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Ami Anne
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posted October 30, 2013 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Narcissism


People see the Narcissist as an annoying bag of wind, promoting himself until people want to throw a hammer at his head. People want to take him down a peg. It is a natural urge that rises up in people. The Narcissist is not what he appears to be. His outer mask is the opposite of his inner state. His inner state is very small. His outer mask is very big. It is like cotton candy–almost all air. If you ever got a huge cotton candy and saw it come down to two tablespoons of sugar, you know what I mean.

True self esteem is quiet. The Narcissist makes all sorts of noise. True self esteem feels safe to other people. The Narcissist seems like a threat. The Narcissist can be known by feel, more than by one’s intellect. If something feels bad, it probably is.

What is the remedy for Narcissism? It is to find true self esteem. I think the only real, true self esteem is found in God. I know people with good self esteem who do not have God. They had good things in this world. I know many of them. However, this world fails everyone. Everyone ages and everyone dies. Hence, even for people with the best self esteem, they will lose all, eventually.

If you have to deal with a Narcissist, there are a few things to remember. If he is a run of the mill Narcissist, then help him to feel better about himself by paying attention to him. Give him love, if you can. We all need it, especially the Narcissist. He may even feel so comfortable around you that he will let down his mask, a bit. However, if it is a Malignant Narcissist and he/she has you in his cross hairs, then you need to act proactively. If the person will not stop and desist, you need to take off her mask. You need to expose the true person for who she is. It is like the scene in the Wizard of Oz when Dorothy pulls back the curtain. If you expose her, she will go away. It is like water to the Wicked Witch of the West.

We all have Narcissism. We need Narcissism. For the person who has none, he is not a person, at all, but an empty shell. For the person who has too much, he is a bag of wind.. Healthy Narcissism is the key. This is knowing who you are and who you are not. It is being honest with yourself–flaws and good points. It is humility, in a word.

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Randall
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posted August 07, 2014 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 08, 2014 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharon_1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami Anne
What exact aspects or placements have you noticed in the charts of people with narcissism? I have seen adverse aspects between the sun, jupiter and saturn with the moon in a cold placement. I think also that these people are empty inside and try to fill the gap.

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posted August 08, 2014 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great question, S. I will be back xx

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posted February 15, 2015 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 18, 2015 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sharon_1977:
Hi Ami Anne
What exact aspects or placements have you noticed in the charts of people with narcissism? I have seen adverse aspects between the sun, jupiter and saturn with the moon in a cold placement. I think also that these people are empty inside and try to fill the gap.

Sharon



Just saw this lol

Well, narc. is a complex, complex trait. First of all, I would say the Merc/Sun combust and a close combust.

The person must be very self centered. That is a given and a basis.

After that, there can be variations. Jupiter and the Moon come into play because these make up conscience and empathy.

The Narc has low empathy.

I should write a new article because I am always learning the more I do charts.

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posted February 19, 2015 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say the narc has no empathy.

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posted February 19, 2015 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I would say the narc has no empathy.

YES, Randall. This would be the Mal Narc, for sure. The others may have varying degrees of it. I think it is very degree dependent, from what I have seen.

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posted February 20, 2015 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Understood. No empathy would also be a sociopath.

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posted February 20, 2015 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Understood. No empathy would also be a sociopath.


No empathy DEFINES a sociopath. With the Narcs, a Mal Narc is at the end of the spectrum and has no empathy but does have shame( excessive shame) so that keeps them from doing what the sociopath will do because he has NO shame.

Hence, he is much more dangerous.


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posted February 20, 2015 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall

I had to learn all this in order to survive

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posted February 23, 2015 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharon_1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ami Anne

I would also add that there is a whole spectrum off of narc, like histrionic. I can spot the histrionics a mile away and avoid them like the plague. I'm very interested in all this With my Pisces moon, I can sense when things are not right with people before it's seen by others and then I have a look to see what's up in their chart (if I can get a D.O.B). Any info that you have or get I'd be very interested in reading it.

All the best,
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posted February 23, 2015 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sharon_1977:
Thanks Ami Anne

I would also add that there is a whole spectrum off of narc, like histrionic. I can spot the histrionics a mile away and avoid them like the plague. I'm very interested in all this With my Pisces moon, I can sense when things are not right with people before it's seen by others and then I have a look to see what's up in their chart (if I can get a D.O.B). Any info that you have or get I'd be very interested in reading it.

All the best,
Sharon


Thanks Sharon!

I will see what I have. I should write more because I am always learning because I have to deal with these people

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Ah, makes sense about shame.

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