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lalalinda
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posted November 30, 2004 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Everlong,
I've been doing some work with your chart and I love it. You're going to go far. For right now I'd like to discuss your stellium in the 7th house. Uranus, Neptune and Saturn. For starters you have a Strong Saturn by sign (home) and by house (exaled) In the Natal Saturn shows if you'll fulfill your potential, you definately will.
Powerful for a little Pisces
Below will be an interpretation for your Neptune/Saturn conjunction because they're so close, add Uranus and expect the unexpected. With Uranus in the 7th house you'll never have a "normal" marriage or relationship there will be something eccentric about it. Perhaps alternative, long distance or with a foriegner. Whats normal for one isn't necessarily for another. You will be comfortable with it and thats all that really matters.


(Haydn Paul)

This aspect occurs approximately once every thirty-six years; during the last century, in 1917, 1952 and 1989.

The effects of Saturn have a beneficial influence on the tendencies of Neptune, helping definition, stability and ease of expression; the potential is for practical idealism and an ability for positive application of the ideas and imagination emanating from Neptune. This is useful for creativity, as the inspiration of Neptune can be given adequate form and manifestation by the concrete tendencies of Saturn, and so the imagination is not left swirling in an inner world of dreams and fancies but is released onto the physical plane to be shared with others.

There is less of the delusive nature of Neptune present with this aspect, and there should be a greater perceptive clarity than usual, one that is especially sensitive to issues of deceit and glamour. You are less prone to make mistakes through such reflective blindness, and tend to be self-protective mainly by a careful and wary distancing that you maintain with strangers or new acquaintances. This is part of the Saturn contribution of caution and unease with anything that is unknown. Trust needs to be progressively developed in you, whether in people, circumstances or situations; and you are usually reticient in making any firm commitments until you have thoroughly evaluated any set of choices. You tend to rely on a faith in facts, and impersonal judging of what seems to be the wisest choice to make; this can be beneficial in your life, privately and in a career.

It is probable that the Saturn energy will be the dominant one, with the Neptune energy occasionally repressed for practical reasons. If you allow Saturn to be too emphasised, then opportunities may be lost through excessive evaluation and lack of decisiveness; that fear of the unknown will also act as a restrictive and inhibiting factor. You are likely to erect a well-defined lifestyle and personality structure which allows relatively little space for the Neptunian influence to be expressed, as it is more anarchic and expansionary. What can occur is a sense of confusion regarding your own personal limitations, where they begin to feel imprisoning and Neptune agitates to dissove those barriers and to experience those repressed dreams that you are attempting to ignore. A careful balancing of both these planetary energies is essential, both for inner harmony and for external success. Otherwise, degrees of distortion and lack of perspective will increase, as the Neptune influence demonstrates its repressed presence through more negative characteristics.

For those exploring the spiritual dimension of life, this aspect offers several valuable assets, in that there is a questioning of dogma and assumptions, a tendency to deglamorise through a more earthy perspective, and a developing ability to rely on the inner guidance of intuition rather than on external 'authority sources'. This stage may have been reached as lessons learnt through earlier phases of gullibility and submission to teachers, possibly through religious or parental conditioning which you begin to cast away as inimical to your own development. Discrimination is important in life, and especially so when contacting occult teachings, where the likelihood is that through a lack of real personal experience only genuine ignorance exists; and the tendency of most is to fill that void by passively accepting whatever teaching is making an impact on them.

As you continue to develop, especially through standing alone and living through your own light, a greater maturity and perception will unfold. Insight and compassion founded on living experience will be gained, and if you practise meditational techniques then your own power and light is likely to shine brighter as your inner clarity emerges. Effective concentration and meditation should be possible, and some signs of psychic abilities may also emerge from the Neptune energy being released. You may become a channel for the transpersonal energies to enter these levels, and there will be a sense of social responsibility and of the context through which they can operate.

