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lalalinda
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posted March 27, 2006 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great website http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/BookKarmaHouse12.htm

Twelve

The Twelfth House

House of Pisces Element: Water

Ruling Planet: Neptune and Jupiter

Area of Consciousness Universal

Awareness through the experience of non-separation

Sun in House 12

The Sun in the 12th House indicates that consciousness is being opened out by the experience of functioning in the world with a perspective which gives no great awareness of self as a separate being. The vibration in this area of the horoscope weakens the dualism inherent in perception of human kind. A 12th House child does not readily distinguish between self and other, mine and thine.

In their childhoods, 12th House people are not encouraged to think of them­selves as individuals. The circumstances responsible for this are numerous and, on the surface at least, very different in nature. This placement is common in the charts of children brought up in orphanages, put up for adoption, or required to spend long periods in hospital. This placement may be found in the charts of children sent away to boarding schools, no matter how exclusive and no matter how loving the parents, in the charts of children born onto large families where clothes and toys are common property and the directed attention of the parents a rare commodity, and in the chart of an only child smothered by a parents love and concern.

In every case the child’s individuality is overlooked. Within the home and with­in the institutions, he is treated the same as everyone else and is not encouraged to recognised what makes him distinctive. Where the parent is smothering he exists for the needs of the parent, not in his own right. The early years of a person with the Sun in H12 tend not to be easy and are frequently unhappy. A person with this placement is prone to bullying. Other children detect his inability to stand up for himself and are likely to take his natural givingness as evidence of the need to buy friendship. Through out his life a H12 person runs the risk of being bullied, exploited and misunderstood by people who as unnerved by his lack of self-interest, as they are contemptuous.

By the time they reach early adulthood, many H12 men have cultivated a tough or flamboyant image.

In his dealings with the world a 12th House person tends to be handicapped by his lack of self-interest and competitiveness. Unless he adopts these qualities along with a worldly veneer - and some Ascendant signs, notably Capricorn and Scorpio, make this more likely than others - there is a tempta­tion to drift or retreat into drink and drugs because he can see no purpose to the struggle. In terms of spiritual development, however, a person with this placement of the Sun is greatly advantaged by a perspective, which sees unity rather than separation. A 12th House person tends not to think in terms of Heaven and Earth, rather he is aware of God’s imminence. It is characteristic of experience in the House of Pisces that for what is denied on the physical plane there is compensation on the spiritual. Psychic, particularly clairvoyant powers are often conferred by this placement of the Sun There appears to be no one profession which attracts 12th House people more than any other. They are found in all walks of life and fame is by no means denied them. As artists they tend to be concerned with the universally applicable. It is notable that 12th House celebrities are frequently seen as embodying the spirit of a movement or they become the figurehead of a trend or fashion.

This placement of the Sun is often found with the Moon in one of the houses of Relative consciousness, indicating that the soul, having learned about self and other is now learning that the dualship perspective can be trans­cended. It may be that the Sun in H12 indicates the completion of a cycle of soul development

Any Twelfth house Suns out there?
List your Sun Sign

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Mystic Gemini
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posted May 02, 2006 01:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini sun in the 12th house here.

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

-I took a walk around the world to ease my troubled mind. I left my body lying somewhere in the sands of time. But I watched the world float to the dark side of the moon. I feel there's nothing I can do.

-Three Doors Down

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alanabelle86
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posted May 09, 2006 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my sister is a Gemini Sun in the 12th

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posted May 10, 2006 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very descriptive.

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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posted August 12, 2006 04:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun in Taurus in 12th here!

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Lynx
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posted February 06, 2007 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lynx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aqua in 12th

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posted August 12, 2010 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpioSMR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio sun 12th..

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posted September 22, 2010 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Had to check, since I'm confuzzled about my sun and it's house.

