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Author Topic:   Part III - Lesson 6: Aspects to the Sun
moonshadow
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posted March 19, 2003 01:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aspects to the sun

Moon

Conj: You express your emotions easily. There is a unification of inner and outer selves. A deep sense of inner knowing and understanding. Sextile: You try to incorporate your emotions into your self image as to feel secure. There is support between your emotional and ego self. Square: Confrontation due to a difference between your will and motivation. Inner needs and emotions are challenged by your need to express yourself. Disharmony between inner and outer selves. Trine: You feel free to be true to yourself as you are supported by an inner sense of security. Harmony between inner and outer selves. Your core feelings support your actions. You feel balanced and strong inside and out. Opposition: Your identity is challenged by your deeper need and emotions. That which you believe to be yourself (ego) is getting confused due to an inner feeling of disharmony with your outer being. You might feel a yearning and a need which is difficult to identify and therefore to satisfy.

Mercury

Conj: Your ego and your intellect are integrated. The way you think is part of who you are. Your identity is closely linked to your mentality. You express yourself in a way that is true to your core being. Sextile: You use your mind to gain a deeper understanding of yourself and to create a stronger personality. Square: You have difficulty expressing your ideas. There might also be mental frustration due to a lack of the ability to focus your mind. Misunderstandings and miscommunication where others cannot understand who you are and what you stand for could also occur. Trine: You are confident in your mental abilities. You express yourself easily and can convey your self expression through this. You believe in yourself and can use your mind well to support your personality. Opposition: Your mind does not support your beliefs. You might find that you rationalize things about your personality and the conclusion is not in harmony. Your ego is being challenged by your brain and it causes upsets within you and in the way you express yourself. You might also have difficulty in expressing your views verbally.

Venus

Conj: You value yourself highly. You are cheerful and enjoy being social. You are probably quite attractive but can be narcissistic. It is important to you that others like you. Sextile: You have a knack with finances. You are sociable and relationships are important to you. Square: Possible problems with self-worth. This might put a strain on your relationships as you do not value yourself enough. Trine: You have a talent for acquiring valuable possessions. You are confident in yourself and feel attractive. Opposition: There might be conflict in relations with others. Your value system doesn’t always seem to be in harmony with that of others. Again there is a possibility of lack of self-confidence and feelings of worthlessness.

Mars

Conj: You have high energy levels and you are passionate about life in general. You can assert yourself and have strong leadership qualities. New ventures and plans are thought of all the time and you pursue these with passion. Sextile: You have access to a lot of energy and ideas. Your ego is enhanced and your confidence is boosted. Square: Energy levels are challenged. You can at times feel drained because your pursuits are challenged. Frustration can occur and this could lead to high stress levels. Conflict resolution is problematic and should be addressed. Trine: Easy flow of energy. Vitality on many levels. You have the ability to assert your will quite easily and there is mostly no opposition to your plans. Opposition: Low energy levels. Your will is often opposed and you are not able to follow your plans through. Low self esteem and confidence could also be a possibility as you are not respected for what you stand for.

Jupiter

Conj: You are very positive and outgoing. Faith is the best outcome is part of who you are. You can be a bit over the top sometimes as your energy bubbles over. Sextile: You seem to have a lot of luck in your life. Opportunities come to you often as you have such a positive disposition. You are often expending your horizons. Square: You can exaggerate your actions and this can lead to waste and excess. Your ego may be inflated so be wary of assuming that you can do more than what is actually possible. Risk taking could be a potential problem. Trine: You strive to improve yourself and you are often spending time learning new things to expand your horizons. Confidence and luck seem to come naturally to you. Your outlook on life in general is positive. Opposition: Restlessness might plague you. You might tale too many chances and risks. Your goals seem blocked as well as your ability to expand and learn. Moving ahead and covering new ground might be a problem.

Saturn

Conj: You are responsible and hard working. You believe that your efforts will be rewarded. Patience is one of your virtues. You could be too serious though and you should try to remember to have fun sometimes. Sextile: Authority and discipline come easily to you. You find that focusing and working hard are one of the best means to attain your goals. Square: You feel challenged regarding your work and responsibilities. You fear rejection and failure. Conflict with authority figures is possible. This placement challenges your beliefs and enables you to review it to grow. You may obtain success later in life through the maturity gained from the lessons you have learnt. Trine: You have knack for good timing, doing the right thing at the right time. You handle your responsibilities in life with ease. You are not put off by difficulties in your life as you have a sense of persistence and determination. Opposition: You generally have a problem with authority and discipline. You feel restricted in your life. Identity issues as well as lack of confidence might be a problem. You often might feel threatened when it is not real. Dealing with your confidence issues is important with this placement.