Your intimate relationships are likely to be deep and enriching, partly as a result of your careful evaluation of suitable partners; and in those relationships where your heart becomes involved you will tend to be cautious before openting to a full commitment. Relationships are important to you, and you place great emphasis on continually working at them to ensure that they are mutually beneficial and a source of evolutionary growth. You believe that 'right choice leads to right action'; and this is a key to your success and to your procedure of careful evaluation of options and decisions.

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posted November 30, 2004 11:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi lalalinda,

Thanks for the Saturn-Neptune passage! I can definitly feel the Capricorn in my chart when it comes to taking risks. I'm an extremely cautious/neurotic person, and though I don't go out of my way to do it, I like being in control when doing projects with other people. I'm very, very, very ambitious, and I have a lot of big dreams. I don't really want to live my life being another drop in the pond, and if I can't make a mark in society, then atleast one in the people that make a difference to me.

This:

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You are less prone to make mistakes through such reflective blindness, and tend to be self-protective mainly by a careful and wary distancing that you maintain with strangers or new acquaintances. This is part of the Saturn contribution of caution and unease with anything that is unknown.

is extremely true. The whole paragraph is, but yeah. The fourth paragraph is another one- although I was raised on Catholicism, and spent every Sunday going to church and Sunday School, after I was confirmed two years ago I started questioning everything about my own spirituality and religion in general, and became agnostic.

I've been wanting to try out meditation for a long time now, but as a chronic procrastinator, I always shove it aside with the excuse that I don't have enough time or energy to put forth towards it right now- which is true, considering school is killing me. But maybe I should try it out during winter break.

Thanks again !

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posted December 02, 2004 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heres Uranus in the 7th House
blend this with the Neptune/Saturn conjunction.
With Uranus on an angle twists and turns throughout your life.

(Haydn Paul)

Uranus in this natal house will be active in the sphere of personal relationships, where it is most unlikely that you will experience smooth-running, tranquil partnerships.

Often, this become sa struggle over the issue of relatedness, and what that actually involves and demands from people. Everyone has to undergo some kind of adjustment and modification of his / her behaviour within all social relationships, perhaps more intensely within intimate partnerships or marriage when people live togther. You may find such changes difficult to make, or resent having to do so; and this reflects that Uranian tendency to be highly individual and rebellious. With that stubborn obstinacy and belief in being right, you may fail to even see why you have to adjust in order for a relationship to continue and prosper. Certainly the question of freedom will rise; and your insistence on this and having your own way is likely to create conflict. At times, an insensitivity to the parallel 'rights' of others can stand out in stark relief to some of your progressive social ideas.

Commitment is another problem area. You probably have severe mood changes; attitudes and interests can rise and fall with surprising rapidity; often your demand for freedom and individual expression is but a cover for this inner fluctuation, as you know how erratic and unpredictable you can be. Coupled with this is that urge for new stimulation, perhaps new partners; and the thought of willingly typing yourself to one person can frighten you through fear of restriction and limitation. Running away from relationships of any depth can indeed restrict you to experiencing only superficial affairs.

Many changes in your life will be triggered by the nature and outcome of your social and intimate relationships. there may be sudden affairs, marriages, divorces, due to unpredictable behaviour by either yourself or others. Your life can be turned upside down in such situations; and even your demands for freedom in a relationship could suddenly become freedom without any partner! These relationships will probably have an element of the unorthodox about them, with unconventional and unusual experiences likely, especially if you are inclined to cross the lines of social taboos.

You may need to discover, and clarify for yourself, the function of relationship in society, to look at how you handle your relationships and how you regard their purpose. Uranus is attempting to lead you towards a new understanding of relationship in life, so that you can find real freedom within the relationship web instead of always being tempted to break out and stand alone. You need to transcend that aspect of destructiveness that you often bring into a relationship, which makes you respond to the pressure of growth by deciding that the tensions are unresolvable and looking for ways to shatter the bonds. In fact, a new approach to this sphere of life could open doors to entirely new forms of relationship, where each lives together in relative harmony, yet they are free enough to follow their own independent paths in a spirit of conscious partnership, instead of any antagonistic self-seeking demands which are exclusive of the partner, and which ignore his or her needs and sensitivities. If you can successfully modify your natural tendencies, relationships of valuable depth can be possible, which as you mature would really fulfil your needs.

