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Topic: Confused about transits & houses
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sis Knowflake Posts: 101 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 06:40 PM
A friend of mine calculates on which house the transit will fall according to her ascendant. She disregards the sun sign. If this is a correct method, then how can anyone base horoscopes to sun signs ?I am a double capricorn. Even though, I have sun/asc same, the chart shows the house placements different than the horoscopes. examp: Neptune is transiting Capricorn's 2nd house and in 2012, will move to Capricorn's 3rd house. However, even though my ascen is capricorn as well, when I do transit chart on astro.com, it shows Neptune still in 2nd house - year 2020 ! Same with Uranus. It is supposed to be Capricorn's 4th house. Astro chart shows Uranus in 3rd house - year 2015 Same with Saturn... It's supposed to be Capricorn's 10th house - Astro chart shows Saturn in 9th house Even Mars.. it's supposed to be in Cap's 9th house, astro chart tells it is in my 8th... The house placements of outer planets on my chart matches Aquarius on sun sign / house placement predictions of astrologers. Confused. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 17243 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 05, 2011 10:27 AM
Transits are complex. Try asking in Astrology 2.0 instead.IP: Logged |
sis Knowflake Posts: 101 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted December 05, 2011 12:33 PM
thank you randall. I shall do that.IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 05, 2011 01:05 PM
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anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 05, 2011 01:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by sis: thank you randall. I shall do that.
Sis, for what is worth, I responded to you this morning but couldn't post my response. It was a long-winded one but the gist is: the size of the houses varies in Placidus so even counting from the ascendant won't do the trick for some of us. Let me know if this does not explain it for you and I will give you the "long" version. Also please post your chart so I can tell you which scopes will match you best.
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SaggiMC unregistered
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posted January 17, 2012 04:27 PM
You can get an immediate chart interpretation from astro.com. From ‘free horoscopes tab look for free 'personal portrait' or ‘astroclick portrait’ interpretation of a natal chart in the free horoscope section, you simply put the cursor on a planet and it brings a pop up box to explain what it means to have a planet in that house and any other aspects it has to natal planets. plus a six month free transit report in 'short report' Robert Hand gives a valuable in depth explanation of transits here – only slight objection I have with astro, is they use orbs of upto maybe 10' approaching, exact and departing. So most transits seem very long in effect. I use more realistic orbs of 1' approaching, 1' exact and 1' departing. http://www.khaldea.com/ephemcenter.shtml Transits I use--- 1° approaching, 1° exact and 1° departing. If you click on the link listed below for the online ephemeris it will list all planets at any given time. Learning astrology is like learning a new ‘language’ and obviously the more effort you put into something the more your knowledge and understanding will increase. All transits act as ‘background’ influences through a house, until it makes a mathematical aspect to a planet inside or an Angle. For 'timings' I would look to the retrograde hit as the most important trigger, then look to see what the quicker planets are doing especially mars & mercury -- astro.com has fee six month transit forecast plus when you get into Extended chart selection, look at the three tabs after calculating a chart under ‘method’ default is circular wheels (on left), middle is special charts and in their you get graphic ephemeris 1yr (or 5years) with natal = transits for 1yr and lots more. http://cafeastrology.com/transits.html http://cafeastrology.com/transits_2.html http://www.khaldea.com/ephemcenter.shtml http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/transits18.0.htm http://www.astro.com/faq/fq_fh_transits_e.htm http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_transits_e.htm http://www.astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2009.pdf http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-glyphs.php http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoundation/BookTransitsAndProgressions.htm Now it's more important to focus on transits from Jupiter to Pluto (poss mars as this is the ignition key)and these planets when aspecting something in your natal chart 'set off' the difficult or nice 'aspects - potential - problems' that your chart expresses. By that I mean if a benefic planet like Jupiter hits/touches/transits your venus, mars or uranus these could be experienced very pleasantly. BUT if your natal venus is afflicted, or badly aspected say conj saturn then jupiter will not has such a good effect. It all depends on how the natal planet is 'aspected' For me I would say external 'events' must be seen by transits, progressions or Solar arcs to Angles ie: Asc/Desc & MC/IC most other times these events are 'internal, psychological matters as in between the ears' Now astro.com uses a much wider orb, possibly something like 10° that’s why when you use the free transit forecast service a transit goes on for months and months. BUT common sense should tell you when the transit is ‘exact’ then it’s at the strongest. Some astrologers swear by 1° approaching produces ‘events’ some say the 1° exact, some say 1° off for triggering events. I personally look to the exact and 1° off for ‘timings’ especially the retrograde hit (backwards hit)
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SaggiMC unregistered
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posted January 17, 2012 04:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by sis: A friend of mine calculates on which house the transit will fall according to her ascendant. She disregards the sun sign. If this is a correct method, then how can anyone base horoscopes to sun signs ? YESI am a double capricorn. Even though, I have sun/asc same, the chart shows the house placements different than the horoscopes. examp: Neptune is transiting Capricorn's 2nd house and in 2012, will move to Capricorn's 3rd house. However, even though my ascen is capricorn as well, when I do transit chart on astro.com, it shows Neptune still in 2nd house - year 2020 ! WHAT HOUSE SYSTEM ARE YOU USING?? THE DEFAULT ON ASTRO IS PLACIDUS, AND I USE EQUAL HOUSE SYSTEM AND CERTAIN PLANETS WILL MOVE FROM ONE HOUSE TO ANOTHER... Same with Uranus. It is supposed to be Capricorn's 4th house. Astro chart shows Uranus in 3rd house - year 2015 Same with Saturn... It's supposed to be Capricorn's 10th house - Astro chart shows Saturn in 9th house Even Mars.. it's supposed to be in Cap's 9th house, astro chart tells it is in my 8th... The house placements of outer planets on my chart matches Aquarius on sun sign / house placement predictions of astrologers. Confused.
Don't bother reading newspapers or magazines as they are not proper astrologers, what they do is place everyone's sun sign conj Asc and read where the current transits are in those houses and give a reading.... Get your own FREE six month transit forecast off astro, or better still learn to do your own transits.... IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 17243 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 15, 2012 10:58 AM
*bump*------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
SaggiMC unregistered
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posted February 15, 2012 02:35 PM
sis,something else you should consider is the *house system* I use Equal House system (where each cusp is same as Ascendant) and am a modern astrologer. Lots of newcomers come into Astrology/forums and get a free chart from astro and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few others if you wish to experiment….. Within the mainstream are placidus/equal houses (the default on astro is placidus) only difference being some planets may move from one house to another thereby altering it's interpretation and it's 'only' with research will you find which /planets 'fit you' in which houses. So my advice, do two charts, research any planets that move houses and see which you identity with - simple Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAwGtMWl4z4
------------------ I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged | |