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posted December 02, 2004 05:16 PM            

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Hi VTT,

Ok I think I've got it, 6 degree Taures Asc. right??

No retrogrades except for Chiron and an interesting conjunction between your 1st house Moon and Chiron. I'm always looking for info on Chiron, anything you get pass along please.

Your ruling planet is Venus and yours falls in the 5h house. Cool Placement, we'll start here

Venus 5th House

(Stephanie Camilleri)

This is an excellent location for Venus. Almost always with this location there is a great outpouring of creative energy throughout the life. It takes a barricade of terrible aspects to block the glow of life-giving and life-loving energy maintained by this angle of Venus, 120 degrees from both Ascendant and Midheaven. These people find it easy to express themselves without restraint by whatever means are at hand. The worst stress aspects only seem to increase their powers.

This is a good position for an athlet, because it is highly competitive and eager for contest and victory, though it is not so good for a team player as they aren't willing to take a secondary position for long. It is also a good position for teachers, the creative drive here being used to catch the imagination of the students.

Romance is very important to these people; they will marry only for love. Romantic love is a god to them; and they will want to sacrifice much for it at one time or another, though they may refrain out of loyalty to the emotional status quo, which is also very strong. They know their own creative strength comes from the loving approval of those around them, and so do not want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg.

They are kind, thoughtful, and considerate when Venus is in an Air sign; passionate when it is in a Fire sign; sentimental when it is in a Water sign; and unshakable when it is in an Earth sign. They are extremely generous of self and goods, unless their passion goes elsewhere, though loyalty will maintain a dribble until the end.

They are good farmers and gardeners; their creative energy gives them a green thumb, and plants seem to spring up in their presence. They are eager to be parents, but if fate blocks this somehow, they will usually find some way to work with children as their instinct is so strong; or, if not children, animals.

They are very hard workers at what they enjoy, but lazy about doing anything else, feeling no tremors of insecurity as they wait for their luck to come along, which it always does. They have a tremendous amount of physical energy at their disposal, which helps in a career of sports or dance (or anything, really). This gives the energy to embark upon a career, but often diminishes the follow-through, as these people must follow their own growth, and so often make mid-life changes that can hurt a lifetime career thrust. Usually, they are more interested in doing whatever excites them at the moment than in maintaining any kind of long-term career commitment, although if tenth house planets and other factors testify to a career, this will certainly strengthen it.

They are usually enthusiastic about food, cooking and eating, and are good cooks, often combining gardening and cooking into a search for the perfect dining experience.

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posted December 02, 2004 06:25 PM            

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VTT,
one more, Saturn conjunct Pluto

(Robert Pelletier)

The conjunction of Saturn and Pluto gives you a driving ambition to realize your goals. To do this, however, you must use all your resources and experience. An austerity program may be necessary, but you are wiling to endure whatever is required so that your plans will succeed. The fear of an unfullfilled life drives you to accomplish as much as you can. You are certain that your determination and persistence will make success possible.

You may be forced into a particular profession before you realize which field will enable you to get the results you desire. Your inclination is to traditional occupations that can give you stability in the face of changing social values, which seem to financially threaten you. You may resist 'getting in step' with changes and defiantly challenge anyone who suggests that you must, or you will make anxious adjustments to them. In any case, your approach to solving the problems you face is extreme. You either 'join' and transform a liability into an asset, or you resist and suffer defeat from the relentless tide of progress.

Secretive about your plans and ambitions, you don't share your innermost thoughts with anyone. You work behind the scenes, patiently acquiring financial resourses that you feel will protect you in later years. You are efficient in managing your financial affairs and resourceful in spending.

You are qualified to gain positions of power an authority. An effective organizer, you command the respect of those under you. You are almost faultless in observing the law, and although your judgement may be harsh, it is fair. You have an uncanny ability to understand people's motives, which serves you well in determining guilt or innocence.

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posted December 05, 2004 09:04 PM              

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These are really cool!! Yup, Taurus Asc at 6 degrees.