Uranus

Conj: Your freedom is very important to you. You enjoy being free to express your views and you do not take to restriction kindly. You may be seen as “immature” by some as you do not want to be trapped by the usual responsibilities associated with maturity. You attain your goals in your own unique, often progressive way. Sextile: You have ideas that seem ahead of their time. Sharing your ideas is important but you do not try to convert others to your point of view. It is usually quite the opposite: you enjoy listening to others and trying to gain an understanding of their beliefs. Square: You are often impulsive and not willing to follow the rules. This could cause problems with attaining your goals. You may be too concerned with your personal freedom with a lack of concern for others. Be wary of accidents as you might be exposed to potentially dangerous situations due to your carefree attitude. Trine: You are quite a creative thinker with many original ideas. The ideas of others are easily accepted by you as you believe strongly in personal freedom. You have a sincere caring for others and this makes you popular and often a leader. You have the ability to see the bigger picture and not to get dragged down by small details. Opposition: Originality is usually part of your personality but this can be taken too far to the point of being very impractical. Your personal freedom is so important to you that you might lose sense of the needs of others. You can try to create a stir just for the sake of being controversial and different.

Neptune

Conj: Intuition is very strong and you follow it in your daily life. You may also have creative abilities especially relating to music, art or drama. You need to feel needed and this is why you will often choose a career where you can be of service. Sextile: You are quite a sensitive person and you are aware of the feelings of others. Creativity is heightened by this placement. You have a very strong imagination and you use this well. Square: You may be overly vulnerable emotionally. There is also a possibility of escapism into a fantasy world resulting in a loss of reality. You may suffer from low self-esteem because you cannot realize your ideals. This may be because you have difficulty in focusing your energies and identifying your goals. Trine: You have access to a lot of creativity and ideas. Your imagination feeds your ideals in life. You need a lot of stimulation though as to not get bored. You have very strong intuition and may also have psychic abilities. Opposition: You may tend to escape from reality into your own world. You also create the world in your mind as you feel it and this may cause some difficulty. Some problems in your life may not be real but merely something you created. You have a problem with reconciling your ideals with reality.

Pluto

Conj: Strong opinions are likely with this placement. You have definite likes and dislikes. Finding a balance may be a problem as you tend to go from one extreme to another. You have a lot of internal power and this often motivates you to be quite ambitious. Social conscience is important to you and you fight against inequality and injustice. Sextile: You have the ability to become a leader as you have the ability to talk to people and you inspire confidence. Very strong feelings of self-understanding are present here. Square: This aspect is essentially about power. You may have power struggles in your life and a feeling of loss of power. Compromise is something that needs to be learnt as to avoid constant clashes of wills. You appear to be perfectly composed but bubbling under the surface is a lot of strong feelings. Trine: You have strong powers of perception and the ability to see right through people. Things do not remain hissed from you for long. This gives you a knack for a career in psychology or something similar studying human behavior. You have strong powers of concentration and can focus on your goals easily. Opposition: You easily feel threatened and challenged by others. This makes you quite defensive. You can be a bit overwhelming and overpowering as you have a strong need to reach your goals. Be careful of resentment in your life. Once you get to gain a deeper understanding of your motivations it is possible to reassess yourself and make the necessary attitude adjustments to simplify your interactions.

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morgana
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posted March 19, 2003 01:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question:

Does only one aspect to the Sun mean that it has a stronger influence?

By the way, Uranus square Sun: true! "A rebel without a cause." That's me.

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posted March 20, 2003 09:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun Op Saturn: You generally have a problem with authority and discipline. You feel restricted in your life. Identity issues as well as lack of confidence might be a problem. You often might feel threatened when it is not real. Dealing with your confidence issues is important with this placement.

Sun Tr Uranus: You are quite a creative thinker with many original ideas. The ideas of others are easily accepted by you as you believe strongly in personal freedom. You have a sincere caring for others and this makes you popular and often a leader. You have the ability to see the bigger picture and not to get dragged down by small details.

Sun Sq Neptune: You may be overly vulnerable emotionally. There is also a possibility of escapism into a fantasy world resulting in a loss of reality. You may suffer from low self-esteem because you cannot realize your ideals. This may be because you have difficulty in focusing your energies and identifying your goals.

Veery interestink -
Thank you, Moonshadow

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Randall
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posted March 21, 2003 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are doing great, Moonshadow!

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morgana
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posted March 21, 2003 10:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uhm... Can anyone answer this question:

Does only one aspect to the Sun mean that it has a stronger influence?


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Lunargirl
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posted March 21, 2003 11:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the lesson!

cheers,
Lunargirl

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Tuesday
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posted March 21, 2003 04:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how can mercury be opposed to the sun?

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ice Mists
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posted March 21, 2003 07:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i was wondering that myself

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ZenRia
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posted March 22, 2003 12:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

Mercury can't be opposed to the Sun in a natal chart (as Ravi pointed out in his email). Neither can Venus. They also can't be squared or trine the Sun in a natal chart.