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posted December 08, 2004 06:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Humm, that's interesting. The second paragraph really does describe me well- I always feel confused and disapointed when I see that I have to change myself just for someone else. And man, the third paragraph really hits the nail- I'll take on a new interest, become completely immersed in it for a few weeks to a few years, then completely lose interest and go on to the next thing.

I'm very big on freedom. Haha, that sounds weird, but yes. Since I was a kid, I've always gotten this complete thrill at the thought of being completely free and able to do anything at all, without any restrictions. I remember when I was a kid, my house had a gate so I was always restricted to our yard, but one day my uncle just let me go outside to the huge empty parking lot across the street from our house, and I just ran around with my dog- it was probably one of the happiest days of my childhood.

Yep, yep, thanks again LL .

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posted January 17, 2005 08:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, LL, was just thinking last night- what kind of effect would the square between my Moon and my stellium have? Take your time answering, you've got a lot of work =).

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posted January 18, 2005 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
good question,
Mercury is your ruler so this effects you personally
you have an exact semi-sextile to Saturn and Neptune (helps to iron out some of the more stubborn areas in your thinking, and gives the ability to study)
and a square to your 6th house Pluto, ruling the 6th house will shows obsession in your work.


Mercury square Pluto (Robert Pelletier)

The square from Mercury to Pluto indicates that you must learn to concentrate and apply self-discipline in mental pursuits. You find prolonged study painful and demanding, so you may resent anyone who forces you to persist. This was probably more apparent in your early years when schoolwork seemed so laborious. In spite of this, you have the self-determination to accept responsibility, although not under the watchful eye of someone else.

Your manner of speech is penetrating, and you express yourself so harshly that you seem almost insensitive. This arouses bitterness in others. You are undeiably bright and keenly perceptive, but you rarely feel obligated to other people. You are inclined to pessimism. Your behavior is extreme; at one moment you will criticize others with brutal frankness, and the next moment you will show amazing skill in maintaining your poise under pressure. It is truly difficult for people to know how you will reat, so some may avoid getting close to you.

Though you are fearless by nature, you demonstrate an incredible lack of common sense in dangerous situations. You take unnecessary risks just to prove to others how courageous you really are. Because of this, you may seek occupations that involve hazards. You are prone to accidents frmo equipment that uses or contains pressure, such as heating systems and boilers. Observe all safety precautions in handling them.

Before you decide on any profession, you must develop self-control and responsibility. You are more inclined to make errors in judgement than the average person, especially in handling large sums of money. Avoid getting into debt unless it is absolutely necessary.

You might be interested in such fields as crime detection, research and development, chemistry, pathology or medicine, but you must be prepared to yield to the authority of your teachers. It is essential that you pay attention to detail and work hard to gain the expertise required. Although you prefer to avoid reality, you must live with it. When you realize this, you will begin to grow and develop.

In your immediate environment, you can make enormous contributions to the socially disadvantaged. You are not afraid to speak up and challenge authorities when you learn they have abused their positions of trust. Just be certain you have all the necessary supporting evidence in order to avoid being ridiculed. This would bring out the worst in you and could result in violence.

Although you certainly know better, you sometimes have an obsession to shape other people's lives. You use cunning schemes to gain their submission. Because of your intolerant attitude, you should study human nature and learn how to effectively motivate others.

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posted January 30, 2005 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Everlong,

Venus is your most elevated planet conjunct the MC. Nice planet to have on top.
Venus is also square Mars (widely) and Jupiter.