I love even just looking at that Moon/Chiron conjunction. I have a bunch of random info on Chiron that I'll post in here after I write this.

Venus! YAY! Definitely tons of creative energy that I never lose. The stress aspects to my Venus kind of intensify that energy as noted here! Definitely competitive and not a team player.

Love romance <3 and am very loyal.

Love gardening, wish I had a spot for it!

The one thing I always find odd about this interpretation, is that I have no interest in children nor having them. I wonder if my squares to this Venus are part of that.

All the stuff about careers seems true too, I like to change what I'm doing fairly often and have a hard time making a long-term commitment in career.

Mmmm food...people love my cooking.

AWESOME Saturn conjunct Pluto!! That fear of an unfulfilled life is SOOOO strong in me. I've been forced into crappy jobs...however the part about traditional occupations may be untrue, as I'm looking at some jobs right now that are rather...eccentric? I definitely resist getting in step with changes! And I do have that approach to solving problems as extreme.

Very secret about plans and ambitions except with those I trust very much (few close friends and my career counselor). Like working behind the scenes! Very good about money.

Hahah I love that last paragraph it is so true it's funny.

So yeah it almost all rings true, only the interest with children, and traditional jobs for financial security don't.

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posted December 05, 2004 09:07 PM              

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Here is all of my Chiron info so far that I've gotten from a few sources. (I should have kept track of my sources!!!)

Chiron: a maverick asteroid (or possibly a comet) that some astrologers believe to be the ruler of Virgo. Orbits the Sun between Saturn and Uranus. Spends more time in Pisces, Aries, and Taurus rather than Virgo, Libra or Scorpio. 51 years through the whole zodiac. Prominent in chart if it occupies an angle (especially if it conjuncts/opposes ASC or MC) or if it closely aspects the Sun, Moon, or planet that rules your Ascendant.

Teaches lessons. They may be unusual, startling or sudden. May also be upsetting, but in the long run they assist a person who genuinely wishes to discover a deeper purpose in life. Chiron is healer of emotional, spiritual, and physical ills – may open new realities and possibilities.

Takes the way-out idea of Uranus, and, through Saturn, gives them a practical use.

In Taurus
Stability and economic stability are elusive yet you long for them. Need to pursue your deeper values to put your desire for material goods and financial security into perspective. Values and security are prominent issues. May feel you have never been given enough. Your heart may feel neglected and undernourished leading to poor self-esteem. May overcompensate this by accruing money and possessions, or clinging to people in hopes they can provide you with missing sense of security. May also mistrust your body, or that it is not beautiful. May be an injury/trauma difficult to come to terms with, or may have suffered a loss financially.

In 1st House
Sense of self has been violated. Feelings of worthlessness and/or that nothing is ever good enough. Learn to assert yourself and to take appropriate action or initiative to remedy situation – appreciate yourself and others for WHO they are. Can tend to be self-sabotaging in thought patterns.

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posted December 06, 2004 12:20 AM            

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good info on Chiron,
Too bad you're not interested in having children because a 5th house Venus gives beautiful and/or talented children. You're still young and that may change, I'm all for women waiting.

You have a tight square with Uranus and Venus this aspect is not always easy to live with because its different but also creative.

Venus square Uranus (Robert Pelletier)

The square from Venus to Uranus shows that you tend to be fascinated by individuals who have unusual qualities. You remain infatuated until the person begins to be seriously interested in you. Then you find new ways to detach yourself from any permanent tue, because you enjoy being a free spirit. You are not really sure you can ever accept the responsability of belonging to one person. The fear of responsibility is unrealistic, but it is consistent with your figuratively promiscuous temperament. You defy convention and deliberately show your disdain for those who submit to it.

You refuse to compromise with tradition because to do so would mean that you had no individuality of your own. There is much confusion in your mind between love and friendship. you win friends easily but you aren't committed to them, except socially or superficially. Love, however, is more difficult, because of the demands involved and the limitations on your freedom. It is extremely impractical to expect others to make adjustments that allow you to preserve your freedom, while you contribute nothing in return. Even friendship requires that you meet others halfway.

