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lalalinda
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posted January 16, 2005 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
welcome eliza

Except for Chiron (5th), all of your planets fall in houses 8-12. You are another one here with a Venus/Mars conjunction, interesting you also have a stellium with Moon, Mercury, and Pluto.

For right now lets start with your Capricorn Ascendant

(Julia and Derek Parker)

The most crucial problem can be wavering self-confidence: one moment these people think they can rule the world and the next they doubt their ability to write a note for the milkman. This can mean they are very confident in some spheres and very nervous in others: they may be quite sure they can cope with their job, but have no confidence that they can sustain a close personal relationship - or even establish one. This often arises from an inability to see themselves clearly, so they underestimate their own achievements. They must take themselves at others' valuations, accepting compliments gracefully and believing them.

Perhaps surprisingly, once these people settle into a permanent relationship they become very caring, very sensitive to their partners' needs; and often their emotions flow more positively. These traits will be most noticeable to the partner; and even close friends may not discern them. A tendency to worry may increase with their natural concern for their partners.

Problems may cause digestive difficulties which in extreme circumstances will lead to ulcers or skin disorders. To avoid this build-up of internal tension, they need a routine which allows time for leisure activities, relaxation and some physical exercise. They can be too easily depressed, even by minor setbacks; pessimism can be a problem. Physical activity can be a great antidote, and music can help to calm and cheer them; but above all they should use their inherent rational qualities. They should also make room in their lives for the spiritual as well as the material.

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posted January 17, 2005 01:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really? I thought I had an Aquarius ascendant
but maybe Im wrong.That does sound like me a little though Im not sure. I should read through it again.Thank you though for starting it

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posted January 17, 2005 01:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh also I thought I had scorpio in saturn too
does that count in the stellium or is it a different house?

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posted January 17, 2005 01:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe I did my chart all wrong but this is what I have...is the one you did different?

girl
born on October 15 1985
in Bristol,CT at 2:50pm
Planetary Positions Degrees
Sun Libra 22.22
Moon Scorpio 14.49
Mercury Scorpio 7.41
Venus Virgo 29.04
Mars Virgo 22.34
Jupiter Aquarius 7.23
Saturn Scorpio 26.20
Uranus Sagittarius 15.10
Neptune Capricorn 1.10
Pluto Scorpio 4.11
House Positions(Placidus)
Ascendant Aquarius 3.10
2nd House Pisces 20.57
3rd House Aries 29.12
Imum Coeli Taurus 26.07
5th House Gemini 17.36
6th House Cancer 8.16
Descendant Leo 3.10
8th House Virgo 20.57
9th House Libra 29.12
Medium Coeli Scorpio 26.07
11th House Sagittarius 17.36
12th House Capricorn 8.16

I checked it over a few times and it keeps coming up the same. Let me know if it looks about the same as yours?

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posted January 17, 2005 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi eliza,

Sorry darlin, I calculated your chart for Bristol England, ok we'll revise it and start over

I still didn't find a bristol Ct I found one in NY and Rhode Island but no Ct. thats ok I'll use your calculations. Interesting to note your 3 degree Aquarius Ascendant is sitting on my progressed Ascendant. I'd say your in the right place

(Howard Sasportas)

Ironically, those with Aquarius on the Ascendant (the point of self-awareness) gain a clearer sense of their own unique and particular identiy through standing back and taking an objective and impersonal look at life. Viewing events, people, circumstances and even themselves from a detached perspective affords them a more global or complete picture of the plan of things. A greater awareness of 'the group' and a heightened sense of the social context in which they function supersedes a purely subjective or personal frame of reference.

Aquarius is co-ruled by Saturn and Uranus. The Saturn side of Aquarius rising may look to a group to enhance its own sense of identity or importance. Along with this comes concerns about belonging to the 'right' group, doing the 'right' things, etc.. The more Uranian side of Aquarius on the Ascendant, however, may feel it is inappropriate to conduct the life solely for augmenting or bolstering personal security or power. Something larger than the individual self needs to be considered.