(Sue Tompkins)

Venus conjunct the MC might be indicative of a Venusian career; a vocation in art, beauty, diplomacy or somewhere where there is a requirement for taste, comparison or harmony. Certainly, whatever the actual work, the individual will be able to bring diplomatic skills to it. Usually people with this placement know how to charm and get on easily with those in authority. Venus conjunct MC might also be expected to confer public popularity, or at least an urge towards trying to create it. Some with this configuration may become well-known because of their romantic life or the relationships they form. Still others might wish, beyond all else, to be known as a loving parent.

Venus on either end of the MC-IC axis may be descriptive of the experience of their own parent(s) as being very loving or popular. For others it may be more descriptive of a parent's vocational activities or their wishes for the career of the child.


Venus square Mars (Robert Pelletier)

Your Venus square Mars indicates that you have difficulty in maintaining harmonious relations with people. You are not the easiest person to get along with; you expect others to make concessions to you, but you refuse to make any compromises without being pressured to do so. You have a strong desire nature and use all kinds of clever tactics to get what you want. People may accuse you of using others to gratify your desires by taking advantage of their feelings for you, especially when you don't have similar feelings for them. You greedily assume the privilege of indulging yourself at every opportunity, expecting no interference from anyone.

This planetary combination indicates that you are not really happy with yourself, so you provoke trouble with others in order to blame them for your inability to resolve your personal conflicts. You are indifferent to the feelings of others because you don't really think they are worth it. The problems you have in relationships should cause you to wonder whether you are worth it to them as well. Somewhere there is a solution, and it would certainly help if you toned down your desires and adopted a more compromising attitude. Accept the fact that few people get everything they want, and, when they don't, they turn their attention elsewhere. You cannot force yourself on people and not expect some resentment for it.

Until you work out these personality difficulties, you will have problems with your family, friends, and associates on the job. If you can become more compromising you can be successful in any occupation, even those that bring you into close contact with people. You have magnetism, and you tempt people to want to be close to you. You are certainly not dull, and excitement goes wherever you go. Just be sure that the excitement doesn't become turmoil.

Make an effort to broaden your perspective by learning something about art, literature, music, and the social amenities. This aspect tends to produce a coarseness of manner that requires refinement and polish.


Venus square Jupiter (Robert Pelletier)

Your Venus square Jupiter indicates that you are a bit indulgent and careless in attending to your responsibilities. When things are going your way, you are outgoing and personable, but you can be difficult to deal with when you run into opposition. In your relations with people, you may indicate that you will make adjustments, but this is often an empty gesture. You resent being forced to do anything, and wish that people would realize this before attempting to get you to act. You feel that antagonistic feelings between you and someone else are largely the result of the other person not understanding you. You are generous mainly when it satisfies an ulterior motive, and you may withdraw an offer to hel someone at a later time by saying 'It wouldn't have been appreciated anyway'.

You have the potential to fill any of a variety of occupational positions if you learn to accept responsibility. You may not be free to engage in other activities that you would prefer, but you must be realistic in determining your priorities. You must discipline yourself to earn your living first and indulge yourself only when your duties are fulfilled. It is indeed almost impossible to have it both ways. In all your affairs, including personal relationships, job opportunities, or frustrations, you tend to exaggerate your plans for the future. You make it seem that everyone is beating a path to your door for your attentions. But the truth is that you are desperate for attention and will resort to all sorts of deceptive tactics to gain it. You must come to grips with these problems before you can expect to be successful. Once you do, you are well on your way to achievement in such fields as travel, public relations, guidance counselling, etc.. Communication is your greatest asset, and you can use it skillfully to gain your objectives. Stop being so defensive; most people are willing to meet you halfway if you give them the chance. You feel that you attract more than your fair share of hostility from people who are trying to take advantage of you.

If you present yourself honestly, you will attract individuals whom you can relate to romantically. Learn to be generous to others, even if it hurts to know that the generosity may never be returned. You may be surprised to discover how many people are naturally generous. Certainly you sometimes hate yourself for being cantankerous with people who don't deserve this treatment. When you indulge the needs and desires of others, it pays big dividends in goodwill.

