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Randall
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posted July 09, 2002 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Should each aspect have its own string, or should several fit on one string? I'm thinking, for example, that all the Moon (and so on) aspects would be on a single string, but separated by type. So, we would have a string for conjunctions, one for trines, then squares, etc. All those strings would be part of the Moon (or whatever) category. Or is there a better way to approach this?

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posted July 10, 2002 01:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh!! I get it.....like a giant umbrella for the Moon and the strings dangle from it with their own categories, right?
I like that very much

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posted July 10, 2002 05:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel that's the best way, Randall. Here are my thoughts ( and Virgo calculations ):

For each planet and luminary, we will probably have 3 strings:
1 for conjunctions,
1 for sextiles and trines, and
1 for squares and oppositions.

If we count the 10 standard planets and luminaries, plus Chiron, we have 11 x 3 = 33 strings. Of course, most of the aspects of the outer planets would have been covered in the strings for the inner planets, and so the strings for the former will probably be short (or empty).

Apart from these 33 strings, we will have a those for the many other topics, like ~ the Rising Sign, the Nodes, the Houses, general discussions of the Signs, the Transits etc. ... the list is quite long. So, I imagine that the total number of strings would be between 60 & 80, and may approach 100 over time.

The board software we have here displays 50 strings per page, which means this forum will have 2 pages of display (unless there are more than 100 strings). I feel this (two pages) is quite fine, and no knowflake will feel lost or confused.

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posted July 10, 2002 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds good to me, Elohim!

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posted July 10, 2002 03:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings All!

I have a quick question concerning the arrangement of the disscussions:

Will the house placement of the aspects be taken into consideration?
I has been explained to me that even though two aspects maybe almost identical, their house placement colors the influence those aspects will have on a persons life.

Thank You and Take Care

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posted July 11, 2002 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 11, 2002 09:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings Randall!

What does it mean?
The smiley behind the stone wall.


Take Care

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posted July 11, 2002 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Rokisha
Nice to meet you.

The lesson "schedules" are currently being worked on.

That's a good point that you make

And yes all these things will be covered.
You'll find that once you understand what each house represents, how each sign and planet behaves, plus the effect of each aspect...it will eventually become clear how they all communicate

How long have you been interested in astrology?
Sue

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posted July 11, 2002 06:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And when it's all said and done...

I will be able to interpret Grand Trines with ease!

...Hi Cat!

Also, I think the organization skill Elohim has demonstrated is admirable ...Hi Elohim!

Can you tell I'm excited here??

-pearly

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posted July 11, 2002 07:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greeting Cat!

About eight years ago, I met a Peruvian gentleman who did my chart. At the time he had benn doing it for +20 years. He is a member of the Grand Universal Fraternity.

Despite his extensive knowledge, I guess his "Mercury" must be affected some way because he has a very tough time getting himself understood. As if his ability to verbalize abstract concepts were limited.

So he left me with many questions and since then I have been reading up the subject and trying to understand my own chart.
So far the books I've read have left me with even more questions; I must say I have not had the chance to read Sun Signs.

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posted July 11, 2002 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We finished the outline today. I'll be posting it this weekend. It's rather detailed for a beginner Course. The actual house placements for the aspects may be saved instead for the advanced Course to follow. It's a lot of material to cover, and we want to make sure we cover it in such a way that everyone can easily understand. But like Cat said, it should be easy to see how they communicate with one another once all the pieces of the puzzle are put together.

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posted July 12, 2002 08:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't realize that you had started this catagory up, because I have a shortcut sey up to take me to the Astrology catagory. It may be taht others are in the same situation. It might be a good idea to mention this catagory in the Astrology string so everybody will know its here. Just a thought.

As far as structure goes, grouping Sextiles and Trines, and Squares ans Oppositions together seems to imply the old "Good" and "Bad" labels which I'm assuming we're not going to do here.