On this basis, more than any other Ascending sign, Aquarius rising can act in accordance with what he or she feels will support or improve the functioning of the greater whole. The sign of Aquarius has been associated with the myth of Prometheus. Believing that humankind could be better off than it already was, Prometheus stole fire from the gods to give to man. Similarly, Aquarius rising can best meet life with a sense of hope and vision of a new future: a belief that with the application of the right theories or concepts, circumstances could be improved. But just as Prometheus is punished by the existing powers for his defiant deed, some modern-day Prometheans may be condemned, mistreated or even imprisoned for theories or actions which transgress or threaten the established authority. And yet, it is the nature of life that old structures and paradigms, when outlived or past their usefulness, give way to fresh patterns and ideas. Aquarius rising is often in tune with the latest trends and new ideas in the atmosphere.

Usually the ideals associated with Aquarius rising are egalitarian - brotherhood, sisterhood, solidarity, fairness, equality and justice for all. For these ends, Aquarius on the Ascendant may assume the cause of segments of society which the existing system condemns or oppresses. Sometimes the vision of this Ascendant is too idealistic and underestimates the force of the more greedy, territorial and acquisitive nature of people. Similarly, those with this Rising sign are often ill-at-ease with irrational and self-centred emotions in themselves or others which conflict with their noble and utopian theories.

Leo on the Descendant is the shadow side of Aquarius on the Ascendant. Beneath the cool objectivity and the egalitarian ideals of Aquarius may lurk the Leo urges for personal power and recognition. Those with Aquarius rising, with all their love of equality and freedom, are often attracted to prestigious and influential people. There may even be a tendency to use others as a means of gaining strength, power and importance (Leo on the 7th). For all their lack of self-centredness, they may sulk for hours if somebody makes them look silly at a party. (The other person will probably get the cold shoulder for days.) Leo feels passionately and intensely and uses its own sense of self, honour and prestige as a primary frame of reference. To avoid some form of Leo backlash, either from within or from without, Aquarius rising is well-advised not to overly denigrate the Leo approach to life. With Aquarius, there is the danger that the needs of the efficiently functioning system will take precedence over the uniqueness, humanness and creative individuality of those who must fit into it. Taken to extremes, the Aquarian dream could too easily turn into an Orwellian nightmare.

Physically, Aquarius rising tends toward a broad build with clear, refined, light and open features. Often there is an electric or magnetic charge in the aura.

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posted January 18, 2005 11:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah that sounds a lot more like me.

(On this basis, more than any other Ascending sign, Aquarius rising can act in accordance with what he or she feels will support or improve the functioning of the greater whole.)
-I really feel like that
(Usually the ideals associated with Aquarius rising are egalitarian - brotherhood, sisterhood, solidarity, fairness, equality and justice for all)
-and that
(Often there is an electric or magnetic charge in the aura.)
-Ive been told that I have a strong aura by a lot of people in my lifetime...Im trying to learn how to see it.
I was wondering what my venus/mars conjunction would mean...
if you cant find Bristol,CT and you need to know the houses my signs or anything just let me know and I'll post more of what you need to work with.
Thank you for starting it and that really hit the nail on the head so far

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posted March 14, 2005 11:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey I was wondering what you think Chiron in retrograde means.Its the only retrograde in my chart so Im interested in what that means.
Any insight would be very appreciated!
Thank you , Eliza

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lalalinda
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posted April 26, 2005 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi eliza,

were on the 8th house planets you have 3 Sun Venus and Mars


sun/8th
(Howard Sasportas)

On a deep level, we all yearn to reconnect with something greater than the self. Although often oblivious to such underlying motivations, those with the Sun in the 8th seek to expand themselves and transcend their personal limitations and separateness through some form of union and interchange with other people. This can be achieved in a variety of ways and on many different levels. For instance, some people with the Sun here augment their identity, value and worth by drawing to them other people's money and possessions. At worst, this is premeditated and conniving (not unlike a formal invitation to a midnight feast at Count Dracula's castle). More often, however, it just happens that other people naturall want to help those with an 8th house Sun - shower them with gifts, leave them inheritances, bestow grants upon them, etc.. Frequently the urge to invest their energies in joint or collective enterprises brings them into the realm of business, banking, insurance and anything to do with other people's money and resources.

But money and possessions are just the surface level of what is shared and exchanged between people. Feelings and emotions circulating in the invisible undercurrents which connect one person to another also demand the attention of the 8th hosue Sun. Although these may appear to be the brainchild of a sadistic god who has watched too many soap operas on television, relationships which expose hidden passions and trigger the primal emotions of unresolved childhood complexes also serve the solar processes of growth and unfoldment. Releasing psychic content from the bondage and repetition of patterns established years before in the nursery, intimate partnerships act as catalysts for breakdown, regeneration and change. For those with the Sun in the 8th, relationships are not smoething to dip a toe into for refreshment every once in a while; they must learn to swim in these waters. Some may try to avoid real intimacy altogether, but in doing so they cheat themselves of transformation.