Your greatest problems are learning to be less suspicious of people when they extend themselves to you, and to be less demanding of them in their relationships with you.

You may have a problem in keeping your weight down because of your self-indulgent habits. Rich foods are not for you, and a low-carbohydrate diet is recommended. Rest is also very important, and if you cannot get extended hours of sleep, try taking frequent short rest periods.

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posted February 28, 2005 10:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You find prolonged study painful and demanding, so you may resent anyone who forces you to persist. This was probably more apparent in your early years when schoolwork seemed so laborious. In spite of this, you have the self-determination to accept responsibility, although not under the watchful eye of someone else.

Oh wow, EXACTLY. I'm a chronic, chronic procrastinator, and the more I'm told to do something, the worse I get about it, prolonging it, etc. Just, wow, yes.

The second paragraph is really very true as well, except, I usually don't show that side of myself unless I'm in an actual conversation, if that makes sense. But yes, I rarely do feel obligated to people, I've been like that for most of my life.

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you demonstrate an incredible lack of common sense in dangerous situations

HA. Yes, except for the fact that it works the other way. I'm very yellow, wimpy, and very easily scared, so I tend to get very irrational and a wee bit hysterical when in dangerous situations.

I'm not really interested in any of those fields, but the last two paragraphs do have grains of truth. I do like messing with people's minds/ideas sometimes for my own sick curiousity, it's not a nice part of my personality. I'll use people for my own emotional uses, you know, not really care about them in turn.

Well, onto the Venus conjuct MC...

Oh wow, here we are- I love all things art, music, literature, etc. I always got on very well with authority and elderly when I was younger, although it's faded a bit right now since I'm going through some teenage rebellion against authority. When I was in middle school my sixth grade science teacher absolutely adored me, along with a math teacher that I never actually had. When I was in the seventh and eighth grade, I moved on to more advanced classes, but my friends still had them, and when I would walk past my old science teacher, she would always make a big thing, hug me etc, ask her students why they couldn't be more like me. It was actually sort of scary, now that I think about it.

Humm, well, since my mother died when I was a baby, everyone has always described her to me as an absolutely loving, beautiful soul. Some might just be saying that now in retrospect that she's dead, but still, yeah.

Venus square Mars...

OH EM GEE:

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You have a strong desire nature and use all kinds of clever tactics to get what you want. People may accuse you of using others to gratify your desires by taking advantage of their feelings for you, especially when you don't have similar feelings for them.

exactly what I was talking about before. The second paragraph is also true to an extent. Although these are pretty deep factors of my personality, you know, things that someone would have to dig VERY deep down find any trace of, although I'm aware of it, very much at times. Except, it's more of something that affects my family, in re to the third paragraph. You know, I'm more of a harmonious person, but these are traits that I have that might seem latent. Yeah, you probably get it.

Venus square Jupiter...

The parts that stuck out the most to me in their accuracy were the first paragraph and the sleep thing. Oh, how I love sleep .

Thanks again lalalinda.

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posted April 26, 2005 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Sweetie,
How are you? keeping up with your school work?
Right now we're doing your Pluto in Scorpio and in the 6th house.


Pluto in Scorpio
(Julia and Derek Parker)

Pluto's entry into Scorpio had its effects on those born with Neptune in Scorpio (1956-1970/1). They made their presence felt in increasingly powerful positions.

But perhaps the most Scorpionic of all effects was the appearance of AIDS - a sexually transmitted disease; and Pluto's influence is very much a part of our sexuality. Remember that Pluto is at home in Scorpio, so its strength is increased. It is to be hoped that the situation will be controlled and Pluto's influence, having brought the scourge to the surface, will later be curative. Here, lessons are learned the hard way. The light on the horizon was from the influence of the other generation planet, Neptune, working from Capricorn. Uranus was also in that sign, and Saturn transitting Capricorn between 1988 and the end of 1990 was also a curative influence. We must not forget the financial implications of Pluto from its own sign. The desire to make more money and the even-increasing implications of the expansion of world markets are very much part of this physically tiny but important planet (Pluto).