So far, what applies to me is the bullying. I've been bullied because of my red hair and basically, really, because I was different and unique. I don't see the distinction between mine and theirs and on that note I also have no private life, because what's mine is everyone's. So so far so good. But my family was very small, I was the youngest. I'm not adopted (or so I hope) or placed in an orphanage.

I think I've cultivated a tough and flamboyant image, so that's another plus. Still, H11 has a lot of pluses too I am quite competitive, but usually only for laughs. I certainly would never get addicted to drink or drugs, no way in hell. The rest I don't particularly agree with. I don't think I'm psychic, just very good at reading subtle signals and interpreting them instantly

Still confuzzled. Sun in 11th or 12th? Both apply to me just as much.

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posted November 20, 2010 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
intercepted taurus sun in the 12th house here..

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posted November 20, 2010 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wonderful description, Lala
My mother has 12th house sun. It helps me understand her better

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posted November 21, 2010 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for changchiu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun Scorpio in 12th house..
Great writings..Especially in fame about spritiuality.In these days,I live that
I was broading,I love my family also they love me so,but I was always away from him..
Moon Aries and Asc Saggy help me so much..
I am just a receiver from people' feelings..This is hard for me..

With love..

Chang.

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posted November 28, 2010 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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posted January 05, 2011 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 15, 2011 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How True! How True! The description was perfect. I have a 12th house sun with neptune in Scorpio. Though all three here show spiritual inclinations, occult et all i am neither a psychic nor having any authority on occult or spiritualism. Sighhhh!

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posted March 15, 2011 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulful122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool, my 3rd brother has Sun & Merc in Cap in the 12th, he also has Cap AC. Kind, artistic, spiritual, sensitive, and pretty funny too.

And welcome abcd efg

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posted March 16, 2011 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sun is in Scorpio in the 12th House alongwith Neptune. Now that gives some nice scope for spiritualism or occult. But i dont seem to know much about either.

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posted March 16, 2011 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for the repetition. I cldnt view the earlier posting. Now i switched to explorer and i can. Some problem, i guess.

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posted March 16, 2011 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any Forum can do that sometimes. Just refresh the page.

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posted March 18, 2011 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK. Thank you for your suggestion Randall. And yes thank you for the 'welcome' soulfull122

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posted March 18, 2011 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is the effect of Pluto in the 12th house same as the effect of Scorpio sign in the 12th? Can somebody enlighten me on this please?

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posted November 19, 2011 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for affy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooh Actually, I've never been sent away to boarding or any of those above things mentioned above, but yeah, I did have a not so nice childhood so I can relate to it

Capricorn Sun in House 12 ^_^

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posted November 20, 2011 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alma Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi affy

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posted December 08, 2011 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun in Libra 12th house...

I was parent-less for the first 5-6 yrs of my life. I was bullied by my cousins who would lock me away in a dark closet, tell ghost stories and lock me in the room with the lights off at night etc. Most of all, I was made fun of by my aunts also who told me that my parents threw me in the garbage when I was born and they were the ones who took me back and raised me. Oh, and, my cousins loved to call me an orphan. While I cried, they laughed and pointed their fingers at me and made fun of the fact that I'm such a crybaby.

I was taken to another country at 6 years old with a stranger who claimed to be my biological mother. My father never bothered with me, its almost as if I didn't exist for him. He visited me once and I hated him so much that I refused to see him and locked myself in my own room til he left (I was 4). When he left he said that he wouldn't bother with me anymore and that theres no way to reconcile between us unless he won the lottery and was rich. How shallow can you be?

My mother worked day and night for YEARS so I hardly saw her. I only had my grandparents who took care of me. But after a while, they had left me too, with my mother whom I could never get along with. As of right now, the best advice and care given to me were my close friends. My family members always come into my life and leave when I was a child. I was never close to anyone in my family.


Blood is thicker than water? I can't really say I agree with that.

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posted December 09, 2011 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FYI - The link in the OP doesn't work.

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posted December 10, 2011 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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