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Ami Anne
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Your Earth SuitóThe Natal Chart

I donít know if you are like I am, but I ask why? Why did I have my mother when I had so much potential to do and be whatever I wanted. Why did I have my mother, who was such an impasse that I shut my feelings down for a lifetime. Why couldnít I have had the motherís I saw at my friendís houses? Why couldnít I have had one of my aunts? I have asked this question thousands of times. I think God answered me and I will share that with you in this article.

The chart is our earth suit. How could it be otherwise when an astrologer can describe a person, in exquisite detail, just by a look at a chart. I have done hundreds of charts, in which I have known nothing about the person but described them with such unerring accuracy, such that the person was stunned. It is not me, a humble six year student of Astrology. It is the natal chart. The natal chart is made from God.Hence, that leads us to the conclusion that each person was fashioned by God, just as God wanted him. This corresponds to the verse in the Bible which says that every hair on oneís head is numbered.

One aspect in my chart got me going down this line of reasoning is the Child asteroid conjunct Dejanira, the victim asteroid in my own chart. This is an indication that I would be abused. The worst abuse is Moon conjunct Deja. This leads to Borderline Personality Disorder in almost all of the cases I have seen. Child conjunct Dejanira is second to this. The effects are not as devastating but devastating enough. Hence, I started thinking that if my mother had died, someone else would have come forth to abuse me. Oneís chart is given to one, as is oneís race. One cannot change either. Only God knows the whys. When we get to Heaven, we can ask him,but by then, we wonít care.

Onto other aspects which cause pain. Everyone has a Chiron. Hence, everyone has a core wound, although it is different for each person. The House of Chiron shows our area of wounding. If it does not, for you, I think your time of birth may be wrong. Sometimes a few minutes can change House placements. I will stand on the fact that oneís deepest wound is in the House of Chiron. For me, it is the 4th House, the House of the mother. Aspects to Chiron exacerbate or mitigate Chironís pain. I can discuss this in another article. In this one, I want to point our that everyone has an area of pain. That seems to help when one feels alone and that one has it the worst.

There are so many painful aspects in the charts that I donít know where to begin. Chiron conjunct the ASC seems to be severe bullying in almost all cases. The orb is key here. The closer, the worse the bullying.

Mercury combust the Sun seems to be one of the very hardest aspects and overlooked by many Astrologers. It makes the person very, very, very self centered and self absorbed, through no fault of their own.

12th house planets are very hard. Each one has a different challenge. The 12th house suppresses what it touches. Hence, one is suppressed in the sphere of the planet. With the Moon, oneís emotions are suppressed. Hence, it is very hard to feel oneís emotions, let alone express them. With Mars, it is very hard to be assertive. With Uranus, one may have hidden kink, to which one is ashamed. With Pluto, one may have a double life.One gril was a sweet, mild mannered nurseís aide by day and a wild, wold women by night. The Asteroid Sedna shows extreme betrayal by men, usually starting with the father.

Uranus and Neptune can be very, very hard when in conjunctions and in squares. Neptune conjunct the Sun is the classic sign of the addict. Neptune conjunct the ASC is the classic sign of an identity crisis. Neptune conjunct Mercury may be a liar. Neptune square Mercury may make the native lost in a dream world, perhaps being a factor leading to mental illness. Neptune conjunct Venus may make the person so romantic that she loses sight of actual reality when she is in love. Neptune square Venus may make the native pick the wrong partner, again and again.

Uranus conjunct the Sun makes for brilliance but there may be compensating problems such as the person canít settle and commit to either his job and/or a relationship. Uranus conjunct Mercury makes for brilliance, too, but the mind may buzz and race. This may drive the person to distraction. Uranus square Mercury seems to be one classic sign for mental illness.

These are just a few challenges. However, my point is that we bemoan our challenges, or at least I do. Maybe, I am alone but I kind of doubt it. I think the answer to my question of why is that God designed us with struggles. I think he wanted to humble us so we would find him. If one does not have struggles( and I do know some people who donít have too many) they can have a kind of pride, hubris. When this happens, they wonít bow their knee to God. Maybe, they were not the winners, after all, but the losers.

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Sorry There are some typos. I will fix it later. I think of Randall's Virgo ASC cringing

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Wonderful post Ami Anne!

But I wanted to ask, u meant that uranus and neptune conjunct are very hard only when they conj personal planets?
What about uranus conjunct neptune (esp when it happend in 1st house)?

I also noticed that I have dejanira opposite moon ( well , 4 degrees) , semi-square sun,trine venus,square mars, opp nept& uranus , is this bad??

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posted June 10, 2014 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Star!

Well, for your aspects, orb is key. An exact orb is very, very different from a 5 degree orb, so you need to put in orbs when you ask your questions.

