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Peri
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posted May 21, 2007 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aspects to Chiron:

In the average chart, unless your client is actively involved in the psychic, holistic or healing arts, you are going to be looking at Chiron as an indicator of "early childhood issues" which affect and in some ways determine their physical and psychological well-being as adults. Chiron can be a bit of a "blind spot" with some folks and thus much be approached with tact and compassion. These are often sore-spots, and there can be outright denial or rejection if you get too close to the truth. The upside to Chiron is that when the placement is in relatively good condition, there can be something of a "blessing in disguise" energy related to Chiron. One could lose a job for example, then discover that they are in the perfect place to start a new business. Or, they could lose an abusive partner days before meeting someone they might have rejected previously.
Healing ability: A prominent Chiron can indicate healing ability. In general, the number of aspects between Chiron and the other planets indicates the degree of healing potential in a client, but you will find it is almost inevitable when Chiron is close to an axis-point, especially the Ascendant or Midheaven. Look at Neptune, Uranus and the sign where Chiron is placed to determine the over-all pattern of the client's healing skills.

Chiron - Sun: In positive aspects, Sun and Chiron combine to create harmony, empathy and understanding in the native. A positive self-image can be enhanced by beneficial contacts. The harsher contacts can bring out rage, anger and frustration stemming from a lack of self-worth or a blow to the ego. It can be hard for the individual to express their inner needs, ideas, and emotions when Chiron is adversely affected in transits. Positive Sun-Chiron contacts in the natal chart can indicate profound depth and a good self-esteem build at an early age. If the natal Chiron has stressful aspects, they can find that the years before mid-life are difficult, that they have to struggle to assert themselves. Their can be frustration and resentment related to their position in life.

Chiron - Moon: In the natal chart, a positive aspect can indicate a person who is extremely sensitive, empathic and mystical. "Boundary problems" are a big-time problem here, regardless of the supportive or challenging aspects. The degree to which this is a problem will be indicated by the aspects. Anyone with a Chiron-Moon placement should learn grounding principles and psychic protection. There can be indications of rejection by the mother if the aspects are challenging.

Chiron - Mercury: This placement, when positively supported, can indicate a highly developed mind, a sharp intuition, perhaps clairvoyant ability. Unless there are also positive aspects to Neptune or the Moon, however, this may not translate to healing ability. This is the realm of the mind rather than the heart. The native can tend to be a bit of a "know it all", and the degree to which this is a benefit or a drawback may be indicated by the number of supportive versus challenging aspects.

Chiron - Venus: This native approaches sexual and sensual experiences with a childlike charm and innocence that makes them incredibly attractive. When the two planets are in harmonious contact, a client might be having sexual or creative experiences which are out of the normal realms of social tastes, but are absolutely vital to their own personal development. There can be problems with sexual or gender identity when the two planets are not in harmony, and a challenging aspect can indicate physical, emotional or sexual abuse in childhood. These people become expert at "reading" the motives of other people, and learn to use their sexuality as a shield of protection.

Chiron - Mars: If you want to discover the true meaning of the old phrase "immovable object meets irresistible force", get in between this native and some goal they have in mind. This placement can be described as the sacred warrior archetype. They are not afraid to pick up the sword in defense of others, and can be drawn to military careers. Energy and intuition come together with a strong drive to take action, to accomplish demonstrable goals. In early life, they may feel that their personal desires were challenged continually, so they fight hard for their desires. They do not count on others to come to their rescue. These people tend to take on leadership positions, but can become dictators if the placement is challenging. If their desire to lead is thwarted, they can become bitter and petty.

Chiron - Jupiter: Chiron together with Jupiter lends itself to creative abilities and these people do tend to have something of a "magic touch", especially those with strong contacts to Leo or the 5th house. Excellent teachers and healers, they are bright, lucky and talented when the two planets aspect in harmony, but when they are stressed, the native is often challenged by their own high expectations for themselves and others. Religious and spiritual intolerance can become a problem as they tend to see their own beliefs as "universal".

Chiron - Saturn: Where were you in 1966? It was the year of Haight-Ashbury, a period of general stress in families and the greater social culture, and Saturn was conjunct Chiron. Chiron and Saturn is a tough placement regardless of the aspect. It often indicates problems with father and authority figures. The native may struggle to find their own place in the world as a result of abandonment or abuse during childhood. Society and culture at large can be viewed with distrust and suspicion. If the aspects are positive, and the native takes the time to learn about their own motivation, they can become powerful authority figures, teachers and leaders themselves. If they are unable to overcome the cynicism of the placement they can fall prey to bitterness and reject social contact altogether.

Chiron - Uranus: Individualistic, opinionated, energetic and constantly changing, these people can find it difficult to find a place within the greater social culture because they are so passionate, yet "otherworldly". Freedom-loving and independent, they find it difficult to settle down. They love to experiment, to innovate, and can be most at home in creative fields involving technology.

Chiron - Neptune: A stressful Neptune-Chiron placement can indicate that the native is, frankly, not living in the real world. They can often be quite aware that they are "professional daydreamers", and a career in the arts, television or film can be a positive expression of a good contact between these two planets. However, they can indicate self-deception and delusional thinking, drug and sexual abuse when they are strongly challenged. It is Neptune that will tell the astrologer where this client's "idealism", their dreams and desires, are strongest.