The 8th house Sun usually bestows an interest in that which is hidden, occult, or mysterious in life. Sometimes there is a fascination or preoccupation with death or any subject which society considers taboo.


Venus/8th
(Howard Sasportas)

Venus in the 8th 'cares about' what happens between people, and wants to ensure that anything which is shared or exchanged is beautiful, appropriate, beneficial and valuable. It favours buinsess partnerships and the accruing of money and possessions through marriage or inheritance.

In the bedroom, Aphrodite's magic girdle transforms into a provocative corselet (possibly black leather if Venus is aspected to Pluto). Her seductive charms find no better mode of expression than in the intimate whispers and caresses of love. Venus in the 8th people have a way of receiving and responding to others which relaxes them, making partners feel secure enough to loosen inhibitions and restraints. In this sense, those with Venus in Scorpio's natural house, whether innocently or not, entice others to give in to them. Hearts open, secrets are exposed, and bank accounts are put in their name.

There is also a love for that which is mysterious or esoteric, and a desire to probe for anything hidden or subtle as if what is found on that level will make them more complete. (Seance parlours are probably filled with people with Venus in the 8th contacting their dear and departed, wherever they may be.)


Mars/8th house
(Howard Sasportas)

Those with Mars in the 8th come alive in joint enterprises where they can give and receive all they can. Usually there is a shade more subtlety to Mars in this house than in his other domains, although the clumsy Greek Ares may evince his characteristic impetuosity by rushing into hastily conceived financial deals. Some people with Mars in the 8th will gain a sense of honour and virtue by standing up for their deeply felt beliefs, and will try to challenge and convert others who don't share the same values. Others with Mars in the 8th find the prospect of appropriateing the values and possessions of another person much more rewarding and enticing. A difficultly aspected Mars could indicate fights with the marriage partner over joint resources, battles over legacies and inheritances, trouble with a belligerent tax-inspector, and conflicts with get-rich-quick business partners, so some degree of caution is advised in these areas.

But it is in the most intimate arena of the bedroom that an 8th house Mars most clearly exposes itself. These people's passions are strong, but sexual expression may be more than just a means of relieving built-up physical tension: for many, sex is a contest and Mars is determined to be the victor. Again, we can understand these people better if we realize that in acting this way they are attempting to affirm and define their identity and power. The principle of the Sun distinguishes us from others, but we need Mars to prove our point; and whether, in the 8th house, the point is given or taken, Mars here likes to be in charge. With a little bit of thought, it's not hard to appreciate that there is more to a person's sexual taste than meets the eye; and fortunately or unfortunately for some, Mars in the 8th people may take out their aggression in the bedroom. Or due to guilt and ambivalence, Mars in the 8th people may resorrt to its second-favourite battle-cry: 'They made me do it', blaming others for forcing them into situations they somehow help to contrive.

By meeting them in others or through their own selves, those with Mars in the 8th often discover and hav e to grapple with the darker emotions of blind lust, envy, greed, jealousy, etc.. The need or ability to transmute these seething feelings into a more constructive expression depends, to a large degree, on the aspects to Mars. If Mars is difficultly aspected by the outer planets, it is usually most pressing that the raw, primordial side of Mars be rechannelled in other ways.

Sometimes there is a burning interest in the esoteric or the occult. Caution should be taken when exploring or experimenting in anything mediumistic in nature: there is the danger of projecting their own anger and aggression onto something 'out there' and then experiencing the disowned quantity as turning around and pursuing them. Although Mars can hardly be defined as covert, in the 8th he does have a kind of detective-like ability to probe subtly and persistently into what is hidden or secret. If those with this placement sense something wrong or askew in a relevant person or situation, they are not easily able to let it rest.

The Scorpio Dylan Thomas wrote, 'Do not go gentle into that good night'. In deaths and transformations of a physical or psychological nature, Mars in the 8th will usually follow that advice.

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posted October 07, 2005 10:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for this information lala.It all describes me pretty well...even though there is some stuff i wish wasnt true...

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