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Ami Anne
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posted January 12, 2014 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron EXPLODES Relationships—–BOOM

I have had another Chiron relationship fail. I told this person that we have Saturn conjunct Chiron. I told him that we would probably get into a fight over something silly from which we would break apart and not be able to get back. Sure enough, that exact thing happened. I have noticed that Chiron in synastry seems to follow a strange course like a Mobius strip. I will tell you what happens and why, in my opinion. I will give examples from my own life. Please add your own.

Chiron conjunct Venus

I had this with an Aries female. She and I got very close, very fast. We felt we had found our best friend, as is typical in Chiron relationships. In fact, this is one of the classic traits of a Chiron relationship. You feel you have found your best friend or soul mate. She and I felt as if we were long lost best friends. We shared many deep and intimate things. One day, we had a strange misunderstanding. She wanted space, which was fine. However, I thought she did something to diss me and I told her. She thought I would not give her space. I tried to explain that it had nothing to do with space but I felt she dissed me.

Another trait that is classic for Chiron relationships is that there is really no bad guy. The relationship just seems to explode out of nowhere. It seems to be based on the internal pain of both people. At the end, there is no good guy or bad guy. There is just ashes and some strange misunderstanding between the two. For me, I tried to get back the relationship but she seemed to see me as a person I was not. This is another hallmark of the Chiron relationship. After it ends, one person will not be able to see the other clearly. It seems as what was beautiful turned equally ugly.Now, after many years, we are tentative friends. We never talked about it but kind of touched noses as two puppies do.

Chiron conjunct Mars

I had this with a male platonic friend who was gay. We got very close very fast. Again, it felt like such a comfortable best friends relationship. We had an exact Moon trine Moon. This is the single most simpatico aspect in all of Astrology, in my opinion. It feels warm and wonderful. I really adored him. We really touched hearts very deeply. He knew I was a Born Again Christian. We do not believe a person is born a homosexual. We believe it is a choice. He and I never talked about it. Quite frankly, I don’t care about a person’s sexuality. I try to love people who come into my life. I am not the judge of anyone. In actuality, I forget about a person’s sexuality, race etc. I see a heart and in this case, I connected with a heart. One day, he brought up gay marriage. I told him I was opposed to it and he wanted to know why. I wrote three articles for him on why. Then, he did not want to be my friend, anymore.

Chiron conjunct Nessus

This was the funniest one, if you could call it funny. This was an Aries female. She and I got close. Then, could not stand each other. Then, got very close. We felt like best friends and soul mates, as Chiron relationships do. We were close for a long time. Then, one day I wanted to join a group of people she really did not like. I am a very free spirit when it comes to things like this. I told her I was going to do it. She freaked out and even changed her phone number. I tried to explain that it had nothing to do with her. She told me that if I ever texted her again, she would call the police. When I did, she called the police. I think this relationship was the strangest because of the Nessus.

Chiron conjunct the North Node

These relationships can last but the Chiron person brings pain to the NN person and it is a lifetime of pain. Pain becomes a theme in the relationship. If one looks back, one can see that. The North Node will define a person and define a relationship. If a negative planet , asteroid or fixed star such as Chiron, Nessus, Algol, Dejanira,Medusa,Narcissus, Echo or Sedna conjuncts YOUR North Node, in synastry, be very, very careful of marriage.

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posted March 19, 2014 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cuteleo85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there!

I love your articles! It's so easy to study them

I have a couple of questions:

1. What about Chiron conjunct saturn in synastry?
2. What about other aspects (sextiles, squares, etc.) just as bad no matter what?

Thank you!

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posted March 19, 2014 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Cuteleo85:
Hi there!

I love your articles! It's so easy to study them

I have a couple of questions:

1. What about Chiron conjunct saturn in synastry?
2. What about other aspects (sextiles, squares, etc.) just as bad no matter what?

Thank you!


Thank you so much for those kind and lovely words.

Well, Saturn and Chiron is pretty bad lol

I think the trines and sextiles are OK and do not cause this explosion kind of thing.

I mainly look at the conjunctions and very close opppositions and squares so can't speak to the other aspects that well.

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posted March 19, 2014 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cuteleo85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you so much for those kind and lovely words.

Well, Saturn and Chiron is pretty bad lol

I think the trines and sextiles are OK and do not cause this explosion kind of thing.

