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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Whoooooaa, you say. Are you gonna tell me you can see a victim from the charts? I think you can see everything from the charts. I don’t know all about the victim profile but I can impart some information I think you will find interesting. Again, my source of information is the charts I do.1. A Weak Mars–Cancer and Libra are the two weakest Mars. They are in the Fall and the Detriment, respectively. A planet in these positions is like a runner with a limp. He may reach the goal post eventually but he will always run a little slow and a a little funky. As a Cancer Mars, I struggle with taking direct action such as screaming bloody murder when someone violates me. I hem and haw and feel GUILTY rather than angry. Guilt is the keyword for a Cancer Mars.
For the Libra Mars, indecision is the key word. Don’t ask them to make the simplest decision. You choose the restaurant and the movie unless you want painfully agonizing event.
For both of these Mars, they are weak for different reasons. A weak Mars is more likely to take abuse without fighting back.
2. A Weak Pluto
Pluto is primal power. Pluto is a wild animal. You KNOW what an animal does if you violate it. Picture a mother bear with cubs. A strong Pluto will not be a victim. By strong, we could mean a number of things. Pluto could have good aspects such as trines. Pluto could be conjunct the ASC or MC which makes for mega power. An strong Pluto would not be a victim.
However, if we have Pluto pushed down, we could have a victim on our hands. A weak Pluto could be Pluto conjunct the DSC. What touches the DSC, we cast off in and find in a partner. Hence, this person may cast off her own primal power and look for a tiger in the partner. The problem is that casting off one’s primal power can result in a not so nice person picking it up and hitting you over the head with it.
Pluto can be weak from other factors, too. Pluto conjunct Saturn is a person who is obsessed with finding his personal power. Hence, he does not have it, by definition. In time, this person should access it, as Saturn will reward hard work. However, in the meantime, this person could be taken advantage of .
Pluto conjunct Chiron would be a weakened Pluto . Chiron infuses pain in to what it touches.
I can’t go over all the combinations and permutations but I hope you get the idea.
3. The Child Asteroid
The Child Asteroid shows your childhood. It is a simple way to see how your inner child felt. We carry our inner child with us throughout life. If the Child Asteroid has Dejanira conjunct it, as I do, the person will be abused. I have seen that in all charts I have done.
One’s background sets one up to be a victim. Most victims were victimized in childhood. Power is very scary when you are abused. It could get you hurt so you surrender it. The problem is that most people who surrender it never take it back. Change is very hard, even positive change.
4. The Dejanira Asteroid
Dejanira is the classic victim asteroid. I picture her being attacked and allowing herself to be raped. It is a sad picture but one can give up all hope including the hope to fight back. That is the essence of a victim– utter hopelessness.
Dejanira conjunct the Child Asteroid is another sign of a victim. Dejanira conjunct the Moon is much worse. It is one of the hardest aspects in all of Astrology imo
This person has always been sexually abused in all the charts I have ever done. This person usually becomes a Borderline due to the abuse which fractured the psyche– very, very sad.
5 .A Full 7th House
This is a classic Co-Dependency aspect. The reason is that the 7th house is “the other”. Hence, if one has many personal planets here, one is focused on “the other”.
6. Cancer or Pisces Moons
These Moons are very sensitive. They feel a great deal of empathy. They hate to hurt the feelings of others. Hence, they may allow themselves to be hurt. Pisces Moons would be more so than Cancer Moons. Cancer Moon is in it’s Home, so it has an inherent strength from that.
7. A Full 6th House
This person could be taken advantage of because he is very service oriented. This is the house of the nurse. You can see how tireless and selfless most nurses are.
8. 12th House Planets
I hate to say it this way but anything bad in the chart can be linked to 12th House planets. I like to talk straight so people can really learn Astrology without having to strain the mush from the meat. Having said that, 12th House planets are simply hard. If one has to walk through waist high mud to get home, it is hard. If you grew up with snow, you know what it is like to walk in snow drifts. This can be likened to 12th house planets
If love comes easily to a 7th house Venus, it comes hard to a 12th House Venus.
If emotional expression comes easily to a 3rd House Mercury, it comes hard to a 12th House Mercury.
If being a rebellious kink ball comes easily to a 1st house Uranus, it comes with shame and angst to a 12th House Uranus.
If being a strong and assertive leader comes easily to a 1st house Pluto, it comes very hard to a 12th house Pluto who may take his primal passions and put them into a double life.
I hope you can see that 12th House planets provide the challenge that links them with the phrase , “Be a Saint or a Sinner”. They must find a spiritual solution to their every day pain. If not, they will find a dark one. The 12th House is the House of Addictions and Insanity, as you know.
So, about 12th planets, I have cap jupiter (r) there conjunct sag neptune (AP)and can't identify with this bad aspects...or can't see them?
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