. Moon in the 12th House–One feels as if one cannot express one’s emotions. It is like a tongue tied of the heart. This can lead to depression because the person has so many emotions( as we all do) but he feels as if they are locked within a prison inside him and he can’t get to them to let them out.

5. Mars in the 12th house-Mars in the 12th house makes for a person who is afraid to act. He is afraid he will look stupid and then be humiliated. Hence, he keeps his passions pent up. Passions cannot stay pent up forever. He,often, foes into a depression from the sheer pain of wanting to access his passions( as we all do) but not knowing how.

6. Saturn in the 12th house–I call this placement “The Child who Sits on the Sidelines but Wants to Enter the Group so badly but is afraid of humiliation” Saturn in the 12th feels left out. He feels that he does not fit in any group. He feels that other people are doing it to him( as we all do when we have certain Astrological aspects such as this) However, he is imprinting himself on the world and it responds in kind. However, all this doesn’t matter because he feels left out and this can lead to depression.

7.Chiron conjunct the ASC—This is severe bullying which can make a lifelong imprint on a person and lead to depression.

8. Chiron in the 10th House–This person feels as if he does not fit into society. He sees other people get ahead but feels like he can’t . He feels cursed in a sense. Usually, his father took away his confidence and hence, he feels he can never overcome this and be a success.

9. Mercury conjunct Uranus–This makes the mind race like one is on the Indy 500. It is not an easy aspect. It makes for brilliance but brilliance has a down side and this is madness. This aspect wreaks havoc with the gentle Mercury, which is one’s mind. It sends it buzzing. The native may feel as if he dances to the beat of a different tune. This can be scary and isolating and can lead to depression.

10. Mercury Square Uranus–the above situation occurs. However, it may feel even more locked in as the native cannot figure out how to stop his racing mind. These two aspects are very hard and my heart goes out to people with them.

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posted September 16, 2013 03:56 PM            

I have Chiron conjunct ASC and I have always sort of been a sort of victim in my early life and quite depressed.

posted September 16, 2013 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by m.blade:
Hi Ami, I was wondering, what aspects and placements could kind of counteract these sorts of placements?

I have Chiron conjunct ASC and I have always sort of been a sort of victim in my early life and quite depressed.

However, I am usually quite an optimistic person, only ever since last year, I've matured ALOT and I have had more confidence in myself. What aspects and transits could provide a lighter side to some of these dark aspects? Ty

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Great question, Mblade

I don't really work with transits but I think that Jupiter touching your ASC would be a good one.

I look at the chart as one trying to find one's strengths to counteract the hard parts.

For you, you have many strengths as I remember

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posted September 16, 2013 04:46 PM            

This makes one an extrovert.

I would say Jupiter conj any personal part of the chart--ASC, Moon, NC or Sun

Fire planets help to give confidence too.

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posted September 16, 2013 04:47 PM            

look at this, Mblade and see what you think.

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posted September 17, 2013 10:51 AM            

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Originally posted by m.blade:
Most of my planets are in my upper half, my 9th is occupied by mercury, moon, nn and venus, I have moon in leo and jupiter is in my fifth

People say I'm able to cheer them up if they are feeling very upset and if things aren't going for them

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Those are gifts, Friend!

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posted September 18, 2013 04:31 AM            

My son's girl friend grew up with a mother who is bipolar. She has Dejanira conjunct Moon - a likely indicator of depression, would you say? She also has Sun in the 12th, which I believe could mean an absent or estranged father, which was the case for her.

posted September 18, 2013 09:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Hi Ami Anne,

My son's girl friend grew up with a mother who is bipolar. She has Dejanira conjunct Moon - a likely indicator of depression, would you say? She also has Sun in the 12th, which I believe could mean an absent or estranged father, which was the case for her.

Would you mind taking a look at her chart?

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Wow Moon conj Deja again. That aspect makes me cringe every time I see it.

Sure, I would be happy to look at her chart.

You can put it on here. Ask any specific questions you have.

You may want to check out the asteroid Maniac, too.

One of my clients with bi-polar had it in a prominent place.

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posted September 18, 2013 10:43 AM            

Here it is and shows a very difficult life. I added Maniac, Lucifer and Angel and found to my surprise that Lucifer was exactly conjunct Maniac in the 1st house. Would you know what that indicates? Could she be someone who sabotages herself or people who get close to her?

There are other difficult aspects such as Saturn in 12th conj Asc. Mars, Sun and Venus in the 12th as well.
The sabian for her Saturn is :'A squirrel hiding for hunters', a description of being victimised.

Pluto and NN at MC show she wants to have an impact on the world and be 'seen'. Which could be a negative thing in her case.

Would appreciate your views on the chart.

posted September 18, 2013 11:15 AM            

Does she have some kind of tooth or bone "deformity"

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posted September 18, 2013 11:18 AM            

Is she abusive in kind of a gleeful, screw you way lol

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posted September 18, 2013 12:31 PM            

I am thinking we are missing a crucial asteroid here but I don't know which one.

You could check Medea

let me know the number too, if you could

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posted September 18, 2013 12:52 PM            

I added these to the chart above. Medea is quincunx her NN exact.

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