I mainly look at the conjunctions and very close opppositions and squares so can't speak to the other aspects that well.



Ahah that's what I thought. The conjunction we have is 6 degrees, so not super tight. We do have a tight square to my venus and opp to my lust. We definitely have some Chiron aspects. Should I run?

How can you tell when these negative Chiron aspects are not a deal break overall? I'm guessing most couples have some.

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posted March 19, 2014 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Cuteleo85:
Hi there!

I love your articles! It's so easy to study them


Fully agree.

I have chiron conj another's NN and I can see how I brought him pain in a way ( not intentionally ) but we brought it to each other really.

My chiron is retrograde though so could it mean I am able to bring healing to this person too?

Just read your article about planets in retrograde and from what I gather Chiron Rx could lead to someone being a healer. I guess I can see how that could apply to me somewhat. I've recycled enough pain to understand it very well.

Or am I just hoping this conjunction means that lol?

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posted March 19, 2014 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, H

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posted March 19, 2014 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With Chiron conj the NN, healing could happen as a result and it does, I suppose, but I would run if I saw it in my synastry.

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Ugh Ami!! The guy I just started seeing, my Chiron is conjunct his NN.
Hmmmm......there so much karma here to, his karma is on his NN
His Saturn is opposed my Karma

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posted March 19, 2014 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Ugh Ami!! The guy I just started seeing, my Chiron is conjunct his NN.
Hmmmm......there so much karma here to, his karma is on his NN
His Saturn is opposed my Karma


I lived this aspect, Gabby. I would run so fast if I ever saw it

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I lived this aspect, Gabby. I would run so fast if I ever saw it



Even if it's 3 degrees?? Who's Chiron was it and who got hurt, in your case?

I'm wondering if it could be healing also, we have some beautiful aspects to this to...

His-
NN aries@26.43
Panacea libra@23.37
Karma libra@25.33
Records libra@26.57
Devotes libra@27.24
Hartman libra@27.24
Joya libra@27.48

My-
Chiron aries@24.14
Abunduntia aries@26.03
Champion aries@25.02
Anteros aries@25.22
Celestia aries@26.32
Joya saggy@28.42
Praha saggy@27.59
Sif saggy@26.36
Tyke saggy@26.30

Comp Venus libra@25.12
Comp Osiris aqua@26.20
Comp Isis falls on my natal jupiter which is exact trine his natal Sun and comp Moon!
Chiron is loosely conjunct Isis and Chiron is making a tight grand trine with Ceres and our comp Sun....

Is there any scenario that won't end up hurting me or should I just run??

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
With Chiron conj the NN, healing could happen as a result and it does, I suppose, but I would run if I saw it in my synastry.



Ha ha fair enough.

Thanks for the insight

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posted March 26, 2014 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Chiron conj Chiron? Anyone have any insight?

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posted March 26, 2014 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
What about Chiron conj Chiron? Anyone have any insight?

Close in birth dates will have it.

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posted March 26, 2014 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Close in birth dates will have it.



Yeah. It seems I have it with a lot of people. Going to look at the other aspects. Remind me to look stuff up before asking silly questions.

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posted March 26, 2014 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is cool, LL. We all learn together

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posted September 23, 2014 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, you didn't have the Sun.

Is it like the person can only Heal your wound, but it's a Universal Service?


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I just thought it might be a one way thing.

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I know a cancer guy with sun conjunt chiron (dont know how close) so his sun would conjunt chiron of most people in his age group.
He is outgoing and confident, but I always think of him like lost puppy, trying desperately to please and cling to anyone who show him even minimum affection.

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posted November 05, 2014 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ungumuda:
I know a cancer guy with sun conjunt chiron (dont know how close) so his sun would conjunt chiron of most people in his age group.
He is outgoing and confident, but I always think of him like lost puppy, trying desperately to please and cling to anyone who show him even minimum affection.

Wow Great post Ung

I never thought of something like that.

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In the synastry with my mother she touches my Chiron in some way with everything down the line except her Chiron.

Allllll of them! Some are wide... but geez women... get up off my Chiron!

We have our ups and downs. Sometimes I find her just too much to deal with. Sometimes I really love talking to her. Sometimes I miss her. Sometimes I don't even think about her.

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posted November 24, 2014 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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