You can enjoy exquisite thrills in the total fulfillment of a true love relationship. In a merely casual contact, however, 'If you settle for less, you will get less'.

If you apply the same attitudes to your professional interests, the results can be devastating. Promotion is unlikely unless you slow down your breakneck social pace, to show that you are sufficiently stable to accept greater responsability. You must also be more discreet in your private affairs, which you tend to flaunt carelessly.

Nervous irritability often results from this planetary combination, especially if you are immoderate and don't get sufficient rest.

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posted December 08, 2004 09:58 PM              

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HEY! This is so cool that you did the Venus/Uranus square one! I was just looking over my chart and wondering about my friendships (11th house stuff, mine's in aquarius so it's ruled by that Uranus!).

I definitely am fascinated by unusual people. Love them so much. Definitely enjoy being a free spirit and don't like being tied down too! haha. Sometimes I think I'm destined to be alone forever just because I wander from person to person and thing to thing. And yup, conventional people bother me!

Oh my god! So many people tell me that I blur the lines between love and friendship. I'm not so sure about the rest though...I do'nt really like superficial friendships or having a "breakneck social pace". I'm kind of slower than what the interpretation says in that sense, and I tend to keep loyal to a few old friends even when I'm passing through the social groups looking for others to grab onto haha.

that last line was so true too. And I'm definitely not getting rest lately, and it makes me a completely irritable worrisome person. Ugh!

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posted January 18, 2005 03:51 PM            

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Hi VTT,

We're working on Mercury right now and yours is in the 6th house conjunct Saturn

How organized are you?

(Freda Edis)

Those people with Mercury in the sixth house may be concerned with the refinement and perfection of routine skills. They may be very aware of the relationship between mind and body, particularly in the areas of day-to-day work and the people with whom they then come into contact. They are often observant and thoughtful about the details or routine work and how it may best be put into practice, conscious of the need to reduce tensions in daily life and work routines. One way for people with this placement to ensure a healthy interaction between mind and body is to pay some attention to diet and fitness régimes.

There is a deeper meaning to this placement. Often the care and concern with bodily functions reflect the mature mercurial nature of connecting all of existence through an understanding of the spiritual, psychological and physical needs of human nature. Work at the level of the physical body and immediate environment helps to prepare a vessel through which the psychological and spiritual functions can best operate. What is above then stands a better chance of integrating with what is below, so the sixth house principle of the concern with everyday needs is an important step in preparation for later alchemical transformation.

We see this step being taken in any preparation for a religious rite. The meeting-place is prepared, the ritual objects and vessels are set out, ablutions may be performed, and priestly garments may be put on. The rite is set so that the minds and hearts of those taking part are purified and are at one with the rituals that are next undergone. These are the ones which, it is hoped, will effect some spiritual transformation. There is analogy here with healing rituals; the preparations for an operation have a similar significance, but at the material level. Mercury, at least in the sixth house, can be as at home with the practical as he is with the spiritual, provided that there is a continual awareness of the meanings which lie behind the practical.

But aspects with other planets will give more indications of how Mercury operates here; and sometimes these may be at odds with the underlying Virgoan meaning of preparation and purification. Signs on the cusp may broaden the scope of Mercury placed in the sixth. Mercury with Cancer on the cusp of the sixth house may indicate people who are aware of how intensely emotional their mental processes are when involved with everyday work; Mercury with Libra may objectively note that they are always trying to achieve a balance between their work and health needs.

People with this placement may develop their capabilities in a way which gives them satisfaction in daily life. Observance of the minutiae of routine work, their connections with colleagues and how their bodies and minds respond to the stresses and tensions they encounter during the working day will help them consciously plan a way of life. Some relaxation is necessary before they feel they can best serve others. They have a need to remain fit and emotionally at ease with their own work. This way they can best purify themselves before they offer themselves for service.