In the birth chart, this position adds an intensity and sense of purpose; but if Pluto receives negative aspects from the Sun, Moon or ruling planet there may be psychological problems. These must be resolved if the individual is fully to develop potential and make positive use of increased emotion and intuition. There will be a much stronger source of emotional and physical energy if Scorpio is also the Sun, Moon or Ascendant sign; and this must be channeled positive. Make sure your subject's parents are aware of this, since using it through competitive sport and in reaction to very demanding challenges is essential. The earlier parents start to encourage it in their offspring, the better, or otherwise they could possibly have a difficult, restless and unfulfilled child on their hands. If Pluto is conjunct the Midheaven and / or placed in the tenth house, the expression of power, and identification with everything that is strong and powerful, will be present.


Pluto/6th house
(Donna Cunningham)

This often indicates individuals who are obsessed with work to the point of being workaholics. These people serve, yet resent being subservient; work compulsively, yet resent having to work so hard. Such people believe jobs are their own personal avlues to power, and so manoeuvre to be the power behind the throne by becoming indispensable. Since this will to power is easily recognised by both the boss and co-workers, these individuals are mistrusted. Power struggles ensue, as well as resentments and vendettas with coworkers; and these people may leave one job after another on bad terms.

The sixth house is another health house, so Pluto there natally (or by transit) indicates the possibility of illness coming about through stored-up resentment. Illness may be the only means available to stop the work compulsion. When work has failed as a way to power, the sixth house Plutonian may control others through illness, becoming the invalid who makes everyone dance. Symbiosis is assured: someone has to take care of them. Most people can't abandon an invalid - they'd feel guilty!

Used constructively, this placement indicates people who continually transform themselves through work, recognising that work and work relationships are a microcosm of all of life. Any situation arising on the job can be used as a means to contront and deal with the parts of themselves that need changing. Work can become powerful in transforming life; and these people can also become powerful transformers through their work. This is another signature of healing ability, sometimes developed due to the stimulus of an illness.

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posted May 14, 2005 11:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi lalalinda. I'm fine, school's the same.

I've never paid a lot of attention to my Pluto since I didn't really think it mattered very much since that was something that I shared with my entire generation. I realize that the house it's in is very important, but I tend to overlook it there as well- so thanks for focusing on it now, I haven't learned a lot about this position.

Pluto does square my ruling planet, Mercury. And I have had a psychological problem- anxiety. From the time that I was eight until I was around twelve I was obssessed and terrified by the idea of death and dying, and I had to go on Paxil when I was twelve because it was causing me to become very depressed- I'd developed generalized anxiety disorder. I'm all right now, but I wonder if that aspect could have contributed to those problems.

I'm really not obssessed with working- the opposite, really, I'm incredibly lazy and procrastinate with everything that I do. But besides that, the second line- "These people serve, yet resent being subservient; work compulsively, yet resent having to work so hard"- is very true.

The thing is, I've always been able to get by very easily when I manage to escape work- and I realize that if I were to put all of my concentration into working and actually doing work, I would probably be able to become something much more above average, which is where I think the "Work can become powerful in transforming life; and these people can also become powerful transformers through their work" comes in.

Thanks again for your help .

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posted June 06, 2005 10:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey LL. Have some bad news- I just found out this weekened that I was born on 12:50 AM, not PM. I mean, it's good news for me because I've been reading up on my new house positions and I felt an amazement at their accuracy that I didn't really necessarily feel with the other set- but anyway, sorry about anything that you had to type up about my house positions in those ^ posts, but hey, good learning anyway.

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posted June 14, 2005 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That changes things quite a bit
I will rectify.

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