Uranus and Neptune in good aspect--trine and sextile are positive. The energy can be used in an easy manner for the benefit of the native.

I have the Sun and Merc trine neptune and I am very creative, naturally.

The sq or opposition could make for too much of a fantasy life or even living in deception or illusion i.e mental or emotional illness.

With Uranus, it is the same principle. It can confer brilliance or madness.

The conjunctions cannot be said to have one rule--good or bad.

I know people hate when I use these terms but I use them for ease of teaching.

Uranus conj the Sun is pure brilliance, so one cannot say it is negative but the person could be eccentric, so one could.

The charts are never simple but one must simplify them for teaching purposes.

I hope that helped a bit

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Hy again Amy! :)

It's good to know ab the aspects,^^ but I meant more about :the conjunction between neptune and uranus, my orb is 1 ,

it is difficult in your opinion? I mean in comparisson with let;s say sun conj uranus

and again, for my other conjunctions:
for neptune conj asc, the orb = 4, for uranus conj the asc the orb = 3

for moon conj neptune...the orb is almost Exact- just 4 seconds to be really exact 00'00
moon conj uranus, again- 1 orb

Do you see these are difficult to tackle ?


Thank u again,
& sorry for bothering

Mercury is going retro these days:D and I am sure it's affecting me in a twisted way, hehe

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Originally posted by starlitroad:
Hy again Amy!

It's good to know ab the aspects,^^ but I meant more about :the conjunction between neptune and uranus, my orb is 1 ,

it is difficult in your opinion? I mean in comparisson with let;s say sun conj uranus

and again, for my other conjunctions:
for neptune conj asc, the orb = 4, for uranus conj the asc the orb = 3

for moon conj neptune...the orb is almost Exact- just 4 seconds to be really exact 00'00
moon conj uranus, again- 1 orb

Do you see these are difficult to tackle ?


Thank u again,
& sorry for bothering

Mercury is going retro these days and I am sure it's affecting me in a twisted way, hehe


You are no bother. I wish everyone was as sweet as you are

OK--Neptune conj Uranus will prolly be in the charts of all people of your generation so it is not a personal aspect. HOWEVER, the House becomes all important here.

Are these exactly conj your ASC--too lazy to look back-- If so, they would be very personally important to you, more as individual planets and not exactly the conjunction, since a whole group of people born at the same time would have it.

That is my opinion.

Do you know what I mean? xx

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Yes! Now I know!:D
Thank you!!!!! :heart:

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Originally posted by starlitroad:
Yes! Now I know!
Thank you!!!!!

Good!

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Hi Ami Anne.I have both mercury sq neptune and uranus.Not a nice combination, I suffered from severe depression for years.I`m a dellusional escapist,scatterbrain and overly sensitive.I've been struggling to figure out what I came to this Earth to do,now that I've relinquished all that no longer serves me, there is room for the new to take hold and improve my world in a thousand ways.
(does it make any sense,hah?)

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Originally posted by bioephemera:
Hi Ami Anne.I have both mercury sq neptune and uranus.Not a nice combination, I suffered from severe depression for years.I`m a dellusional escapist,scatterbrain and overly sensitive.I've been struggling to figure out what I came to this Earth to do,now that I've relinquished all that no longer serves me, there is room for the new to take hold and improve my world in a thousand ways.
(does it make any sense,hah?)

Welcome Bio. Why don't you put your chart up and I can see if I can help a bit. Put on the asteroid Kaali, if you can.

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Low fire--easily tend to depression

Gemini moon in the 12th--very hard to express your heart although you want to very badly.

You struggle to commit, in anything. You may want to run. That is the quincunx with Uranus.

Was your mother unstable or was there a kind of feeling that your heart could not rest as a child?

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Mars conj Kaali

Your goals may be hard to keep solid. You may feel yourself becoming like water vapor when you want to pursue a goal or passion.

Uranus and Nep conj the DSC

I feel that one of your main issues may be the feeling that you have to run and you don't know why or how.

You prolly look for guys who are out of the box but they may prove to be unstable.

You may look for guys who are spiritual but may find that it is hard to see them for who they are and you get disappointed

Does that fit?

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Does that fit?


Every single word fits,i`m amazed .You are awesome.
Yes,my mother was emotionally distant,but we are working things out currently.
When I was a child I was like a tornado.Nobody could put a hold to me.I guess she wasn`t ready for such a force of nature and couldn`t attune herself to it through the years ,dunno.
Parents are humans,they make mistakes consciously or not.I try not to blame anybody.

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Thank you. You made my day

If you want to stick some more asteroids in, I will look. I am not sure which ones will help you. I have a list of 200 or more I use. I will put my list up with the numbers and you can see if anything hits you--maybe Madhatter

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Earth Suit?

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Originally posted by Randall:
Earth Suit?