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posted January 29, 2005 03:03 PM            

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As I've said before a 5th house Venus gives beautiful children

Venus in the 5th house
(Howard Sasportas)

With Venus in the 5th, there is a natural urge to express the self in a creative or artistic fashion. Even if a career in the arts is not pursued, some sort of creative outlet brings greater personal fulfillment and well-being. In times of stress, picking up a paintbrush or sitting down to write something may restore a sense of equilibrium and balance. The motto of those with Venus in the 5th might be 'If it's worth doing, it's worth doing in style'. Unless Venus here is very difficultly aspected by the outer planets, the personal style and flair is usually of a type which most people will find pleasing and endearing.

Those with this placement are often 'in love with love'; and romantic pursuits will be high on the list of priorities. Some will only feel alive if they are in the throes of a great romance with (of course) the most divine creature on earth. Hobbits, recreational activities and trips to the theatre, cinema or art gallery help to 'round out' the personality. In short, they love to play.

If Venus is well-aspected, children are likely to be a source of pleasure and fulfilment. Parents with this placement will usually encourage any sign of their children's budding creativity - especially if their own artistic promise was stifled when they were young. Taken to an extreme, the child may be shuffled off to dancing school on Monday, acting class on Wednesday and piano lessons on Friday whether the poor kid wants to or not. Parents with Venus in the 5th need to be careful about unconsciously setting up situations of competition or rivalry between children or between themselves and their children in an attempt to find out just who is the fairest or most talented of them all.

Venus in Virgo
(Frances Sakoian and Louis Acker)

Venus in the sign Virgo is in its fall, since Virgo is opposite the sign Pisces, in which Venus is exalted. People with this position tend to over-analyze emotions and be too critical of those they love, making others feel self-conscious and inhibited, and cutting off the spontaneous flow of affection. This analytical trait can stand in the way of a direct intuitive response to beauty. These people try to understand the beauty of a rose, for example, by dissecting it petal-by-petal, not realizing that the rose is beautiful because of the totality of its parts.

People with Venus in Virgo frequently seek partners with whom they can share their work and intellectual interests. But this Venus position is likely to produce more unmarried people than any other Venus sign position, because of the natives' high critical standards for what they want in a mate. When they do marry, it is often through connections with work. Unless Venus is heavily afflicted, there are congenial relationships with co-workers in general. The place of work is often made artistically pleasing by a personal contribution to the working environment.

These people are extremely fastidious about manners, personal appearance, and hygiene; they are repelled by uncouthness in any form. They have an innate sense of the beauty of order and cleanliness, and hence make good cooks and dieticians. They can have ability in clothes design and dressmaking; fashion designers often have Venus in this position. In art, they can have good technical ability, but may lack inspiration and flow.

The extreme social propriety of these people is often a cover-up for shyness and feelings of social and sexual inferiority. Their cold exterior, especially on the part of women with this position, often stands in the way of the development of romantic relationships. A feeling of loneliness and frustration may result. In this event, there is likely to be a retreat into work and intellectual pursuits, and the lavishing of affection on some animal. Such confinement can in turn prevent the formation of social contacts that would help these people out of their shells. However, if Venus is well placed by house and well-aspected, the difficulties can be overcome or greatly modified. Because Venus is an Earth sign, Venus placed here gives attraction to material comforts and personal possessions of quality and beauty, which, the natives feel, confer status. Often they work hard to acquire such things, sometimes using possessions and status as substitutes for personal affection.

People with Venus in Virgo are capable of sympathy, and are helpful to the sick. Their ability for nurturing makes them good doctors and nurses. They can also deal with psychological problems stemming from social maladjustment, for Venus in this Mercury-ruled sign is able to combine reason with the emotions and investigate these matters in a methodical, analytical way.

Curiously, if Venus in Virgo is afflicted by Mars, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto, there can be an overreaction against shyness and social propriety, producing loose living, promiscuity, and bohemianism. This stems from a deep fear that only thus can the natives find love and sexual fulfillment; they feel the need to make sexual conquests in order to prove their desirability. In these cases, the unconscious Pisces polarity takes over. These reactionary types can become crude and slovenly in their personal appearance and mannerisms.

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