Chiron - Pluto: The native blessed (or cursed) with this combination is intense, dramatic, profound and deep. There can be deep and hidden scars from childhood that either strengthen or break the individual later in life. Stressed, there can be huge struggles throughout life, and there is a virtual certainty of some form of childhood abandonment or rejection. If you have this placement, there are two keys to healing: Know yourself, and find a way to turn your own pain into a tool to heal others.

Chiron - Nodes: This placement is strongly indicative of an important karmic lifetime. The native may exhibit strong interest in spiritual or holistic healing, and they are often powerful teachers and leaders. They may struggle in early life to achieve social acceptance.

Chiron - MC: Chiron placed in this position is a strong indicator that the native's career will have some kind of Chironic flavor. They can end up as teachers, healers or leaders. At the same time, they remain perpetual students (which may be one key to their frequent successes in such fields). The early career is mainly set back by feelings of low self-worth, which they overcome so they are stronger examples of the lessons they will teach.

© 2002 by Brandi Jasmine
http://www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat02.html

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sameesadiq
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posted May 22, 2007 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sameesadiq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Good topic. How about synastry aspects?

We have my moon square her chiron in synastry.

Also her sun is sextile my chiron.

Moreover,we have her, neptune sextile her pluto-North node-mars conjunction all making quincunx with my chiron at focal point completing a tight yod aspect.

Information on synastry aspects is requested, if possible.

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posted February 27, 2008 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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http://ccrsdodona.org/m_dilemma/1992/vir/chiron.html

http://ccrsdodona.org/m_dilemma/1992/sag/chiron.html

http://ccrsdodona.org/m_dilemma/1993/pis/chiron.html

http://ccrsdodona.org/m_dilemma/1993/gem/chiron.html

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Randall
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posted April 21, 2008 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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myS-elf13
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posted May 06, 2008 01:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am very new to understanding astrology/natal charts.

i am looking at a friend's chart and see that her chiron is in pisces which is her 10th house. on the link peri listed it describes pisces as the 12th house. i understand pisces is the last in line of the zodiac before we start with aries again. chiron is in pisces at 13 degrees 33'57"r

do i read the definition for chiron is pisces or what house it sits in.

also, looking at her chart i see a where chiron is in realation to certain planets i.e square to venus, sextile pluto. i am not sure if this is what i am looking for in the descriptions. also, how can i tell the degree difference between chiron and the other planets

also, please guide as to some books that can assist me in astology. there are so many, i am unsure as to where i should begin.

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posted May 11, 2008 08:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what about chiron in pisces. it sits at 13 degree33'57"r. is r retrograde and how should i interpret that?

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posted May 11, 2008 10:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
S-elf,

If you want to read up on Chiron, here are some book recommendations: Chiron and the Healing Moment by Melanie Reinhart,and Chiron by Barbara Hand Clow. This will help you understand more about Chiron and its aspects.

Booking,

Tim

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posted September 08, 2008 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 10, 2008 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, this is interesting.

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posted September 11, 2008 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted May 31, 2009 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all the very helpful and interesting information on Chiron, everyone.

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posted September 08, 2009 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lian3688     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need to ask this. Here in my place it is nearly impossible for me to buy astrology book in English and i don't think i want to read the Chinese version. So please help me guys:

If my chiron is in aries and i only find that i have aries in my MC, does it mean that my chiron is in MC? Or perhaps, not having chiron at all?

If it is the case, is it possible that a person has more than one chiron position?

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posted November 06, 2009 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow i can really realate to most of these ezpecially the pluto chiron one as well as neptune uranus and mars and venus one as well. i have way to many chiron aspects lol

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posted November 06, 2009 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lian, do you know the degrees? your MC is just ONE point in aries, and chiron another. unless they are on the same degree? or close, then chiron is on your MC..

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posted February 04, 2010 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron conjunct moon, opposite rising, mercury and uranus here.

I do have "boundary issues" - the issues being that I don't notice boundaries and feel at home everywhere... EVERYWHERE! I'm much of a know-it-all (my mother used to call me that all the time and even now I'm still often matter-of-factly... ) The Chiron-Uranus bit applies to me completely, but I can't help thinking if I'm not already those things because I have Uranus in the 1st house and in a (very wide) orb, conjunct my rising... and Aquarius 3rd house. And the fact that Sagittarius mercury is renowned to be pretty opinionated already.

Not sure about those connotations about being psychic. I'm a bit too rational to believe in psychic abilities. I blame my encounters on the power of the unconscious mind...

Never thought this about Chiron, anyway. It's interesting. I should really look more into Chiron...

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posted April 04, 2010 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron 18 Taurus in H10
quincunx 3rd house Mars, 1 deg
quincunx 3rd house Saturn, 3 deg
sextile 12th houe NN, 2 deg

Interested in any comment on the above quincunx to Chiron? It's a difficult aspect for me to get a handle on. Mars and Saturn are conj in Libra 2 deg orb.

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posted October 29, 2010 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Positive Sun-Chiron contacts in the natal chart can indicate profound depth and a good self-esteem build at an early age. If the natal Chiron has stressful aspects, they can find that the years before mid-life are difficult, that they have to struggle to assert themselves. Their can be frustration and resentment related to their position in life.

I've experienced both, at different times in my life. I had very high self-esteem when I was small, lost it - but retained enough to not need to lash out at others, and to know that I didn't deserve to be treated badly, even as I questioned what was wrong with me, if that makes any sense.

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posted November 15, 2010 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for milly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think my chiron/uranus are in square with my venus/?

chiron 27 aries 2 house
venus 3 leo 6 house
uranus 28 lib 8 house...

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