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Your Earth SuitóThe Natal Chart

I donít know if you are like I am, but I ask why? Why did I have my mother when I had so much potential to do and be whatever I wanted. Why did I have my mother, who was such an impasse that I shut my feelings down for a lifetime. Why couldnít I have had the motherís I saw at my friendís houses? Why couldnít I have had one of my aunts? I have asked this question thousands of times. I think God answered me and I will share that with you in this article.

The chart is our earth suit. How could it be otherwise when an astrologer can describe a person, in exquisite detail, just by a look at a chart. I have done hundreds of charts, in which I have known nothing about the person but described them with such unerring accuracy, such that the person was stunned. It is not me, a humble six year student of Astrology. It is the natal chart. The natal chart is made from God.Hence, that leads us to the conclusion that each person was fashioned by God, just as God wanted him. This corresponds to the verse in the Bible which says that every hair on oneís head is numbered.

One aspect in my chart got me going down this line of reasoning is the Child asteroid conjunct Dejanira, the victim asteroid in my own chart. This is an indication that I would be abused. The worst abuse is Moon conjunct Deja. This leads to Borderline Personality Disorder in almost all of the cases I have seen. Child conjunct Dejanira is second to this. The effects are not as devastating but devastating enough. Hence, I started thinking that if my mother had died, someone else would have come forth to abuse me. Oneís chart is given to one, as is oneís race. One cannot change either. Only God knows the whys. When we get to Heaven, we can ask him,but by then, we wonít care.

Onto other aspects which cause pain. Everyone has a Chiron. Hence, everyone has a core wound, although it is different for each person. The House of Chiron shows our area of wounding. If it does not, for you, I think your time of birth may be wrong. Sometimes a few minutes can change House placements. I will stand on the fact that oneís deepest wound is in the House of Chiron. For me, it is the 4th House, the House of the mother. Aspects to Chiron exacerbate or mitigate Chironís pain. I can discuss this in another article. In this one, I want to point our that everyone has an area of pain. That seems to help when one feels alone and that one has it the worst.

There are so many painful aspects in the charts that I donít know where to begin. Chiron conjunct the ASC seems to be severe bullying in almost all cases. The orb is key here. The closer, the worse the bullying.

Mercury combust the Sun seems to be one of the very hardest aspects and overlooked by many Astrologers. It makes the person very, very, very self centered and self absorbed, through no fault of their own.

12th house planets are very hard. Each one has a different challenge. The 12th house suppresses what it touches. Hence, one is suppressed in the sphere of the planet. With the Moon, oneís emotions are suppressed. Hence, it is very hard to feel oneís emotions, let alone express them. With Mars, it is very hard to be assertive. With Uranus, one may have hidden kink, to which one is ashamed. With Pluto, one may have a double life.One gril was a sweet, mild mannered nurseís aide by day and a wild, wold women by night. The Asteroid Sedna shows extreme betrayal by men, usually starting with the father.

Uranus and Neptune can be very, very hard when in conjunctions and in squares. Neptune conjunct the Sun is the classic sign of the addict. Neptune conjunct the ASC is the classic sign of an identity crisis. Neptune conjunct Mercury may be a liar. Neptune square Mercury may make the native lost in a dream world, perhaps being a factor leading to mental illness. Neptune conjunct Venus may make the person so romantic that she loses sight of actual reality when she is in love. Neptune square Venus may make the native pick the wrong partner, again and again.

Uranus conjunct the Sun makes for brilliance but there may be compensating problems such as the person canít settle and commit to either his job and/or a relationship. Uranus conjunct Mercury makes for brilliance, too, but the mind may buzz and race. This may drive the person to distraction. Uranus square Mercury seems to be one classic sign for mental illness.

These are just a few challenges. However, my point is that we bemoan our challenges, or at least I do. Maybe, I am alone but I kind of doubt it. I think the answer to my question of why is that God designed us with struggles. I think he wanted to humble us so we would find him. If one does not have struggles( and I do know some people who donít have too many) they can have a kind of pride, hubris. When this happens, they wonít bow their knee to God. Maybe, they were not the winners, after all, but the losers.



Definitely not planning on bowing to God anytime soon

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Definitely not planning on bowing to God anytime soon

Why am I not surprised

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Sorry There are some typos. I will fix it later. I think of Randall's Virgo ASC cringing


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Randall

I need an editor so BADLY. I have over 4000 articles and many of them are just left with "I will be back"


PS The rest have all sorts of grammar mistakes, too.

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I need some Virgo, Randall

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It can be a curse.

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It can be a curse.

Yes, I bet.

It is funny. I moved and I can handle this because it is smaller and so I am decorating.

I am so anal about things being pleasing to the eye that I will rearrange things a million times--kind of Virgo like, but is is classic Libra ASC

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