But there is more to astrology than the natal chart. So much more. When you do synastry, these planets can be in any combination of aspects. This holds true for solar returns, looking at transits to your natal chart, mundane, electional and horary astrology.

Moonshadow was giving you all the aspects to the Sun that can be used throughout astrology, not just in natal. Wait until you start comparing your chart to your newest love interest or your latest boss! You'll be glad she described those aspects for you!

Maria

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morgana
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posted March 22, 2003 01:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maria, can you answer my question? Anyone?
Please??!!

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Randall
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posted March 22, 2003 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Morgana, each aspect is taken individually on its own merit. In other words, the Sun isn't stronger simply because it only aspects one or a few Planets.

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posted March 23, 2003 12:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No aspect ouwld make the sun stronger but if it is dignified, in mutual reception ,in the first house ,in Leo it would make the Sun a stronger influence? or it is strong just because it is the Sun? What would constitute a strong Sun ? or a strong aspect for that matter???

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posted March 23, 2003 01:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just came back from a birthday supper....I celebrate with 4 other fish and we eat sea food...yearly tradition...wine flows freely so maybe my posts will be not incoherent but maybe embarrassing???I really love this site...feel at home!

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posted March 23, 2003 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, some aspects are stronger than others. Many are minor and not used at all by most astrologers (unless there is a lack of stronger aspects).

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posted March 23, 2003 11:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Randall!
We really have to wheedle things out of you don't we??(I'm smiling here so don't take offence... no tone implied)

Aspects can be of more importance but the Sun having many aspects would not make it major? A conjuction of the SUn makes it strong? compared to two sextiles and one quintile to the sun? (like poker?)I understand quickly I just need someone to explain it for a long time!

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posted March 23, 2003 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I consider sextiles to be strong aspects, but I see what you are saying. The main thing I'm trying to relay is that the Sun (or any Planet) doesn't have a finite amount of influence that it divides between several aspects, meaning that it isn't stronger the fewer aspects it makes.

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Morgana,

Are you asking if the ASPECT is stronger because it is the only one to the Sun or if the Sun is stronger because it only has one aspect?

Randall's explanation takes care of the first question. An aspect is considered stronger or weaker based on the kind of aspect it is. So an opposition, trine, sextile and square would be considered strong. A conjunction is considered strong as well. Many people, myself included, rarely use minor aspects. If a planet were completely unaspected, I would look at the minor aspects to see if it could give more definition.

As far as whether only having one aspect makes the Sun stronger than having many aspects, I think it would depend on the planet and the aspect.

Let's take my Sun as an example. The only aspect my Sun in Pisces makes is a very loose trine to my Moon in Cancer. Now this is a powerful aspect that helps my Sun. If my Sun were square Saturn as well, that aspect would hinder my Sun and I'd have to take it into consideration.

However, if the only aspect to my Sun was a square to Saturn, then it would make it more difficult for me to let out my Sun's innate quality.

When you start to synthesize the ability of your Sun to act, every aspect gives you a clue as to whether it can act easily or with more difficulty.

I would use the words help or hinder instead of making it stronger or weaker.

I hope this helps to answer your question.
Maria

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Okay!!!

Hinder or help is good....so a sun that is in square aspects and only one trine would have difficulty using that trine or letting it shine? on top of which I have ot consider whst other planets are in aspect? if the sun is square Saturn but trine Mercury than the square would be major...nope it would mean that that aspect would hinder the functionning of the trine? Am iI just confusing myself even more?Aaaaaaaaaargh!

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Brunnhilde
Now you're confusing me
Just kidding.
Astrology is so fascinating that it always leaves you with more questions.

Once we've moved through the lessons as scheduled we'll put everything together and start to look at individual people's charts - for anyone who'd like that. As not only will that give the person who's chart we're looking at a better insight into their chart but it will also help everyone else in chart interpretations
Sue

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posted March 23, 2003 05:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!

I always compare my mind to a hamster in a whel and sometimes that wheel just goes too fast and my hamster just can,t keep up!

Must be the Aries Mercury and Mars in Gemini that make me jump ahead before I get the basics down.

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ZenRia
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posted March 24, 2003 01:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brunnhilde,

You've confused me too. I'm heading for my astrology books as we speak!!! Hahahahaha

Just take each aspect separately and relate it to the planet (not to other aspects). Does it help or hinder that planet.

Once you have all the pieces of the puzzle, you can start putting it together.

Cat: The idea of working on charts is wonderful!!! What a great teaching method.

Maria

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posted March 25, 2003 12:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hamster wheels and overall charts... confusing, but _intriguing_!

I agree, ZenRia-- Cat's offer is very generous! Seems to be so many experienced astrologers on board here.


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morgana
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posted March 25, 2003 11:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, people!

I meant the aspect, but thanks

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I always thought that the closer an aspect is to the exact aspect, the stronger the influence and not the number of aspects there are, isn't it?

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