I'd recommend keeping them separate. It may be a little more messy, but it wouldn't imply anything by its structure.

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posted July 12, 2002 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Rokisha

That's very interesting re the Peruvian gentleman who did your chart.

lol @ his Mercury
Do you have his birth details? It may be interesting to take a look

"So far the books I've read have left me with even more questions; I must say I have not had the chance to read Sun Signs".

Yes astrology is totally fascinating...once you find the answer to one thing...up pops another question
Do read Sun Signs when you get a chance. It was the first astrology book I ever read.

Sue

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posted July 12, 2002 01:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings Cat!

I'm sorry I don't have any details about the Peruvian man's birth.
I have not seen him for some years now; if memory serves, I think he said his sign was Gemini.

Speaking afterwards, with other people whose chart he had done, they reported the same thing: even though he had given them much information, they hadn't understood the information.

I guess we're so used to thinking mostly in straight lines and astrology is a science of spirals in spirals, it takes "time" to "sync in".

Take Care Cat

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posted July 12, 2002 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the outline for both the beginner and advanced Courses. I'll post them soon, and you all can have a look to make any recommendations before adding them to the Astrology Forum. Actually, we were planning on lumping trines and sextiles together and squares and oppositions, but not to separate them as good or bad. Hopefully, we can do that without giving the wrong impression. Oppositions provide for balance. Squares are challenges, but they are not bad. The reverse can be true for trines and sextiles. They can provide a lot of energy that is difficult to deal with or use constructively. We will try to show both sides of each polarity and dispel the commonly-held myth that any single aspect or placement is harsh, bad, or undesirable. You have to take into account the whole "picture." I hope we can do that and still consolidate those four aspects, but we might also want to consider giving each separate treatment. Auriel also uses quincunx, so that will be included. The minor aspects might be briefly discussed, but they are normally only used when major ones are not available. The Course looks to be the best thing I've seen so far! The advanced Course is filled with a few topics not available anywhere else!

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posted July 12, 2002 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Randall

It's going to be & &


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posted July 13, 2002 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 15, 2002 07:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi pearly! Thanks for your kind words.

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posted July 31, 2002 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still unsure of how to do the aspects. Should we have several subset strings (and go through each Planet and Luminary on a single string with each aspect)? For example: Trine/Sextile on one string with each Planet written one at a time (with comments from Knowflakes allowed in between). Sound good?

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posted July 31, 2002 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Randall

I agree that we'd need several strings.
How about "focusing" on them planet by planet?
eg: Aspects to the Sun
That as the string title, then we could work through all the aspects that are possible to the Sun from the other planets/angles.
Then, new string and do same thing "Aspects to the Moon". etc etc

The strings would eventually get shorter as we go through the planets, as certain aspects would have already been covered in the earlier strings.
Hope that makes sense
Sue

PS: Just had a thought
Maybe two strings per planet.
eg: Aspects to the Sun (Lesson)
Aspects to the Sun (Discussion)

That way if someone wants to look at the lessons and not have time to read through potentially a long discussion thread, they could do that.

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posted July 31, 2002 11:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think it should be like this...
string 1 conjunctions and quincunx (or just conjunctions i dont know)
string 2 for trines and sextiles
&
string 3 for squares and oppositions

So to make a long story short I agree with that said this before me because i remembered someone said this already i just felt like puting my 2 cents in lol

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posted August 01, 2002 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I had in Mind is what Ineedlove said. But you have a great idea there, Cat. I hadn't considered one string due to having discussions, but with a separate Questions/Discussion string for each Lesson, it would work well.

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posted August 02, 2002 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We still might get people responding on the strings, though.

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posted August 02, 2002 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall

Maybe we can post the full lesson then you can close the lesson string???
Is that possible??? Bit like having a "read only" file???
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posted August 03, 2002 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's easily done, but some of these are quite long (several Posts), and people may respond in between Posts. Not really anything major, though. It'll work out.

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